KHoyaNYC
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Mar 8, 2009 10:00:13 GMT -5
I don't see the brackets as favorable. I'd be surprised to see us playing on Wednesday. Why don't you see this bracket as favorable?
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Mar 8, 2009 10:01:26 GMT -5
sorry i like our route to the semis yup easiest for us in my book but we will see to hoyas
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MassHoya
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Post by MassHoya on Mar 8, 2009 12:01:52 GMT -5
SirSaxa's point is well taken. This is comparable to a hitting slump. Right now the Hoyas should relax and enjoy the BET. Whatever happens, happens. No one on this Board would be shocked if they lost the first round and no one would be shocked if they went to the semis. Finals, maybe, but a pleasant shock. We'll worry about next year after a chance to rest and prepare. Right now we still have the BET and whatever comes after. If it's not the Big Dance, we'll deal with it.
The fans should be pulling together to root for our guys. The uniform still says GEORGETOWN. That's all we need to know. GO HOYAS!!! Beat the Redmen.
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royski
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Post by royski on Mar 8, 2009 12:33:16 GMT -5
Maybe it's not the marquee matchup it sometimes was, but the game is still Georgetown vs. St. John's at the Garden in the BET. I'm excited. Let's take them down hard and avenge that L.
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tarkman
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Post by tarkman on Mar 8, 2009 12:49:17 GMT -5
I'll settle for a renewed commitment to execution .... one possession at a time. That way, a few "baby steps" just might equate to a gigantic leap.
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royski
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Post by royski on Mar 8, 2009 13:02:12 GMT -5
I'll settle for a renewed commitment to execution .... one possession at a time. That way, a few "baby steps" just might equate to a gigantic leap. I'd settle for you only making this post in one thread.
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Madgesdiq
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Post by Madgesdiq on Mar 9, 2009 8:33:35 GMT -5
I don't see the brackets as favorable. I'd be surprised to see us playing on Wednesday. Why don't you see this bracket as favorable? Because we are playing St. John's instead of South Florida.
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sleepy
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Post by sleepy on Mar 9, 2009 8:44:48 GMT -5
Well thats rather shortsighted. If we played South Florida instead of St Johns, then we would have to face Syracuse then Uconn. I don't know who in their right mind would trade playing St Johns if it meant playing struggeling Marquette team and Nova instead of a surging Cuse team and the number one team in the country. If we can't be St Johns the second time around, I am not sure how well we would have done against South Florida either.
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NCHoya
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Post by NCHoya on Mar 9, 2009 9:26:17 GMT -5
Regardless of how favorable the schedule is, I want nothing more than to beat SJU after last week's debacle and get a chance at MU without James. In a season like this, revenge and redemption take on extra meaning. We have no realistic chance of making the big tournament so all that is left is finding motivation in playing well and going down fighting.
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guru
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Post by guru on Mar 9, 2009 9:26:53 GMT -5
Well thats rather shortsighted. If we played South Florida instead of St Johns, then we would have to face Syracuse then Uconn. I don't know who in their right mind would trade playing St Johns if it meant playing struggeling Marquette team and Nova instead of a surging Cuse team and the number one team in the country. If we can't be St Johns the second time around, I am not sure how well we would have done against South Florida either. Not sure how much Marquette is "struggling" - yes, they've lost 4 in a row, but three of those losses came to possible 1 seeds in the NCAA tourney. An OT loss at home to a good Syracuse team is not necessarily an indication that a team is collapsing. And after watching both that game and ours against DePaul over the weekend, I'd say they're still much, MUCH better than the Hoyas. The way this team is playing, there wasn't ANY scenario that would amount to a "favorable draw." I'm trying to be optimistic, but I'm having a very hard time seeing this week extend past Wednesday (and I'm not even sure we get that far). Ugh
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KHoyaNYC
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Mar 9, 2009 10:05:08 GMT -5
Well thats rather shortsighted. If we played South Florida instead of St Johns, then we would have to face Syracuse then Uconn. I don't know who in their right mind would trade playing St Johns if it meant playing struggeling Marquette team and Nova instead of a surging Cuse team and the number one team in the country. If we can't be St Johns the second time around, I am not sure how well we would have done against South Florida either. Totally agree. We got a better draw given our struggles. We've played MU decently twice and after seeing them against Syracuse on Saturday, believe they are ripe to be picked off.
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 9, 2009 12:26:03 GMT -5
The way we have played the last two months, a "favorable draw" would require a reshuffling that would either (1) give us a bye to the finals or (2) match us up with South Florida if we beat St. John's, followed by Rutgers or DePaul.
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Dhall
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Post by Dhall on Mar 9, 2009 13:00:05 GMT -5
The problem with this bracket is that beating St. John's is meaningless, beating Marquette is not that impressive since we lost to them twice when they were at full strength, and beating Nova on a neutral/road court is something we have already done. So I don't see us getting much credit for these three wins if they happen. I'd rather have Notre Dame's bracket against Rutgers, WVU and Pitt since that would greatly improve our resume with only 3 wins and might not require that 4th win. I bet Notre Dame would trade brackets with us and they are the higher seed.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Mar 9, 2009 13:14:11 GMT -5
we need wins period. The number of wins is more important than who we beat to get them. We need to get to 19 wins. We have quality wins. Winning vs. marquette and vs. Nova would give us two more top 50 wins. That'd bring us up to 6 which is the most of any bubble team. A few big 10 teams also have this many but i don't think anyone else has more.
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Post by FromTheBeginning on Mar 9, 2009 14:32:09 GMT -5
We are not getting in nor do we deserve to be in unless we win the BET - stranger things have happened but the "strangeness bar" went way up after that performance on Saturday. One game at a time---
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Madgesdiq
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Post by Madgesdiq on Mar 9, 2009 14:35:07 GMT -5
Well thats rather shortsighted. If we played South Florida instead of St Johns, then we would have to face Syracuse then Uconn. I don't know who in their right mind would trade playing St Johns if it meant playing struggeling Marquette team and Nova instead of a surging Cuse team and the number one team in the country. If we can't be St Johns the second time around, I am not sure how well we would have done against South Florida either. Not sure how much Marquette is "struggling" - yes, they've lost 4 in a row, but three of those losses came to possible 1 seeds in the NCAA tourney. An OT loss at home to a good Syracuse team is not necessarily an indication that a team is collapsing. And after watching both that game and ours against DePaul over the weekend, I'd say they're still much, MUCH better than the Hoyas. The way this team is playing, there wasn't ANY scenario that would amount to a "favorable draw." I'm trying to be optimistic, but I'm having a very hard time seeing this week extend past Wednesday (and I'm not even sure we get that far). Ugh That was my point. I am just trying to get to Wednesday, and South Florida would have given us the best chance.
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KHoyaNYC
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Mar 9, 2009 14:37:50 GMT -5
we need wins period. The number of wins is more important than who we beat to get them. We need to get to 19 wins. We have quality wins. Winning vs. marquette and vs. Nova would give us two more top 50 wins. That'd bring us up to 6 which is the most of any bubble team. A few big 10 teams also have this many but i don't think anyone else has more. Right. 4 wins will do it. We'll have more quality wins than any bubble team. 3 wins will probably put us on the wrong side of the bubble though. But we'll definitely get a look. Will depend on how other bubble teams fare.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Mar 9, 2009 16:51:14 GMT -5
we need 3 wins to get to 19 and i think that will be enough. It'll be close but i think we get in with 19. 20 we're a lock.
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royski
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Post by royski on Mar 9, 2009 17:02:07 GMT -5
we need 3 wins to get to 19 and i think that will be enough. It'll be close but i think we get in with 19. 20 we're a lock. I generally would agree, but I think Marquette is the issue. They've lost 4 straight games without James, and if they lost to us, that would be 5. I think that's puts a significant, and unfair, damper on how good of a win that would be. We are in the conversation at 19 though, I agree.
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The Stig
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Post by The Stig on Mar 9, 2009 17:07:18 GMT -5
I don't think the bracket matters too much. We can beat any team if we play as well as we're capable of playing.
We can talk about Marquette after we beat St. Johns.
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