kchoya
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Post by kchoya on Feb 11, 2016 12:10:54 GMT -5
Hey michaeldm9, while you're at it drudging up old threads you started, why don't you comment on this one too?
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Post by HometownHoya on Feb 11, 2016 13:31:32 GMT -5
What is Vee up to nowadays? Always liked him.
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b52legend
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Post by b52legend on Feb 11, 2016 19:14:15 GMT -5
Both of these guys ended up having really nice careers....for other teams. We went through a bad period of losing guys who could have grown into upper class contributors. The bench has gotten longer this year. Don't know why we couldn't find a regular place in the rotation for these guys. Benimon ended up being a much better player than Nate IMO, because he at least ended up being able to play both ends of the floor.
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This Just In
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Post by This Just In on Feb 11, 2016 19:53:52 GMT -5
Both of these guys ended up having really nice careers....for other teams. We went through a bad period of losing guys who could have grown into upper class contributors. The bench has gotten longer this year. Don't know why we couldn't find a regular place in the rotation for these guys. Benimon ended up being a much better player than Nate IMO, because he at least ended up being able to play both ends of the floor. I said the same thing about Benimon over Nate, but some posters insist it is only because Benimon played against inferior talent at Townson
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Post by aleutianhoya on Feb 11, 2016 19:56:15 GMT -5
Both of these guys ended up having really nice careers....for other teams. We went through a bad period of losing guys who could have grown into upper class contributors. The bench has gotten longer this year. Don't know why we couldn't find a regular place in the rotation for these guys. Benimon ended up being a much better player than Nate IMO, because he at least ended up being able to play both ends of the floor. Both were in the rotation, particularly Jerrelle. He played a full ten mins per game as a frosh and a soph. Whitt and Otto came in the next year so maybe he saw the writing on the wall. Vee got a handful of minutes virtually every game as a frosh and a soph. Not as many but he was playing behind Wright, Freeman, and Clark, so there just weren't many available. His second year, Markel entered as a frosh, one year behind him. So he got non insignificant minutes despite the existence of other good options (three of whom were juniors or seniors). And would have gotten a lot more the next year with Chris and Austin gone. Sure, Markel would have gotten a lot too, but Vee would have played a bunch. So, if wasn't (or shouldn't have been) a PT issue with him. I don't think you can blame playing time while they were here for either of the transfers. Maybe just telhe existence of better players, and that will happen.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Feb 11, 2016 20:10:21 GMT -5
Both of these guys ended up having really nice careers....for other teams. We went through a bad period of losing guys who could have grown into upper class contributors. The bench has gotten longer this year. Don't know why we couldn't find a regular place in the rotation for these guys. Benimon ended up being a much better player than Nate IMO, because he at least ended up being able to play both ends of the floor. Both were in the rotation, particularly Jerrelle. He played a full ten mins per game as a frosh and a soph. Whitt and Otto came in the next year so maybe he saw the writing on the wall. He had been playing behind Nate, so I suppose that was a factor, but be could have passed him in the rotation (and as it turned out, Nate was forced to play a lot of five unexpectedly). Vee got a handful of minutes virtually every game as a frosh and a soph. Not as many but he was playing behind Wright, Freeman, and Clark, so there just weren't many available. His second year, Markel entered as a frosh, one year behind him. So he got non insignificant minutes despite the existence of other good options (three of whom were juniors or seniors). And would have gotten a lot more the next year with Chris and Austin gone. Sure, Markel would have gotten a lot too, but Vee would have played a bunch. So, if wasn't (or shouldn't have been) a PT issue with him. I don't think you can blame playing time while they were here for either of the transfers. Maybe just telhe existence of better players, and that will happen.
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b52legend
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Post by b52legend on Feb 21, 2016 17:38:15 GMT -5
Both of these guys ended up having really nice careers....for other teams. We went through a bad period of losing guys who could have grown into upper class contributors. The bench has gotten longer this year. Don't know why we couldn't find a regular place in the rotation for these guys. Benimon ended up being a much better player than Nate IMO, because he at least ended up being able to play both ends of the floor. I said the same thing about Benimon over Nate, but some posters insist it is only because Benimon played against inferior talent at Townson Benimon got a serious look by the NBA - and might have even been on a couple of rosters for a bit - so I think that pretty much debunks the argument that he just showed out against inferior talent.
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b52legend
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Post by b52legend on Feb 21, 2016 17:43:03 GMT -5
Both of these guys ended up having really nice careers....for other teams. We went through a bad period of losing guys who could have grown into upper class contributors. The bench has gotten longer this year. Don't know why we couldn't find a regular place in the rotation for these guys. Benimon ended up being a much better player than Nate IMO, because he at least ended up being able to play both ends of the floor. Both were in the rotation, particularly Jerrelle. He played a full ten mins per game as a frosh and a soph. Whitt and Otto came in the next year so maybe he saw the writing on the wall. Vee got a handful of minutes virtually every game as a frosh and a soph. Not as many but he was playing behind Wright, Freeman, and Clark, so there just weren't many available. His second year, Markel entered as a frosh, one year behind him. So he got non insignificant minutes despite the existence of other good options (three of whom were juniors or seniors). And would have gotten a lot more the next year with Chris and Austin gone. Sure, Markel would have gotten a lot too, but Vee would have played a bunch. So, if wasn't (or shouldn't have been) a PT issue with him. I don't think you can blame playing time while they were here for either of the transfers. Maybe just telhe existence of better players, and that will happen. The way things ended up with Vee and Benimon, I'm not sure we had a number of better players on the roster. In any case, you won't do a lot of consistent winning if guys transfer when they feel there are 2 or 3 better players on the roster. You need depth for games and competition in practice. Coach has to find a way to make every player feel like they are developing and an important part of the team -- he has done a better job of that since the rash of transfers I think.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Feb 22, 2016 0:09:47 GMT -5
With the way this season is going, every time I come to the Board index the past few weeks and I see the "Jerelle vs Vee" thread I laugh out loud. Good stuff.
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