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Post by MCIGuy on Nov 10, 2007 14:08:34 GMT -5
Yeah, Michigan will be tough across the board. The home and home return games are always tough. They will remember the pasting, much like Oregon did last year. And, you are right, RDF, Bielein will have them ready. I expect a squeaker. I don't know. Last year we expected a squaeker or defeat at Vandy for the second game and we controlled that one throughout. Needed to get some jitters out of the way.
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Nov 10, 2007 14:10:28 GMT -5
Solid start over a decent team. William and Mary should finish somewhere in the middle of the always tough Colonial.
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Post by balla on Nov 10, 2007 14:12:11 GMT -5
Pretty much what I expected across the board. Thought Ewing would have played better, but that's about it. When a team shoots lights out early in the game, it will catch up with them and losing going away is exactly what will happen, and it did. yeah, this is pretty much how it will be for most of the pre-season. I do not expect GU to blow to many teams out. Most of these games will be closer than we would want, and there maybe a head scratching loss or two. The only thing that will really bother me all year will be the depth at the 4-5 spots. But there is nothing that can be done about that now. So Summers, Pat, and Macklin will just have to play strong, and get used to playing 5 against 8. All of the 3's is not a big deal right now. I would rather these guys jack them up now, and realize their strengths and weakness.
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Post by GUJook97 on Nov 10, 2007 14:18:17 GMT -5
Yeah, Michigan will be tough across the board. The home and home return games are always tough. They will remember the pasting, much like Oregon did last year. And, you are right, RDF, Bielein will have them ready. I expect a squeaker. I don't know. Last year we expected a squaeker or defeat at Vandy for the second game and we controlled that one throughout. Needed to get some jitters out of the way. Right, but they won the first game in that home and home series. Home and homes like this are unusual because you dont expect to play a team that is specifically prepared for you at this point of the season. It sometimes catches you off guard.
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Post by MCIGuy on Nov 10, 2007 14:27:43 GMT -5
3-point shooting WILL be a strength of this team. But when the shots aren't falling sometimes you have to go for the higher percentage buckets.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Nov 10, 2007 14:32:45 GMT -5
Sapp, Summers, and Wallace were 9-19. Those are the guys you want shooting in a game like this. The other guys needed to open up their games more by attacking tin, pulling up in mid range, and so forth. There's no reason why people should be coming in off the bench and trying to light it up in the first half of a game like this.
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Post by sleepy on Nov 10, 2007 14:37:18 GMT -5
Anyone who was at the game have any reports. Listening just isn't the same.
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Post by mapei on Nov 10, 2007 14:40:25 GMT -5
Second half much better, obviously. One problem with all those 3s W&M were draining earlier is that they were generally uncontested and WIDE open. Also, we let them have WAY too many offensive rebounds, considering our guys are bigger and stronger. At times it looked like we weren't even trying to rebound unless the ball came RIGHT TO one of our guys, and even then we sometimes lost it or, several times, tipped it out to one of their players.
I was quite unimpressed with our D, although W&M's shooting % was very low in the second half. We must have been doing something right, but you couldn't tell by just looking.
There were three controversial offensive fouls called right in front of me. To be honest, I thought the ones on Summers (his 4th, trying to ram his way out of a jam down low) and Wright (a charge when he just plain wasn't looking where he was going) were both legit. The one on Freeman, sort of a trip along the baseline as he was trying to get the ball to the opposite corner, looked like it might have been the wrong call.
There were Ts called on both benches, but I couldn't tell why.
Roy was automatic on offense down low. Jessie played very well. DaJuan was very good until his fouls caught up with him. (One result of that was a lot of Vernon and Roy on the floor at the same time.) Pat played some good D, also made some turnovers. Jeremiah got a lot of first half action, not very much in the second. JT went to a lot of 3-guard sets against W&M's zone. JWall made some big 3s and otherwise was quietly effective.
#13 for W&M can play.
Random thoughts from section 110.
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Post by mapei on Nov 10, 2007 14:42:21 GMT -5
Also: once again Tyler was the odd man out.
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 10, 2007 14:46:51 GMT -5
There were Ts called on both benches, but I couldn't tell why. Obviously I was not there, but I'll bet these were results of the new 'bench decorum' - basically if the coach does not sit down he's at risk for a T. Pretty stupid rule if you ask me.
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Post by Dhall on Nov 10, 2007 14:47:14 GMT -5
The only reason this game was close (and why we lost to ODU last year) was because Coach likes to play reserve players even in close games. While it's nice to get them the time, I'd much prefer he does it after we open up a 12-14 point lead as opposed to doing it when the game is basically even. Also interesting to notice that Hibbert and Macklin were on the court together a bunch - Macklin is a solid player if not a scorer.
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Post by mapei on Nov 10, 2007 14:51:33 GMT -5
A couple of other at-the-game observations I forgot to mention:
The students showed up in bigger numbers than I can remember for any game since Duke. Just incredible. They don't have the call-and-response cheering down yet, but that was really heartening. Well done.
Man those incessant corporate promotions during timeouts and halftime are annoying.
Love the new intro video, and I think I like the new Jumbotron/scoreboard, which is HUGE. But I don't think they used it a single time for a replay, which was a waste.
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Post by azarin on Nov 10, 2007 14:56:46 GMT -5
I agree with mapei on the offensive rebounds. When I just looked at the box score, I was amazed that Roy actually had 8 rebounds-- for most of the game, we let them have rebounds without much of a challenge. Agreed that the second half looked a lot better. Finally, did anyone see that monster block Roy got in the first half? Seems like he's serious about not allowing layups
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Post by MacHoya on Nov 10, 2007 14:59:49 GMT -5
The T's were not called for standing up, but rather for stepping onto the court.
My observations:
Roy's touch around the basket has improved tremendously - once we started getting it into him in the second half, he was unstoppable.
Summers was the only rebounder who impressed me today.
Sapp looked the most confident on the floor.
Freeman looked a little lost and seemed to be forcing his shots (to be expected from a freshman).
Wright was very vocal on the floor for a freshman and did not seem to show any ill effect from the hobbled foot.
Overall not a bad effort, though we have a long way to go before we are "Big-East" ready.
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Post by FewFAC on Nov 10, 2007 15:06:07 GMT -5
I guess jacking up so many threes led to pretty poor rebounding, not that there really seemed to be a ton of rb ops given the slow pace. I would think that this team with so much returning back and frontcourt experience would be able to dictate tempo and generate a few more transition opportunities, but it is very early still.
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Post by naijahoya on Nov 10, 2007 15:12:09 GMT -5
Does anyone know why Tyler Crawford did not play? I dunno if I missed something but no one seems to have mentionned it...
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 10, 2007 15:17:40 GMT -5
I actually don't think Macklin and Roy played together that much, only about 6 minutes. It will probably be lower than that for the most part, as Ewing was really bad today and Summers had foul trouble. We even went with 4 guards for a while today.
I still don't know what to think of Macklin - he doesn't seem to be very good on D, and his rebounding is still disappointing. Hopefully he can at least get involved in the offense a bit.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Nov 10, 2007 15:19:30 GMT -5
Does anyone know why Tyler Crawford did not play? I dunno if I missed something but no one seems to have mentionned it... There was no reason that I could tell - he came to the scorer's table at the end of the first half but did not get subbed-in. Also, there were some atrocious calls by one particular referee today (white hair, loves to call offensive fouls), he got hit in the face by a ball coming out of bounds because he was not watching the game.
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Post by mapei on Nov 10, 2007 15:24:19 GMT -5
Does anyone know why Tyler Crawford did not play? I dunno if I missed something but no one seems to have mentionned it... There was no reason that I could tell - he came to the scorer's table at the end of the first half but did not get subbed-in. Also, there were some atrocious calls by one particular referee today (white hair, loves to call offensive fouls), he got hit in the face by a ball coming out of bounds because he was not watching the game. I'm pretty sure he was on the floor at the very end of the first half. I think he got "a trillion."
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Post by sleepy on Nov 10, 2007 15:29:43 GMT -5
"The only reason this game was close (and why we lost to ODU last year) was because Coach likes to play reserve players even in close games. While it's nice to get them the time, I'd much prefer he does it after we open up a 12-14 point lead as opposed to doing it when the game is basically even."
I like that JTIII does this. I thinks it helps the bench much more playing in a close game than when we have a comfortable lead. We are going to need those guys to play well come Feb and March, and most likely in close games. It may not be as much fun as a fan, but as long as we win who really cares?
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