TC
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Post by TC on Mar 14, 2010 10:25:31 GMT -5
But, because he came back and tied it right back up, it was meaningless, and probably helped us because they had 17 seconds to run their offense instead of 26. Honestly, it looked like the best chance of forcing overtime came in trying to take the ball away as WV went upcourt before the timeout - they came very close to forcing a turnover there.
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chep3
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Post by chep3 on Mar 14, 2010 10:28:04 GMT -5
Agreed. Chris kept rising to get his hand on that pass. Could have won it by just getting to 1 more loose ball.
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Hoya50
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Post by Hoya50 on Mar 14, 2010 11:12:36 GMT -5
got home at 4 last night (what an awful night for a time change) in that miserable rain and while i was certainly disappointed at the game's outcome, i was extremely proud of how the hoyas played.
if i was told on wednesday that the hoyas would be in the be final and tied with less than a minute left, i would have bought that in 2 seconds flat. none of us knew how the hoyas would look heading into this tourney. these boys gave it their all. they took a top 5 team to the wire last night running on pure guts. more importantly, they've recovered their confidence heading into the ncaa's. i am an extremely proud hoya fan and look forward to the seeding announcement today.
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Post by bmartin on Mar 14, 2010 11:39:53 GMT -5
Great effort when it was clear we did not have the legs or the sharpness to play at our best for an extended period. Stayed in the game and then spent everything on the final run. It is impressive that after 3 7/8 games, our guys were able to put together a 15-6 run to get from 50-41 to 56 all. No complaint with the way we played the ending possessions. As for the Butler play, in 2007 or 2008, PE Jr would have guarded Butler with Roy underneath to swat his shot if he penetrated. If Vaughn had not fouled out he would have been in there to defend the shot. In hindsight, if a similar situation occurs Sims should be in as a shotblocker in the paint.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Mar 14, 2010 11:41:29 GMT -5
I'll take a rematch with WVU in the FF. count me out haha im not trying to get outrebounded by 20 again...
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Post by Massholya on Mar 14, 2010 12:20:45 GMT -5
2 things:
1) very proud of the guys and expect great things the next few weeks 2) F NJ Transit - how bout telling people that the train that's supposed to come is never coming. Would have been nice to have been able to make alternate plans to get to the game.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Mar 14, 2010 12:22:28 GMT -5
I am so proud of our guys. We really battled. It just wasn't our night bounces were going against us. Once bounce here or there it's a different game. It sucks we lost. But we were right there despite a lot of things going against us.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 14, 2010 15:24:36 GMT -5
3. I actually thought it was a decent play by Chris to foul at the end. They had just gotten an o-board and the shotclock had reset, so why not foul Mazzula with enough time left that we can run an offensive set after his shots? Giving WV 27.6 seconds to set up a play for Butler wasn't a better option than putting a lousy FT shooter on the line. Worst-case scenario, you're down 2 with enough time to run plays -- not down 3, not down 2 with 2 seconds left, either. Don't really understand all the ragging on Chris for that decision. . Yeah, I thought it was a good risk. Mazulla is shooting 43% on the season and is a career 63% FT shooter. You figure he at least misses one if not both under the pressure. Which means you would only be down by 1 or tied instead of letting Butler finish the game off. Worst case scenario like you said, down 2 with plenty of time left. Course Mazulla hit both of them and was 6-6 from the line last night but that play still didn't hurt us as we tied it right back.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 14, 2010 15:38:50 GMT -5
I also think Wright would have finished that last second layup if he had had 1 more second on the clock.
He basically had to release it early to avoid the buzzer.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Mar 14, 2010 16:42:49 GMT -5
The double bye seemed to hurt team in their first game (3 out 4 lost), when they played teams with tournament experience. However, as the tournament wore on, the double bye became a big advantage.
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Post by GUJook97 on Mar 14, 2010 16:56:10 GMT -5
3. I actually thought it was a decent play by Chris to foul at the end. They had just gotten an o-board and the shotclock had reset, so why not foul Mazzula with enough time left that we can run an offensive set after his shots? Giving WV 27.6 seconds to set up a play for Butler wasn't a better option than putting a lousy FT shooter on the line. Worst-case scenario, you're down 2 with enough time to run plays -- not down 3, not down 2 with 2 seconds left, either. Don't really understand all the ragging on Chris for that decision. . Yeah, I thought it was a good risk. Mazulla is shooting 43% on the season and is a career 63% FT shooter. You figure he at least misses one if not both under the pressure. Which means you would only be down by 1 or tied instead of letting Butler finish the game off. Worst case scenario like you said, down 2 with plenty of time left. Course Mazulla hit both of them and was 6-6 from the line last night but that play still didn't hurt us as we tied it right back. Yeah, I never really got the full story on that. Did Coach/coaches tell Chris to foul? In all honesty, I wasnt that bothered by it. I still cant believe Mizzoula went 6-6 from the FT when he is a 43% shooter. Not enough was made of that. That might have been the game. He didnt even barely make them either. They were true. That being said, if we were down by 1, i think we would have run a set play for the end game, and it might not have been as successful as Chris running down the court to tie it, like he did. So, you never know.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 14, 2010 17:51:36 GMT -5
Yeah, I never really got the full story on that. Did Coach/coaches tell Chris to foul? In all honesty, I wasnt that bothered by it. I still cant believe Mizzoula went 6-6 from the FT when he is a 43% shooter. Not enough was made of that. That might have been the game. He didnt even barely make them either. They were true. That being said, if we were down by 1, i think we would have run a set play for the end game, and it might not have been as successful as Chris running down the court to tie it, like he did. So, you never know. If you look at Mizzulla's game log he's a very streaky FT shooter. He was 7-8 during a 3 game period and 8-11 during the month of February. During the month of January he was 4-14. We caught him at a very bad time.
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Madgesdiq
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Post by Madgesdiq on Mar 14, 2010 18:37:32 GMT -5
I also think Wright would have finished that last second layup if he had had 1 more second on the clock. He basically had to release it early to avoid the buzzer. He was actually thrown off because he was bumped at the top of the key by Deniz Kilicli. It was probably a foul but one that will never (and shouldn't be called) at the end of a game. Same type of foul call cost Seton Hall an NCAA title in 1989.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Mar 14, 2010 20:06:11 GMT -5
Just back from NYC / wind and rain / Leo's, exhausted, and the only thing I have to add is that I'm so proud of these guys and so proud to be a Hoya. WVU is an excellent team that happens to be the best in country at exploiting one of Georgetown's main weaknesses. The Hoyas battled from 9 down with 8 to play, and it came down to a circus shot by the BET MVP with less than 10 secs to go, followed by a prayer with less than 5 secs to go that could have been called a foul, and with the way the Hoyas were shooting FTs, a very possible overtime.
The loss really, really hurt, but to these Hoyas, and the way they strung together some of the best basketball they've played in 2 years, I say bravo.
Team, if you're reading this, you played an outstanding Big East Tourney, and we're all behind you as you march on.
First step, Ohio this Thursday.
Also wanted to say thanks to the Hoop Club for throwing a great pre-game at Stout. A great--a very well-attended!--event.
HOYA SAXA.
[On Edit:] Chris Wright only sometimes gets the appreciation and support he deserves---and is often derided for his mistakes---but last night, he gave a tremendous effort that unfortunately came up short, in most the high-profile way, right at the end. The look on his face in the picture in today's Post was heartbreaking. Cruising hoyaprospectus, I noticed that he was the most positive force on the floor for GU last night. His heart, drive, determination, and ability are an inextricable part of the Hoyas post-season success so far this year, and of the Hoyas chances at greatness over the next few weeks. I just wanted to recognize that. You're the man, Chris.
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Post by byaah on Mar 14, 2010 22:56:37 GMT -5
Chris Wright's foul was smart not because Mizzoula might miss, but because that meant that the Hoyas would have the ball with a chance to win/tie and not Butler. Instead, we scored quickly, giving Butler the chance to throw up his garbage shot. The Washington Post today called it "hideous," but I think there was nothing we could do to stop it from going to go in. Sometimes the ball just doesn't bounce your way. Down 2 with 20 seconds left, I wish we had held it for the last shot. There are just some players (Butler) you don't want to be able to touch the ball with less than 35 seconds to go.
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Post by WVHoyasfan on Mar 14, 2010 23:54:48 GMT -5
This lost will hurt me until we beat WVU b/c everybody on here knows I live in WV and im the ONLY Gtown fan in my family .They just can't understand why Im a Gtown basketball fan and not a WVU basketball fan.I've told them over and over that you can't force your heart to like another team when your heart has already picked a team to love.That team for me is Gtown atleast in basketball and Gtown will be my team forever.My Dad has'nt said much about WVU beating Gtown but I can tell he is loving it but you can't win them all and WVU has had our number the past four games but the tide will turn and when Gtown starting beating them again then I will be the one walking around the house with a smile on my face .
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Post by vamosalaplaya on Mar 15, 2010 12:20:08 GMT -5
2 hour ride home on Saturday night - it would be great if the "traffic report" on the radio would say things like "The FDR is closed" - followed by a blackout at home, but the game was worth it even though we lost. I would compare it to the epic NYC games such as UConn in 1996, ND in 2007, UNC in 2007, etc.
Very loud Hoya presence at the Garden, it was great to see. The WVU fans in our area were actually pretty pleasant, and there were some seriously rude GU fans - can't say I have ever seen that before - yelling obcenities about hillbillies. Small sample size, but there was a big Georgetown crowd in my area and the WVU fans for the most part kept close to themselves, acting a bit like they were guests in someone else's arena.
I saw it first on TV in the Syracuse game, and then saw it again in the WVU game - but JT III was really getting on the players during timeouts when their effort or decision making lagged. After Vaughn drove to the basket and got hit with a charge in the second half JT III got in his face for a large portion of the time out - really uncharacteristic. I must say, though, I had the same thought when I saw him getting on the players in the first half of Syracuse, "Used selectively, this is probably a good technique."
What I loved most about the game was the way the team kept playing their game and taking good shots during the comeback. They didn't lose their poise and rush things. And it worked.
JT III went to a zone with about 10 minutes left - it worked for a few possessions, then didn't work again, he went back to man to man. I know its WVU's game - crash the boards, tip the ball, keep it in play - but gosh it was frustrating to watch the tipped balls to WVU's way on the offensive glass.
It was my ten year old's first GU game, and first Big East game. He cried at the end as thousands of WVU fans celebrated and "West Virginia" came blaring over the loudspeakers. It was time to leave . . . .
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Post by roysgirlfriend on Mar 15, 2010 12:56:17 GMT -5
Disagree on the CW foul. First off, he did make up for it and there is no difference. Second, you could more argue that it was a GOOD foul as Mazzulla is not a good FT shooter. Let it go. It had nothing to do with how the game ended because Chris made his layup quickly. I wasn't going to post on this because overall I think Chris had a pretty good game vs. WVU. But that "he made up for it" stuff is nonsense. You don't want players trying to individually make up for bad plays. I knew, knew, knew he was going to drive down the court to try to score because he felt like he had to make up for it. That's not what we want. Yes, he scored. But I have a feeling if he drove into 5 WVU players and got blocked by 4 of them, you would not be pleased with his decision to try to make up for it. Also, I agree the foul wasn't killer for us, but it didn't help.
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Post by Madgesdiq on Mar 15, 2010 13:03:09 GMT -5
there were some seriously rude GU fans yelling obcenities about hillbillies . . . . sorry about that one.....
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