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Post by guru on Mar 14, 2011 8:17:02 GMT -5
If it's Hoyas vs USC who does Snoop Dogg root for?
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Post by superan on Mar 14, 2011 8:44:17 GMT -5
Definitely Hollywood
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GUJook97
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Post by GUJook97 on Mar 14, 2011 9:06:00 GMT -5
I emailed Doyel after Chris was cleared to practice and play, called him out for accusing us of being dishonest, and asked what kind of apology he was going to give; no response yet, and sounds like he is hoping against hope Chris won't play or won't be effective so he can claim he was right. If Chris can do the job, we will hear nothing else from this bozo. I dont have a problem that CBS gives Doyel that venue, but its offensive that they pass it off as legitimate commentary about the tourney. He's just spouting off garbage that he spent 5 seconds thinking about, but I have to go to CBS' front page about our region and see, "Hoyas better be Wright..." CBS should be ashamed of that nonsense, and I am not going to go that site for the tourney. At least ESPN separates their bs commentators from everything else.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Mar 14, 2011 9:29:12 GMT -5
I emailed Doyel after Chris was cleared to practice and play, called him out for accusing us of being dishonest, and asked what kind of apology he was going to give; no response yet, and sounds like he is hoping against hope Chris won't play or won't be effective so he can claim he was right. If Chris can do the job, we will hear nothing else from this bozo. I dont have a problem that CBS gives Doyel that venue, but its offensive that they pass it off as legitimate commentary about the tourney. He's just spouting off garbage that he spent 5 seconds thinking about, but I have to go to CBS' front page about our region and see, "Hoyas better be Wright..." CBS should be ashamed of that nonsense, and I am not going to go that site for the tourney. At least ESPN separates their bs commentators from everything else. Doyel is such a jacka$$. His profile picture is sufficient basis to dismiss anything he writes because he is trying to look hard and instead just looks like a nerdy poser who shaved his head because he was going bald. As for his actual article, what's the point of making baseless accusations about GU's representing that CW is going to be healthy for the tournament? It is solely a device to drum up page views. If he wants to go down the Skip Bayless/Doug Gottdweeb route, that's his choice but it essentially jettisons any expectation that readers take his analysis seriously and view him as a legitimate journalist. Oh well, guess that is reality in the 24/7 constant news cycle world. It still doesn't make his article any less asinine. I really, really, really hope that the fellas are noticing how quickly people are dismissing them. We need everyone motivated and focused and I think this could serve as a good foundation for JTII to fire up the guys.
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Post by GUJook97 on Mar 14, 2011 9:39:23 GMT -5
Hasnt been mentioned yet, but FWIW, Pomeroy ranks St Peters as the 20th best defensive team in the country. They play a very methodical style. Would love to see them "Ohio" Purdue on Friday night....
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Post by Boz on Mar 14, 2011 9:48:32 GMT -5
You know, I probably wouldn't mind Doyel putting this opinion/skepticism out there IF.....
....when Chris does play on Friday and if Georgetown plays well with him on the floor, he would issue a follow-up column saying he was wrong.
What do you think the chances are of that happening though? I'd say about zero.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 14, 2011 9:57:58 GMT -5
You know, I probably wouldn't mind Doyel putting this opinion/skepticism out there IF..... .... when Chris does play on Friday and if Georgetown plays well with him on the floor, he would issue a follow-up column saying he was wrong. What do you think the chances are of that happening though? I'd say about zero. I agree entirely - and we know this issue will disappear as soon as Chris shows he is ready to play.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Mar 14, 2011 10:19:02 GMT -5
it is pretty funny that the a significant reason for him being so skeptical is because Boehiem was a slimy lying scum bag last year.
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Post by theexorcist on Mar 14, 2011 10:28:18 GMT -5
You know, I probably wouldn't mind Doyel putting this opinion/skepticism out there IF..... .... when Chris does play on Friday and if Georgetown plays well with him on the floor, he would issue a follow-up column saying he was wrong. What do you think the chances are of that happening though? I'd say about zero. 1. Writers don't choose their headlines. The issue here seems to be a very confrontational one. 2. Doyel has a point. I guarantee you that Georgetown's statement on Wright was timed to the selection show being on Sunday (on 980 yesterday, JT Jr asked the Big East Commissioner how Wright's status played into the committee's decision). For a subjective process, lots of whispers have way too much of an effect on things. Wright, unfortunately, becomes Exhibit A for the process. Doyel seems pretty reasoned - a team did this last year, Wright hasn't played since he was injured, we know nothing about his status - but it seems more to me a railing against the NCAA seeding process, where all teams have an incentive to act like the Black Knight from Monty Python. He seems a little prickly, but columnists are supposed to be that way - and it's more defensible since he said he'll be there, since it sounds like "I want to watch some good games, and if Wright's not there, Georgetown's not the same and I will be annoyed."
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 14, 2011 11:51:06 GMT -5
Except that in his blog earlier in the week, Doyel essentially said that there was no possible way he could come back from a broken wrist in 3 weeks, and that Georgetown was being intentionally deceptive to get a better seed. That was not just speculative, it was accusatory - and this article sounds more like an attempt to justify his own earlier insistence.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 14, 2011 11:54:32 GMT -5
Thank goodness the new TV deal will have all 4 games on in their entirety friday night; otherwise those of us condemned to live in upstate NY would be forced to endure the Syracuse game, and at best might be able to go to a sports bar and beg to have the 19 inch black-and-white screen in the back corner tuned to the Hoya game!!
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Post by Filo on Mar 14, 2011 11:59:30 GMT -5
At least this 6 seed should quiet any of the occasional "woe-is-me, everyone is against Georgetown" posts. The committee seems to have rewarded the team for the very tough schedule and disregarded the late-season swoon (assuming they factored in CW's injury). completely disagree if they had disregarded the late season swoon we'd be at least a 4 seed. A 6 seed means that they don't believe chris will be back or at least won't be 100%. Our Resume is better than every single 5 seed with exception of WV. You can completely disagree, but you would be wrong -- We got feedback on the status of [players who are injured],” said Ohio State athletic director and committee chairman Gene Smith as reported in the Washington Post. “We got feedback that they would be able to play. That was important to us to know. You still have to evaluate their performance without those kids.”. I agree that the 5-seeds are pretty weak and GU compared favorably overall if you want to look at RPI, SOS, etc. But, sorry, the committee, did a lot of discounting of the late struggles in awarding the 6-seed. Look at 'Nova with a 9-seed if you want to see the full impact of a late-season swoon.
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Post by hbhoya on Mar 14, 2011 12:29:14 GMT -5
I'm a USC season ticket holder but a loyal Hoya. I see the Hoyas beating the Trojans (assuming they get by VCU which is not a gimme).
SC has trouble against the zone and against teams with multiple bigs. They play great D but do not get out in transition fast. They like to play slow and in the half court. Only one player can create his own shot: Fontan. If the Hoyas body up against Vucevic and keep Stephenson off the offensive glass, it won't be that close. Donte Smith is the only shooter with consistency but can be bothered by quick guards. They play 7 deep meaning they wear down at end of games.
But make no mistake: O'Neill may be volatile off the court but he can flat out coach and he is rarely outcoached.
If I had to make a prediction: Hoyas by 8 against USC.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Mar 14, 2011 12:52:50 GMT -5
completely disagree if they had disregarded the late season swoon we'd be at least a 4 seed. A 6 seed means that they don't believe chris will be back or at least won't be 100%. Our Resume is better than every single 5 seed with exception of WV. You can completely disagree, but you would be wrong -- We got feedback on the status of [players who are injured],” said Ohio State athletic director and committee chairman Gene Smith as reported in the Washington Post. “We got feedback that they would be able to play. That was important to us to know. You still have to evaluate their performance without those kids.”. I agree that the 5-seeds are pretty weak and GU compared favorably overall if you want to look at RPI, SOS, etc. But, sorry, the committee, did a lot of discounting of the late struggles in awarding the 6-seed. Look at 'Nova with a 9-seed if you want to see the full impact of a late-season swoon. In my mind if you we're so inclined you could actually discount our struggles with chris gone if you're assuming he's back. If you totally discount those games then you're seeding us where we were before chris went down which was around a 3 seed on the verge of a 2. I don't expect the committee to completely discount those games, but if they discounted those games or gave us the benefit of the doubt we'd have been a 4/5 not a 6 in my mind. Giving us anything lower than a 7 would've completely unjustifiable. So yes they didn't hammer us as hard as they could have but I don't think they did us any favors.
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Post by heatpump05 on Mar 14, 2011 12:57:24 GMT -5
For all the talk about how we've shown "we can beat anybody and lose to anybody," that may be technically true, but this is not last year's team. This year's squad doesn't have any losses to a non-tourney team, and it will be pretty shocking if they didn't learn from the Ohio debacle.
Our first game will be a battle, obviously, but one that we should win. Purdue on Sunday would essentially be a home game for them in Chicago, which is a tough break for us. Yes, I'm looking ahead for a second. No, I don't play for the team, so there's really very little danger that we'll come out flat on Friday as a result of my pointing out that West Lafayette, Indiana, is a two-hour drive to Chicago.
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Post by Boz on Mar 14, 2011 13:07:43 GMT -5
Is Purdue really all that popular in Chicago?
Yeah, it's only a couple hundred miles away (150 maybe?), so that's convenient for their players, but I'd be kind of surprised if they have a real significant home court advantage in that arena.
Not like, say, Duke and UNC playing in Charlotte.
EDIT: F#@$#$@#$!!! You tricked me!!! Thinking about anything other than Friday's game.....stupid!! Forgive me basketball gods. It will not happen again!
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Post by guru on Mar 14, 2011 13:08:31 GMT -5
You can completely disagree, but you would be wrong -- We got feedback on the status of [players who are injured],” said Ohio State athletic director and committee chairman Gene Smith as reported in the Washington Post. “We got feedback that they would be able to play. That was important to us to know. You still have to evaluate their performance without those kids.”. I agree that the 5-seeds are pretty weak and GU compared favorably overall if you want to look at RPI, SOS, etc. But, sorry, the committee, did a lot of discounting of the late struggles in awarding the 6-seed. Look at 'Nova with a 9-seed if you want to see the full impact of a late-season swoon. In my mind if you we're so inclined you could actually discount our struggles with chris gone if you're assuming he's back. If you totally discount those games then you're seeding us where we were before chris went down which was around a 3 seed on the verge of a 2. I don't expect the committee to completely discount those games, but if they discounted those games or gave us the benefit of the doubt we'd have been a 4/5 not a 6 in my mind. Giving us anything lower than a 7 would've completely unjustifiable. So yes they didn't hammer us as hard as they could have but I don't think they did us any favors. Well, I don't know if it counts as "favors," but getting to play against a team who will have played 48 hours before in a different city - and as a result getting scheduled as late in the round of 64 as possible while our senior point guard gets extra time to recover from a broken hand: Those 2 things should benefit us. Honestly, the Hoya team that played from Feb. 23 onward was probably a bubble NCAA team at best. Until that point we were probably a 4 seed at worst. So all told, we should be very, very happy with a six seed given the way this team performed over the past three weeks. We were 1-5 in our final 6 games - and we had a healthy Chris Wright for 3 of those games (actually a bit more than 2.5 games). When we take the court on Friday night, we will be 28 days removed from our last win. That's fairly amazing/depressing That said, I think there are some pieces in place for us to make a successful run with our draw. I don't want to jinx us so I won't say more than that. But any complaints about our seeding or matchups are a real stretch at this point.
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Post by FormerHoya on Mar 14, 2011 13:08:56 GMT -5
West Lafayette, Indiana, is a two-hour drive to Chicago. Yes. But it seems so, so much longer.
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Post by heatpump05 on Mar 14, 2011 13:09:35 GMT -5
Is Purdue really all that popular in Chicago? Yeah, it's only a couple hundred miles away (150 maybe?), so that's convenient for their players, but I'd be kind of surprised if they have a real significant home court advantage in that arena. Not like, say, Duke and UNC playing in Charlotte. Purdue has a big fan base, and they'll make the short drive for a weekend in Chicago.
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Post by heatpump05 on Mar 14, 2011 13:12:45 GMT -5
Is Purdue really all that popular in Chicago?
Yeah, it's only a couple hundred miles away (150 maybe?), so that's convenient for their players, but I'd be kind of surprised if they have a real significant home court advantage in that arena.
Not like, say, Duke and UNC playing in Charlotte. EDIT: F#@$#$@#$!!! You tricked me!!! Thinking about anything other than Friday's game.....stupid!! Forgive me basketball gods. It will not happen again! You'll need to make a sacrifice to the basketball gods. But before anyone gets too upset, looking ahead has always worked well for me personally. Got tix to the '07 Final Four in February.
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