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Post by bergerhoya on Mar 22, 2011 20:56:35 GMT -5
If you've seen Richmond's "modified Princeton," you would know it's much more "modified" than our offense.
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Post by strummer8526 on Mar 22, 2011 21:01:25 GMT -5
Simple. Kids who want to play Princeton...go to Princeton. And if they are OK with Princeton...they're probably mid-major at best. Yup, u heard right, there's trouble in River City, and it starts with P, but it ain't pool. It's R...and that's for Recruits. This post has been brought to you by the letter F. Roll credits — www.zappinternet.com/video/besWhoPmiW/Sesame-Street-End-Credits-1992
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Post by alleninxis on Mar 23, 2011 12:59:01 GMT -5
Jay Wright on the short list for Tennessee candidates. maybe this is the way we can land recruits now. (and I know, 0% chance he leaves for it) Jamie Dixon also on the list 5 with Anthony Grant, Mark Turgeon, and Greg Marshall.
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Post by hoyasexy on Mar 23, 2011 13:22:49 GMT -5
I wouldn't say 0% chance with either Wright or Dixon. While Nova and Pitt offer those guys a better chance to win (without having to coach in the shadow of the football team and the women's basketball team), I would assume that Tennessee has a larger budget than either one. People like to win, no doubt, but people like money, too. I wouldn't put the odds very high in either case, but I wouldn't put them at zero either.
That said, if I were Tennessee, I would go after Anthony Grant. That guy can coach.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 23, 2011 15:57:13 GMT -5
Both Jay Wright and Jamie Dixon have reportedly turned down better jobs than Tennessee (and ones more relevant to them). I suppose someone could come in with an FU offer, but Tennessee doesn't seem like they are going to offer $4M/yr or anything like that.
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Post by RDF on Mar 23, 2011 16:19:00 GMT -5
Why would Jay Wright leave--he's perceived as a great coach and always can use the "threat" of taking another job to stay at Nova and take heat off his performance as a coach. For all the crap we've given III, Jay Wright has done far less with higher rated talent in his program then III. Pressure is really going to be on Wright in future with his highly thought of classes of '11/12 coming in too--but I'll say this--he knows he's not a great coach--so he's amped up his recruiting--which is what will win games--just get players.
Dixon could pick/choose a ton of jobs-but think he's going to stay at Pitt.
Remember--this is time of year that coaches look for other jobs but also time of year where coaches who are under scrutiny (fair or not) have their agents leak their names out to change the talk from "what is going on....." to "Please Stay!!!".
Lawrence Frank of the Celtics is rumored to be under consideration-but I highly doubt that Tennessee would want to wait for him to leave Celtics which is likely going to be at earliest--late May. Frank worked at Tennessee before and is highly thought of for being a tireless worker/hoops lifer--ala Tom Thibadeau.
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Post by prhoya on Mar 23, 2011 16:27:53 GMT -5
Now that we're off topic, where will Shaka Khan end after VCU finishes the season? He could be acandidate for Tenn and tons of top tier programs.
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Post by idhoya on Mar 23, 2011 17:42:29 GMT -5
I heard Frank is like the third choice on the UT wish list
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Mar 23, 2011 19:21:49 GMT -5
To get back on topic, JTIII has successfully recruited and developed several NBA caliber players in his time here.
It astounds me that on the morning of February 23 we were ranked #9, flying high, and no one was talking about the lack of JTIII's ability to recruit or talent level on the team.
Then, our PG and most important player breaks his wrist. As a direct result of this ill-timed injury, the team ends the year on a bad slide. Today, a lot of people proclaim that JTIII is massively deficient in recruiting.
Come on, fellas. Cowboy up a bit. I know losing 5 games in a row and losing Ochefu to Vanillanova stings, but this is a massive overreaction to the actual situation.
I'm trying to remember back correctly, but here are the NCAA tourney seeds this team has secured over the past several years under JTIII:
#6 #3 NIT #2 #2 #7
Is this really a team that can't compete in CBB because we don't have athletes? We've had some seriously bad luck the last two seasons with Freeman's diabetes and Wright's wrist. We ran into a buzz saw in Davidson playing in a North Carolina gym (by the way, they also beat #3 seed Wisconsin and very nearly beat #1 seed Kansas after they beat #2 seed Hoyas). Perhaps our string of bad luck evens out the tremendous fortune we had in the 2007 tournament (e.g., Vandy, UNC wins). Final 4s don't come around often if you aren't Duke or UNC or Kentucky.
I contend that JTIII is among the hardest working, ethical, most intelligent, incredibly dedicated coaches in the country. We are incredibly fortunate to have him at Georgetown.
I, for one, put a lot of trust in his abilities to recruit the right kids for the school and program, and don't doubt for a minute that the Hoyas will be securing similar NCAA seeds for years and years to come under his guidance.
I think some of you would do better to put more faith in JTIII as well.
Hoya Saxa!
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 24, 2011 11:51:38 GMT -5
Interesting post, Ranch. This isn't really the thread for this discussion, but my view is that the team overachieved this year until Wright got hurt, and then the wheels came off. Let's face it, we had absolutely no inside game this year. Vaughn came up big for awhile, but he was basically it. I still have high hopes for Lubick, but he showed negligible offensive skills this year. Sims improved but is still an underachiever, and Benimon? Less said the better. Given that, the team's success this year prior to Wright's injury was pretty startling.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Mar 24, 2011 12:07:19 GMT -5
Recruiting is part of coaching dear lad. It is indeed the biggest part of coaching at the college basketball level. Interesting post, Ranch. This isn't really the thread for this discussion, but my v iew is that the team overachieved this year until Wright got hurt, and then the wheels came off. Let's face it, we had absolutely no inside game this year. Vaughn came up big for awhile, but he was basically it. I still have high hopes for Lubick, but he showed negligible offensive skills this year. Sims improved but is still an underachiever, and Benimon? Less said the better. Given that, the team's success this year prior to Wright's injury was pretty startling.
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Post by prhoya on Mar 24, 2011 12:30:23 GMT -5
Interesting post, Ranch. This isn't really the thread for this discussion, but my view is that the team overachieved this year until Wright got hurt, and then the wheels came off. Let's face it, we had absolutely no inside game this year. Vaughn came up big for awhile, but he was basically it. I still have high hopes for Lubick, but he showed negligible offensive skills this year. Sims improved but is still an underachiever, and Benimon? Less said the better. Given that, the team's success this year prior to Wright's injury was pretty startling. I disagree. You don't mention the pre-season BE POY. No one could have foreseen Austin's subpar level of play over the last month of the season. Missed open 3s were more common than made 3s. JV's last month could have been his worst of the last two years. Henry's play decreased after he got the attention from the GUSA campaign. Now it's back to rebuilding his confidence for next year. Change of number? We underachieved because the staff and our players, including Austin, underperformed towards the end of the season.
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Post by idhoya on Mar 24, 2011 15:44:02 GMT -5
Some people seem convinced Henry is penciled in as a starter at the 5. I don't see it. I think Adams abuses kids in Kenner and earns the spot. Just my opinion.
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Post by SirSaxa on Mar 24, 2011 15:46:17 GMT -5
Some people seem convinced Henry is penciled in as a starter at the 5. I don't see it. I think Adams abuses kids in Kenner and earns the spot. Just my opinion. I agree ID. No way Henry starts. In three years, he's done nothing to show he deserves it.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 24, 2011 16:09:07 GMT -5
Henry could start if he works hard again this off-season and we see the mid-season Sims, only better. If not, he may well start early in the season, but will definitely have a huge battle to keep that spot.
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Post by westendhoya on Mar 24, 2011 16:14:02 GMT -5
If Henry starts we are a 4-12 team. I'm sorry, I really like and pull for the guy, but he is incompetent and a liability on the floor.
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Post by idhoya on Mar 24, 2011 18:19:50 GMT -5
Frazier, he has many different things to "work hard" on. He has to get stronger, learn to play hard all the time, stop being so scary (gain confidence), and work on his back-to-the-basket game. Doubtful he gets all of this done in one summer. Head may be most important though.
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Post by dreamhoya on Mar 24, 2011 18:30:57 GMT -5
you have to look between the creases, Henry has the ability/talent. he will flourish at the 4 if he plays there with another "competent" big.
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Post by prhoya on Mar 24, 2011 18:39:02 GMT -5
So far, Henry has sucked at the 4. Why would it be different next year?
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 24, 2011 20:48:36 GMT -5
Recruiting is part of coaching dear lad. It is indeed the biggest part of coaching at the college basketball level. Interesting post, Ranch. This isn't really the thread for this discussion, but my v iew is that the team overachieved this year until Wright got hurt, and then the wheels came off. Let's face it, we had absolutely no inside game this year. Vaughn came up big for awhile, but he was basically it. I still have high hopes for Lubick, but he showed negligible offensive skills this year. Sims improved but is still an underachiever, and Benimon? Less said the better. Given that, the team's success this year prior to Wright's injury was pretty startling. Where did I say or imply otherwise, "dear lad?"
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