Jack
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Post by Jack on Mar 14, 2011 13:16:07 GMT -5
Is Purdue really all that popular in Chicago? Yeah, it's only a couple hundred miles away (150 maybe?), so that's convenient for their players, but I'd be kind of surprised if they have a real significant home court advantage in that arena. Not like, say, Duke and UNC playing in Charlotte. Purdue has a big fan base, and they'll make the short drive for a weekend in Chicago. Also every Big 10 school has a pretty substantial alumni base in Chicago, it being the only place worth living in flyover country. The one saving grace may be that ND has a large alumni base in that area too, and they are not big fans of Purdue from what I hear - so they would probably rather root for whoever might knock the Boilers out, especially given that it would make their own bracket a bit easier.
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GUJook97
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Post by GUJook97 on Mar 14, 2011 13:18:35 GMT -5
Except that in his blog earlier in the week, Doyel essentially said that there was no possible way he could come back from a broken wrist in 3 weeks, and that Georgetown was being intentionally deceptive to get a better seed. That was not just speculative, it was accusatory - and this article sounds more like an attempt to justify his own earlier insistence. Yeah, I dont see it being like the Syracuse situation at all. Arinze badly messed up his knee, and you could see that he was barely walking. To a man, people thought it was ridiculous for Syracuse to suggest he could play, and they was hardly a peep from him or Syracuse's camp about his practicing or status. Once Chris and III, and oh yeah, MEDICAL DOCTORS cleared Chris to play, it's absurd to still prat on about how we are gaming the system. Sure, Chris might not be 100%, but is there any question he isnt going to try to play? Excuse me if that d-bag wont be significantly entertained because Chris isnt 100%.
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GUJook97
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Post by GUJook97 on Mar 14, 2011 13:18:57 GMT -5
Purdue has a big fan base, and they'll make the short drive for a weekend in Chicago. Also every Big 10 school has a pretty substantial alumni base in Chicago, it being the only place worth living in flyover country. The one saving grace may be that ND has a large alumni base in that area too, and they are not big fans of Purdue from what I hear - so they would probably rather root for whoever might knock the Boilers out, especially given that it would make their own bracket a bit easier. Please stop talking about this. We dont have any game against Purdue.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Mar 14, 2011 13:19:30 GMT -5
I'm a USC season ticket holder but a loyal Hoya. I see the Hoyas beating the Trojans (assuming they get by VCU which is not a gimme). SC has trouble against the zone and against teams with multiple bigs. They play great D but do not get out in transition fast. They like to play slow and in the half court. Only one player can create his own shot: Fontan. If the Hoyas body up against Vucevic and keep Stephenson off the offensive glass, it won't be that close. Donte Smith is the only shooter with consistency but can be bothered by quick guards. They play 7 deep meaning they wear down at end of games. But make no mistake: O'Neill may be volatile off the court but he can flat out coach and he is rarely outcoached. If I had to make a prediction: Hoyas by 8 against USC. Thanks for the scouting report, hb.
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Post by bmartin on Mar 14, 2011 13:44:20 GMT -5
Kevin O'Neill's contribution to the career of JT III: After the 2000 season, Northwestern fired head coach Kevin O'Neill and hired Princeton head coach Bill Carmody.
Princeton named John Thompson III as new head coach. (Top assistant Joe Scott had taken the Air Force job before Carmody left.)
Even deeper degrees of separation to Princeton and Carril through St. Peter's and Marquette:
In 1979, Princeton assistant Bob Dukiet was hired as St. Peter's head coach.
In 1986, Marquette coach Rick Majerus left to be an assistant with the Milwaukee Bucks, and Marquette hired Bob Dukiet from St. Peter's.
Three years later, Marquette fired Dukiet and hired Arizona assistant Kevin O'Neill.
Three years after that, O'Neill left Marquette to take the Tennessee job.
Three years after that, O'Neill had a dispute with UT AD Doug Editedey and left to take the Northwestern job.
Doug D-i-c-k-e-y was the UT AD's name.
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Post by joey0403p on Mar 14, 2011 15:47:40 GMT -5
the USC bigs just scare me though. would love a game 'that isn't that close'
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Post by kchoya on Mar 14, 2011 15:48:04 GMT -5
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Jack
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Post by Jack on Mar 14, 2011 16:11:57 GMT -5
Also every Big 10 school has a pretty substantial alumni base in Chicago, it being the only place worth living in flyover country. The one saving grace may be that ND has a large alumni base in that area too, and they are not big fans of Purdue from what I hear - so they would probably rather root for whoever might knock the Boilers out, especially given that it would make their own bracket a bit easier. Please stop talking about this. We dont have any game against Purdue. Who said anything about playing Purdue? Just noting the likely rooting interests of the other attendees of the session.
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Post by hbhoya on Mar 14, 2011 17:10:35 GMT -5
c2c,
Of course, I'm assuming that cw4 plays and at near full strength. If not, SC has enough to keep us worried.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Mar 14, 2011 18:04:34 GMT -5
wow didn't realize Kevin O'Neil was so well traveled.
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 14, 2011 18:35:15 GMT -5
Just to add a bit to what hbhoya posted, shutting down Vucevic is no easy chore. He led the Pac 10 in double doubles this season. He'll likely get his, but despite that, Stepheson is the real key to the team. He was out early in the year with, as I recall, a broken wrist. I think USC has only lost one game this year in which Stepheson got 10 or more rebounds, and he's a load, so keeping him off the boards will be a major chore for Nate and whomever (JB? Ugh) else must guard him. Also, while USC did have some bad losses early, they were before Fontan became eligible, and also before Stepheson was at full strength. They're better than their record indicates, and you can't take lightly any team that beat Texas and almost beat Kansas.
I'll be rooting for VCU - not because I think they are less of a threat, but because of my antipathy toward USC. If USC beats VCU and then beats us, I will not be a happy guy.
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Post by chep3 on Mar 14, 2011 19:51:44 GMT -5
While we're not going into this game as the underdog per se, we are certainly a trendy pick to get upset. Between that and Chris's return, you have to think the guys are going to be pumped and ready to play. Hopefully that energy translates into a quick start, and some of that confidence that has evaporated comes back.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Mar 14, 2011 20:02:13 GMT -5
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Post by njboumtje on Mar 14, 2011 20:35:08 GMT -5
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Post by richfame on Mar 15, 2011 7:47:11 GMT -5
Im in the nyc viewing area. I get cbs, tnt and tbs do we know if were getting the hoyaz game on one of those channels? I hope they are not going to play the same game on three channels... Check the link in the first post in the Articles thread for a full bracket with TV listings.
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Post by russodj on Mar 15, 2011 7:59:21 GMT -5
They are playing a different game on those three channels and TruTV. The reason they went to the four channel model is so each game will be shown in entirety. The only downside is they said they won't switch between games so if you don't get TruTV you are out of luck for those games. Georgetown plays on TNT Friday night.
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Post by theexorcist on Mar 15, 2011 8:55:39 GMT -5
All I remember about that game was the last few minutes. The GU fans had gone from chants to just noise - you couldn't hear "Let's go Hoyas!" or "De-fense!"; it had just become a cacophony of sound.
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Post by hoyawoodhoopster on Mar 15, 2011 9:21:54 GMT -5
FWIW, Chris Dufresne, The L.A. Times college basketball guru, picked USC to beat VCU, us, and then Purdue in this morning's editions. Don't see that happening. Key is how healthy/effective CW is. Period.
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Post by wrestlemania on Mar 15, 2011 9:51:03 GMT -5
Got this off one of the USC boards -- nice timing for us if it is true:
Sports by Brooks I was told last week by two sources (one at SC), that Kevin O'Neill has been backchanneling w/ OU basketball AD Brandon Martin (former SC asst AD) for some time to position himself to get OU job if it came open. And .. voilĂ , job is now open. That said, I don't think O'Neill will get it. Stay tuned.
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Post by SaxaCD on Mar 15, 2011 10:15:49 GMT -5
yes, but he can coach. I'll take my chances vs VCU. I honestly have absolutely NO preference in that game. If we play like we did pre-Big East and the way we did during our winning streak, we will take care of either one. If we play like we have recently, we won't beat either one, or their JV squads. I think we will take care of business and on to Round 2. I am always an optimist at the beginning of Spring Training and at the start of the NCAA Tourney!
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