OFFICIAL LOST SEASON 6 THREAD

[HoyaSinceBirth]

jgalt's right we do need a new thread so I copy and pasted my thoguths from the season 5 thread to here.

Ok my thoughts/questions after last night's premier:

The truth of the matter is we still don't really know what happened when the bomb went off.

So the new story telling device are these "flash-sideways". It appears as many speculated that activating the bomb created an alternate timeline.

The question is how are the two stories we're seeing related. In my mind there are two options that both have flaws as of now with the information we have.

1) The alternate time line is a separate reality not connected to the stuff we're seeing on the island.
Support: That's what it seemed like. The on island losties don't seem to think anything's changed except for the fact that they're back to the present times.

Negatives: How do the two realities reconcile with each other. Are they some how going to merge at some point? will there be interaction between the two realities. If not what's the point?

2) The alternate time we're seeing of the original flight is the new past of what we're seeing on island.

Support:
Juliet tells miles that it worked.
Otherwise what's the point of the off island alternate reality stuff

Negatives:
Why don't they realize it worked?
How did they end up on the island anyway then?
especially if the island was under water in the alternate time line.


So what the heck was up with the island being underwater? Did the nuke explosion sink the island? Did global warming just happen a lot faster in this alternate reality? We see the Dharma shark from season 1 so it had to sink after Dharma got to the island.

What did Juliet mean when she said it worked. Did the plan work. If so How would she know?

Desmond on the flight. Why was he there in the alternate reality? Was he really there in the alternate reality? Jack's the only one who we knwo saw him or interacted with him.

So fake locke (flocke) is revealed to be the smoke monster who we also assume is the man in black talking to jacob at the end of season 5. We still don't know exactly who he is since we don't have a name yet.

Where is his home that he wants to get to? The temple? Off island?

Richard was in chains? Was he a slave from the black rock ship? Will we finally find out why he doesn't age beyond the fact that Jacob made him that way? Apparently we will from kristen of E ": "You're going to get all your answers: Why doesn't he age? Where's he from? What his powers might be? Who he is? And there is one specific episode that deals with all of that." Well that's good at least.

Speaking of Jacob, so he's dead? Sort of? Maybe? Hurley can still talk to him and he says he's dead, but he can still tell hurley things and think. What does dead mean? as locke said in the alternate reality they lost jack's father's body but not jack's father. jacob is now free of his body, but in some ways he still exists. Is jacob now is sayid?

When did Sayid become so important? Bad things will happen if he dies? luckily i guess he didn't. But he wa saved the same way ben was last season. How will this change sayid? Richard said it would take away ben's innocence and he's never bet he same and would always be one of them.


Will we see anyone we haven't yet in the alternate reality? Will walt be back? Michael? Libby?

Will we find out what happened to clair on island? So The man in black has clearly been messing with the losties for a while in the form of christian Sheppard. So why was claire with him in the cabin?

Last season we learned that someone else had been using what was jacobs cabin from illana. So that was the man in black. There was a circle of ash around the cabin. Based on their reaction to seeing the circle broken presumably jacob had the ash around the cabin to keep his enemy out. Rather than to keep his enemy in there. Someone broke the line of ash allowing the man in black to start using the cabin.

Will they ever reveal some of the info that was revealed online in the between season interactive online adventure stuff on the actual show or will the majority of viewers who just watch the show just be left in the dark about that stuff, mostly about the dharma institute?

That's all I can think of off the top of my head. Lost is ridiculous and it's jsut going to get crazier as the season goes on. I can't wait.

[TC]

I just rewatched the underwater zoom - they purposefully do not show how tall the foot statue is. They pan to the statue but never up it.

They also pan underwater directly below the plane as soon as Jack finishes his conversation with Desmond.

I don't believe they would have had Jack ask Rose if she had seen Desmond if there weren't something up with his appearance.

[jgalt]

YAY!!!

here is your reward:

www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2010/02/Other-Others.jpg

love the best week ever recaps.

Anyway, good start to the season. Kind of annoying to introduce a whole new set of characters, but these guys seem much more direct than any before. and really there is only one new character because granola man and fu manchu are never really apart.

You would think the losties would have become less stubborn over time. They keep getting held captive by people but are consistently hostile toward them and only end up getting beat up by them in the end. Maybe if they started being a little more cooperative they would get some answers.

[Nevada Hoya]

C'mon guys, where's your interest?

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/03/AR2010020303565.html?hpid=sec-artsliving

[HoyaSinceBirth]

So, Jacob's rival is smokey.
Jacob's rival seems hell bent on proving Jacob that he's wrong about someone and to kill him.

So why has smokey killed certain people on the island like mr. eko? Were they people who were capable about proving him wrong? What is their argument about? It appears to be something about Human Nature.
Anyone have any thoughts?

[Nevada Hoya]

It seemed as if Ben had control of smokey last year. Maybe Ben has been in cohoots with Esau all along, but Ben's demeanor recently is that he doesn't have a clue.

[RBHoya]

Thought the premiere was pretty good. I'm a little wary of the alternate timeline/off island stuff, because I think it could potentially be somewhat pedestrian (by lost standards) and I just always enjoyed the on-island stuff more than the "real world" stuff like what we saw in season 4 and some of early season 5. For instance a good amount of time was devoted to Kate doing her fugitive thing, which I feel like we've seen a ton of times already. But I thought everything that happened on the island was money, especially the stuff with the Fake Locke/Smoke Monster/whatever you want to call him.

As far as the alternate timeline goes, I think the whole "destiny" theme is going to come into play there. When they were on the island (the old timeline), Jack saved Charlie's life. Now in the new timeline, Jack has saved Charlie's life. On the island Christian's casket/body went missing, and now in the alternate timeline Christian's casket/remains went missing. Most importantly, Desmond. He's Scottish of course but somehow in the new timeline he HAPPENS to end up on this flight from Australia to LA with Jack, Sawyer, Kate, Locke etc. I mean in the new timeline he could have been anywhere, but he ended up on that same flight. Makes me think that destiny (or something similar) is conspiring to bring these key players together for some greater purpose, island or not. I do think at some point that timeline is going to have to mesh with the timeline we're used to, but how, I couldn't even begin to guess.

[HoyaSC]

I really don't like the alternative timeline. I thought it was boring and wanted to hurry up and be over so we could get back to the island.

[HoyaSinceBirth]

www.docarzt.com/lost/the-official-lost-podcast-returns-damon-and-carlton-explain-it-all-not/

helps explain some stuff while not explaining stuff.

[strummer8526]

I seem to be in the minority in actually liking the alternative timeline. It's sort of like season one flashbacks b/c we're back to seeing Locke in a wheelchair, Claire pregnant, Kate running from the law, etc. So for me, there's sort of a nostalgia to it. And it makes me sad how pathetic some of their lives would have been if they never made it to the island.

Also, I think there's some significance to Michael and Walt not being in that episode. And Shannon. Shouldn't she have been on the plane w/ Boone? And Hurley said to Arzt "I only have good luck" or something to that effect. So has the bomb somehow altered not just their post-815 lives, but also their pre-815 lives?

[HoyaSinceBirth]

I mean there's the whole if you squish a bug in the past it has incalculable consequences on the future. Imagine how blowing up a Nuke in the 70s could change the world. There's tons of stuff that might be different.

[jgalt]

Feb 4, 2010 23:15:25 GMT -5 HoyaSinceBirth said:

I mean there's the whole if you squish a bug in the past it has incalculable consequences on the future. Imagine how blowing up a Nuke in the 70s could change the world. There's tons of stuff that might be different.

Orrrrr...maybe not. Maybe the "size" of the change you make has no difference. Why should the magnitude of an event in the present determine its magnitude in the future??? HMMMMMMMMMM? I want answers! I thought the time for questions was over!

[HoyaSC]

The best name I've seen so far for Smoke Monster Locke is "Smocke."

[Boz]

Mac?

Are we gonna' get bad ass karate moves?

[HoyaSinceBirth]

1) MAC! awesome totally didn't realize he was on lost before.
2) Unrelated but watchign the providence game then lost Brooks #2 for providnece totally looks like grown up walt.
3) Slow first half of the show, but it really picked up in the second half
4) CLAIRE! and finding out what happened to claire sort of.
5) Interesting in the "second just as real" reality( since the writers don't like the word alternate) ethan is a dotor in LA and not on the island. Maybe a lot of people who we've seen on the island will pop up because they left on the sub or never made it to the island in the first place. Will we see julliet?

[RBHoya]

Anybody else notice Ethan called himself "Dr. Goodspeed" rather than "Dr. Rom"? I sort of forget the whole deal there but I think I remember there being some unanswered questions from last season with regard to his mother and her first husband, who had the ankh necklace. Not sure the significance, if any, just thought that was interesting. Maybe he only took on "Rom" when he defected to the others, and that never happens in this timeline.

I marked out for Claire of course, really curious where that goes. Think they set the table nicely for the whole "infected"/"claimed" thing, even though not a ton actually happened in this episode til near the end. Seeing what happens going forward with both Sayid and Claire is very interesting, and it will give us a lot of insight as to the man in black and the nature of the dark forces on the island. Next week's episode with Fake Locke looks like it could really kick ass.

[jgalt]

Feb 9, 2010 22:44:39 GMT -5 HoyaSinceBirth said:

5) Interesting in the "second just as real" reality( since the writers don't like the word alternate) ethan is a dotor in LA and not on the island. Maybe a lot of people who we've seen on the island will pop up because they left on the sub or never made it to the island in the first place. Will we see julliet?

I took this a completely different way. I think Ethan is still Ethan and knows all about Claire and Kate and who they are/were

I think everyone is going to end up back on that island no matter what they do and it will all happen on another flight to australia. Here is why i think this:

1) Jack has to go back to Australia to find his Dad's body
2) Claire has to go back because she lives there
3) Kate goes back to either run from the law or to be with claire for some reason
4) Just before Kate hijacked the Taxi hurley was yelling about something business related that concerned "the outback." at first i thought this was a reference to outback steak house, but now i think it is about a restaurant chain in Australia that he is buying that he will need to go back to Australia to deal with

I am guessing the other characters motives will be revealed (like Sun and Jin being deported back to korea)

They are stuck and the only way out is death, hence why Juliette said "it worked" after she died

[Boz]

Yup. Sure enough. Just looked up Rob McElhenny on IMDB and there he was on Lost in 2007.

I have to watch this episode again. I was too distracted, first by the Hoyas, then by the Bruins-Sabres that went to a shootout. I missed a lot. They go up on ABC.com the next day, right?

[HoyaSinceBirth]

Sometimes they're up by 1 or 2am.

[williambraskyiii]

wait, who was the guy that yelled at Kate in the jungle? she hit him with a butt of the rifle when imprisoned in the Others' camp?