RDF
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Post by RDF on Feb 1, 2011 12:05:26 GMT -5
Didn't initially know what you meant, but for argument's sake, I'll take Vee over Jerrelle when it comes to:
Dancing--Vee's funky disco robot from the future of 1984 vs Benimon worst dancer on team.
Looking like Malcolm Jamal Warner---Vee dominates this
Vee in terms of Georgetown Trivia--Jerrelle's answers made me question the Hoya entrance exam--but I digress. If you don't know--"plead the 5th" and Benimon--that means Amendment--not fouls.
Finishing at rim--know Vee's "floater" didn't fall last night--but it's better odds of going in then a Benimon layup attempt.
Running a break
Break Dancing
Kicking Chuck Norris, Don the Dragon Wilson, John Kreese of the Cobra Kai Dojo, and Jet Li's ass in one glare
Bringing back high top fade only to change it-because he's too cool to bring anything back-it never left.
Vee is Kenny Powers--Jerrelle is Stevie Janowski. (III is Ashley Schaeffer)
Vee's time will come--and when it does--we'll have his fan club-the "Cockroaches"--in tribute to Theo Huxtable's BFF-and the female Hoya fans can be "Justines" and entire section should dress in Cosby Sweaters.
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Post by HometownHoya on Feb 1, 2011 12:14:42 GMT -5
Didn't initially know what you meant, but for argument's sake, I'll take Vee over Jerrelle when it comes to: Dancing--Vee's funky disco robot from the future of 1984 vs Benimon worst dancer on team. Looking like Malcolm Jamal Warner---Vee dominates this Vee in terms of Georgetown Trivia--Jerrelle's answers made me question the Hoya entrance exam--but I digress. If you don't know--"plead the 5th" and Benimon--that means Amendment--not fouls. Finishing at rim--know Vee's "floater" didn't fall last night--but it's better odds of going in then a Benimon layup attempt. Running a break Break Dancing Kicking Chuck Norris, Don the Dragon Wilson, John Kreese of the Cobra Kai Dojo, and Jet Li's ass in one glare Bringing back high top fade only to change it-because he's too cool to bring anything back-it never left. Vee is Kenny Powers--Jerrelle is Stevie Janowski. (III is Ashley Schaeffer) Vee's time will come--and when it does--we'll have his fan club-the "Cockroaches"--in tribute to Theo Huxtable's BFF-and the female Hoya fans can be "Justines" and entire section should dress in Cosby Sweaters. I know its frowned upon but, +1 ;D That hightop fade is fly
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Feb 1, 2011 12:46:22 GMT -5
Ranch Dressing -----> Unhealthy Man Love ------> Vee Sanford
I plead the 5th.
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Post by HometownHoya on Feb 1, 2011 12:47:45 GMT -5
Ranch Dressing -----> Unhealthy Man Love ------> Vee Sanford I plead the 5th. Its ok Ranch, I'm with you...I would probably go as far as take Vee's jersey right off his back to get one
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Post by seaweed on Feb 1, 2011 12:49:26 GMT -5
if I were his parents, I would be reminding him of that he is getting the best damn degree in (competitive) Div 1 hoops. and also that thing about patience, excellence and working hard for stuff
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Feb 1, 2011 12:54:18 GMT -5
Thankfully, Weed, you are not Vee's parents.
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Post by skyhoya on Feb 1, 2011 12:57:50 GMT -5
Vee's mommy told him to be patient and get a Georgetown degree
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Post by seaweed on Feb 1, 2011 12:58:16 GMT -5
what is that supposed to mean? are you just being a Edited or is there genuine editorial content buried in that smug crap?
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Post by kchoya on Feb 1, 2011 13:00:52 GMT -5
For the life of me I cannot understand the commitment to Vee's development via playing time. 90 % of the time Vee has played, he has been contributor and made an impact to Gtown wins. Vee 3pt buckets before half is the difference in the Villanova game. Also take a look at his performance in the pre-season. Now when I look at Jerrelle he has made numerous bone head mental mistakes. There has not been one game I can say I am glad he played and he made a difference in the game. Last night he she have passed the ball on the break. He has made numerous bad passes and drops where it seems he is not mentally concentrating. He is not a monster on the boards nor defense. What does he bring to the table. Getting to the point. Why is Jerrelle receiving playing time and Vee does not. I don't get it. Vee should eat up all of Jerrelle playing time. I am a huge GTown fan and a JTIII supporter. But I love Gtown does not jade my eyes to see that there is an inequity going on with Vee. I know I am not privy to practice to know what's going on there, but Vee has been a contributor to the GTown success during game. Vee needs more playing time to increase his confidence so when tournament time comes he is ready. I just hope we are not looking at another transfer at the end of the season. If I was his parents I would not like what I am seeing. So, are you Vee's dad? Uncle? Cousin? Friend of the family? AAU coach? It has to be one of the above. "If I was his parents I would not like what I am seeing." What kind of crap is that? Poor Vee.
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Post by skyhoya on Feb 1, 2011 13:03:47 GMT -5
just throwing some fuel on the fire. love Vee
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 1, 2011 13:06:40 GMT -5
Thankfully, Weed, you are not Vee's parents. Seriously? Yes, it's awful when parents stress an education.
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Post by guru on Feb 1, 2011 13:19:20 GMT -5
Vee has more threads per week than points per game. I'm sure he has nothing to do with the board infiltration on his behalf — but it's annoying.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 1, 2011 13:51:28 GMT -5
And the Bennimon Myth continues.
Nate needs a breather. We're short at the big position. Nonsense.
Nate, Julian, Simms can all play power forward.
Not to mention that Hollis has also been playing power forward and I'd rather have out of position Hollis out there at power forward than Bennimon any day.
In 5 minutes he commited a foul on a 3 point play and blew a wide open 4 on 1 lay up. Those 5 points could have been the difference between winning and losing. Every game I see him make some kind of incredibly stupid play.
There is no reason that Bennimon should play one minute.
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Post by jld54 on Feb 1, 2011 14:12:59 GMT -5
This is crazy. This team has been thin in quality backcourt depth since JT3 came aboard. Even in the FF year Rivers was the third guard! Now we have solid depth; the byproduct of this is a pecking order, and Vee comes in behind 3 experienced and talented upperclassmen.
While I cannot pretend to know or judge Vee, if he has his head on straight he should know that we have not recruited over him next year -- Trawick is a swing man and will need time to develop -- , and 60+ minutes of CW and AF's time is available. He has learned behind very good college guards every day, has chipped in well in limited minutes, and is getting a free GU education to boot. Barring an unforeseen problem, he is in line from a starting role or sixth man type role for the next 2 years.
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Post by michaeldm9 on Feb 1, 2011 14:22:40 GMT -5
For my first post I like all the replies banter. My only point is that I would like to see the kid's productivity be rewarded. I leave the Gtown B-ball program operations to the coaches. I am not complaining. Just wondering. I will just sit back and be a fan a voice my opinion. Hopefully his time will come. I not related to the kid but I know that he has come up big some wins this year. Go Gtown.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 1, 2011 14:27:53 GMT -5
I don't think it's a question of JB vs. VS for minutes. Agree with all previous posts that our guard depth exceeds our frontcourt depth at the moment, and unfortunately for Vee it means he won't be getting extended minutes anytime soon despite the fact he usually contributes in a positive way when he's on the floor.
I think the more frustrating thing is why MA gets no run while JB does. The only two things I see JB having an edge over MA right now is experience and quickness. Other than that, I'm not sure what JB provides us that MA can't (i.e. rebounding, ball-handling, perimeter shooting, etc.) I get that JB tries hard, but I can't live with the fumbled passes, poor decisions on defense, and not being able to hold his own in the paint. We've put the MA redshirt debate to rest. If he's not saving a year of eligibility this year, we should use him because like the Starks/Vee situation, Moses will be playing a larger role next year than JB if we're going to succeed in the long run.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Feb 1, 2011 14:36:53 GMT -5
Benimon is scary bad. He is a homeless man's Sam Jefferson. (Why did he foul Billy O....why Sammy why)? His 3 on 1 charge (was not really a charge was par for the course) was the story of his career. If he is ever getting major minutes we are in trouble. 3-6 mins a game is where he is supposed to be. On the other hand Bronxie likes Vee but he is stuck behind better players right now.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 1, 2011 14:43:43 GMT -5
And the Bennimon Myth continues. Nate needs a breather. We're short at the big position. Nonsense. Nate, Julian, Simms can all play power forward. Not to mention that Hollis has also been playing power forward and I'd rather have out of position Hollis out there at power forward than Bennimon any day. In 5 minutes he commited a foul on a 3 point play and blew a wide open 4 on 1 lay up. Those 5 points could have been the difference between winning and losing. Every game I see him make some kind of incredibly stupid play. There is no reason that Bennimon should play one minute. Neither Henry nor Julian can possibly play defense at the 4 if the opponent has a guy with any quickness whatsoever. Jerrelle can. He made a bad defensive play fouling the 3; Nate did the same. He absolutely should not be leading the break. But Coach knows exactly what he is doing using Jerrelle in spot duty at the 4. And like it or not, it's gonna stay that way. Maybe instead of ripping the kid every single chance you get, we should all appreciate the occassional plus(2 boards in 5 minutes last night), hold our breath when he has the ball, and trust the coach.
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Post by ScreamingHoya on Feb 1, 2011 14:44:52 GMT -5
Benimon is scary bad. He is a homeless man's Sam Jefferson. (Why did he foul Billy O....why Sammy why)? His 3 on 1 charge (was not really a charge was par for the course) was the story of his career. If he is ever getting major minutes we are in trouble. 3-6 mins a game is where he is supposed to be. On the other hand Bronxie likes Vee but he is stuck behind better players right now. For a moment, I thought hell froze over and you didn't refer to yourself in the third person. Then I got to the end. The earth is still on its axis.
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Post by skkhoya07 on Feb 1, 2011 14:50:18 GMT -5
During our 5 game winning streak, III has played a bigger lineup with HT, lubick, and JV for long stretches of time instead of sticking with a 3 guard lineup. This lineup has proved beneficial in rebounding and controlling the game on the defense end.
The insertion of HT at 3 has forced III to shorten his rotation with his guards. So of course the 5th guard will have few or no minutes barring injury/foul trouble/extremely poor play.
The downside of playing HT more at 3 instead of 4 is that lubick is now our only main power forward. Benimon is all we have on the bench who can play in IIIs system as a 4 (remember he has to be able to float around the 3 point line on offense).
Now to minimize risk, III is willing to play HT at 4 for long stretches as long as he feels the defense will hold up, but it is clear now that we can dominate with a bigger lineup due to lubick's and HT's development.
I think III has done a hell of a job managing benny's minutes so that he does not become a complete disaster liability.
On the other hand, I fully expect III to put in Vee when we play against more perimeter oriented teams (especially now that clark is in a funk).
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