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Post by chrismchaines on Jan 15, 2009 17:01:24 GMT -5
As for Duke, we match up very well, with height, strength, quickness and intelligence. Absolutely no reason we cannot go in there and put it to them, as long as we stay focused for 40 minutes and play our own game. Take good shots, make controlled passes, and play tough D and the Crazies will be morose and moribund on Saturday. I usually don't agree with this type of "we're the best" positive outlook, but I agree with everything that you wrote. I think we are more talented than Duke and if we come in and play our game, stay focused and not let Cameron, the Crazies or any level of biased officiating get to us, we certainly win this game.
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Post by HoyaSC on Jan 15, 2009 17:14:53 GMT -5
I think a win over us would be huge for Duke's program. They'll be hungry for the national respect a win over us would bring them. We can't let them get it.
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 15, 2009 17:15:05 GMT -5
Who has Duke really played?
They have had a soft schedule so far. Xavier is the only real top 25 team they have beaten. (Michigan has been horrible for over a decade, I don't consider them a legit team yet).
I'm not saying they aren't good, but it's hard to guage how good they are when 90% of their games have been against mediocre teams.
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Post by coloradohoya on Jan 15, 2009 17:15:28 GMT -5
We need the same formula we used against 'Cuse and UConn to win this game. Come out and punch them in the face. Get a 10-15 point lead early in the 1st half, and then prevent any big runs from them. I can't explain it, but I feel like we are just shooting so much better when we are winning than when we are losing. Plus we need them to miss shots; we made a lot of great plays on or off of the runout last night.
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Post by njhoya06 on Jan 15, 2009 17:36:17 GMT -5
Who has Duke really played? They have had a soft schedule so far. Xavier is the only real top 25 team they have beaten. (Michigan has been horrible for over a decade, I don't consider them a legit team yet). I'm not saying they aren't good, but it's hard to guage how good they are when 90% of their games have been against mediocre teams. They beat Purdue at their place too, but we've obviously played a tougher schedule so far, and have the better wins. If we're hitting our shots, we can beat anyone in the country. I'm optimistic for Saturday. It's a great situation for us, as many others have noted, due to a win being awesome for the team/program, and a loss not being devastating to our prospects. I'm excited already. Glad we only have to wait two more days.
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Post by dense on Jan 15, 2009 17:38:47 GMT -5
I wouldnt be so quick to go Wright> Smith......i wasnt viewed that way at all..I mistyped Chris wouldnt be a 3 time all met if Nolan doesnt go to Oak Hill. Nolan was thought to be better than Chris for a long time locally. I dont know if thats the case now...but i remember that DC assault backcourt of Nolan and Austin just killing teams.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Jan 15, 2009 19:31:31 GMT -5
Who has Duke really played? They have had a soft schedule so far. Xavier is the only real top 25 team they have beaten. (Michigan has been horrible for over a decade, I don't consider them a legit team yet). I'm not saying they aren't good, but it's hard to guage how good they are when 90% of their games have been against mediocre teams. Duke's SOS is #2 in the country, only behind us. To say they haven't played a challenging schedule yet is probably incorrect.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Jan 15, 2009 19:52:43 GMT -5
What I will say, beyond the statistics, is that Duke hasn't played anyone as good as we are. We will be the best, and most talented, team they face. Whether that translates to a win, I don't know. But we are the best team they've faced.
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Post by hoyaalf on Jan 15, 2009 20:26:27 GMT -5
A win, especially with bench-production follwing on from last night, would no doubt be a tremendous lift.
However, since it isn''t a B'East game, a good showing by the bench would be the next best out-come. Close games in difficult environments can motivate.
The SU team wanted to go back to their beds last night.
JB on the other hand might have been motivated to find out if he can control those kids. Curiously, it seemed as if he could care less as the camera sought him out, as if he had decided that they weren't going to win and how to use it for the next gameAND the next GU game.
K won't do that nor will his team. Carolina perhaps but not Lorillard.
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Post by RBHoya on Jan 15, 2009 22:55:36 GMT -5
On talent alone, I like us. In a 7 game series played at a neutral site, I think for sure we win. But, it's just 1 game, and it's at their building which is a tough place to play. Their fans will be fired up for sure.
I expect them to do what Cuse tried to do, and what just about every other team we face this year is going to try to do--attack the paint and/or pound it inside and try to get fouls called on Monroe so he'll have to sit and they won't have to face him on the other end. Referee's love Duke, K works the refs well, the fans will be into it and the Dookies are well versed in the art of the flop (like this, for example: , so it's possible they'll get some calls Greg will have to sit. To some extent there's nothing you can do about it, but at the same time we have to bear it in mind and not give them any opportunity to call the cheap ones.
Outside of that, just need to shoot well. Shot the ball great against Cuse. Against Notre Dame--a game that resembled Duke in some ways--pretty poorly. Definitely much more difficult to do on the road. If we are making our outside shots and we can keep Greg and DaJuan out of foul trouble, you have to like our chances.
They have nothing even close to resembling an answer for Greg. Brian "Zoobz" Zoubek moves like Roy Hibbert with some leg weights on. If we can force them to respect our outside game and not all clog the middle, Greg will eat him up 1 on 1. I'm sure they'll help off and double team, again meaning we need our perimeter guys to hit their shots. We're GONNA get open shots, but can we go into a tough gym and hit em? That's the big question.
I think we have the more talented team. But, I thought we were the more talented team in Dec. '06 (and post season results seem to indicate I was right) and we lost that one and it wasn't especially close. The same thing could very possibly happen on Saturday, but if we can find the range from outside and avoid foul trouble and stupid plays, we'll be alright I think.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Jan 16, 2009 1:06:32 GMT -5
as i seem to remember it, we were right in the game in 06, and then came undone at the end, no?
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Post by sleepy on Jan 16, 2009 1:24:44 GMT -5
as i seem to remember it, we were right in the game in 06, and then came undone at the end, no? I believe you are correct. I think we had a six point lead with 6 to go the completely collapsed and ended up losing by six. It was a very very ugly game. Now its two completely different teams playing tommorow.
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Post by RBHoya on Jan 16, 2009 7:35:55 GMT -5
Looks like it was a little closer than I remembered. Looks like we made a run to take a one point lead midway through the second half, but then had almost a 6 minute drought and ended up losing by 9. guhoyas.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/120206aaa.htmlI just remember the dookies writing the words "Our House" on a white board, and everybody cheering it like good little children . It wasn't a blowout, we were in the game but it never really felt like our game to lose (as the game the previous year did), as I remember. For Duke, a lot of the same guys are still there... Paulus, Scheyer, Henderson, Zoubek, Thomas, all were on that team. The only Georgetown guys who played in that game that are still on the team are DaJuan and Jessie. Other interesting storylines... Wright and Smith is an interesting matchup. I'm sure the two know each other from local tournaments and whatnot, even though Nolan didn't play in the WCAC. Austin and Julian for sure know Nolan well, as they were all starters--along with Mike Beasley--on one of the best AAU teams in a while, the DC Assault squad of '06. Hopefully Austin and Julian know some of Nolan's weaknesses and can clue Chris in. Additionally, I know some people might want to forget this, but Wright wanted to go to Duke all along. He was a guy who was really focused on the ACC in high school and by most accounts wanted to go to Duke. However K pursued Smith instead and never gave Wright an offer, so Wright decided to go to NC State, sorta the next best thing and would give him a chance to prove K wrong. Whether or not he plays with a chip on his shoulder on Saturday, I don't know. Maybe he'll play up, or maybe he'll press and try to do too much. A nationally televised game like this would be a good way to show the world that he's as good or better than Nolan and just prove himself to his doubters. On the other hand, obviously Monroe spurned Duke for Georgetown, so "the crazies (zomg they're soooooooo zany )" are going to be all over him. He's too composed to let any of it bother him, but just the sheer volume they create can be somewhat distracting. Finally, this game is for sure important. They are one of our toughest competitors on the recruiting trail, and just for overall program strength. They've cornered the market for the last decade+ on northeastern and midwestern "bandwagon fans", a market that we need to start tapping to bring more money into the program, more notoriety to the school, more fans to the games, etc. Beating them in January '06 was a good first step toward taking that crown back, but despite our great play since then and Duke's mediocre play, we've still got a ways to go. Breaking their almost 9 year OOC home win streak tomorrow would be a big boost for our program.
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Post by lichoya68 on Jan 16, 2009 9:26:58 GMT -5
nine year ooc win streak thats a wowowww maybe this game IS important go hoyas beat duke THEN beat the big east errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrsssssssss
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Post by Hoya50 on Jan 16, 2009 9:38:12 GMT -5
Referee's love Duke, K works the refs well, the fans will be into it and the Dookies are well versed in the art of the flop (like this, for example: , so it's possible they'll get some calls Greg will have to sit. To some extent there's nothing you can do about it, but at the same time we have to bear it in mind and not give them any opportunity to call the cheap ones. no team in the country exploits flopping like duke. fortunately, i don't see anyone on this duke squad that matches the flopping proficiency of a wojo or battier. that being said, the player that i believe is most susceptible to foul touble in this regard is summers. he loves those baseline drives which gives him no room to maneuver and on the other end i can picture 3 dukies looking for a cookie after taking the charge. one advantage the hoyas have is the passing game which should force defenders to move, get out of position and take away an intrinsic component duke's defensive strategy.
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Post by dense on Jan 16, 2009 10:05:57 GMT -5
the thing thats makes us well equipped to handle Duke's defense is that they usually feed off the fact that most teams have 1 or 2 guys who cant handle the ball or are uncomfortable dribbling with someone applying alot of pressure. Not the case with us....... all 5 guys can handle in fact the only guy with bad handles is Vaughn, Sims is a decent handler. I just pray to God that they overplay alot tomorrow..PLEASE,PLEASE
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Post by yunghoya on Jan 16, 2009 10:15:04 GMT -5
just have to cover the the three point line and gtown will be fine
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Jan 16, 2009 10:24:38 GMT -5
yeah i hope they're overplaying passing lanes as they normally do....we've done a good job handling pressure this year. We need to take care of the ball and have our offense running smoothly...should be a great game
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Post by superan on Jan 16, 2009 10:29:59 GMT -5
I think a win over us would be huge for Duke's program. They'll be hungry for the national respect a win over us would bring them. We can't let them get it. quoted for truth
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Post by kchoya on Jan 16, 2009 10:54:59 GMT -5
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