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Post by HoyaChris on Feb 11, 2014 1:20:21 GMT -5
After Providence.
Markel moves up to #36 in career scoring with 1079 points, passing Brian Sheehan and Charlie Adrian. Next up is Bill Bolger with 1084 points.
DSR is up to 694 points, already 75th on the career scoring list. Barring injury or early departure, he is probably even money to pass Patrick Ewing for #2 on the Georgetown career scoring list.
In a rather amazing coincidence, Nate is #25 on all three of the career rebound list with 559, the career block list with 65, and the career assist list with 244. Nate is also 90th in scoring with 600 points.
Markel is 22nd on the assist list with 262.
Mikael is now #20 in career blocks with 86.
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Post by HoyaChris on Feb 8, 2014 4:50:45 GMT -5
The pacers are very frustrating to me. The front office never went out and got a pg. to an extent there are too many guys in the lineup that need the ball I. Their hands. Hill, George and Stephenson. They ignore Roy for long stretches too which is also very frustrating. While the Pacers would be a better team with Chris Paul - who wouldn't be - I am pretty happy with the construction of the Pacer's roster. The only player who really needs the ball in his hands too much is Paul George who is having a season that reminds me of a second year Kevin Durant. George Hill often goes long stretches without taking a shot and Lance Stephenson - much to my surprise - is a really good and really willing passer who has increasingly become the de facto point guard for the Pacers. The issue of Roy's role in the Pacer's offense is more complex. Roy is taking about a shot less a game this year than last year despite slightly increased minutes. Some of this is to be expected given the expansion of offensive options which include a more assertive Paul George, a greatly improved Lance Stephenson, a healthy Danny Granger and the addition of Luis Scola. A bigger issue is that Roy is quietly in the midst of a somewhat poor offensive year which has been obscured by the greater appreciation of his pivotal role in the Pacer's awesome defense. Through the wonders of NBA League Pass and the DVR I have watched almost all of Roy's possessions on offense this year and, simply put, Roy is having trouble scoring at the rim in a lot of games and a greater percentage of his shots consist of hook shots from the wing which look good when they go in but which he really doesn't convert at a high rate. The Pacers understand that Roy is struggling a bit and they seem to be looking to establish Roy early in games as he often has two or three shots on post ups in the first five minutes of games. They tend to go away from the post feeds and Roy if these initial efforts are unsuccessful. The common theme of most of Roy's big offensive games this year has been a big first quarter.
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Post by HoyaChris on Jan 27, 2014 23:56:28 GMT -5
So let's recap:
Our out-of nowhere recruit develops so quickly that he leaves after his sophomore year as the number three pick in the draft.
His putative replacement, a player with the potential to be one of the great defensive players to ever play at a school that historically has meant defense, succumbs first to academics, then to a knee injury, and ultimately transfers.
The class had already been reduced by the loss of a top 50 center who had to give up the game due to a 1 in 50,000 heart condition.
To put the cherry on top of our frontcourt situation our former high school All-American center transfer consumes everything except knowledge and ends up academically ineligible.
We played tonight with a player with a broken jaw.
And one with a broken nose.
And with our best outside shooter shot up with painkiller for his injured ribs. This, apparently, impinges on the ability to hit open three pointers.
To top it off, the freakin' NCAA suspends Moses for a game for a four year old clerical error which they, apparently, could not catch back when Moses never got into the game when the suspension would not have mattered. Meanwhile Johnny Manziel can sign 5000 autographs for "free" and gets one tenth the total penalty that Moses receives.
I was really proud of our team tonight. I feel like the basketball gods owe us more than one. Hopefully we get our payback in a run of games in March.
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Post by HoyaChris on Jan 26, 2014 8:20:01 GMT -5
Some thoughts from the Creighton game.
I don't think the issue is physical fatigue any more - it was in the Xavier game - but the pressure on Markel and D'Vauntes to be the offense is clearly fatiguing. Essentially they are in an offense that is supposed to get them good shots but there are about zero good shots when you are playing with three non scorers on the floor and both Markel and D'Vauntes are both double- teamed any time they touch the ball.
I thought our defense last night was quite good. Creighton's season-to-date offensive efficiency was 128 coming into the game which is other-worldly and they could not have been much over 100 for the game. Mikael did an exceptional job on McDermott.
The foul against Reggie on the three point shot took place about 15 feet from me and was beyond absurd.
Both Markel and especially D'Vauntes had an unusually high number of shots go in and out. It has been that kind of year.
Creighton is an awesome place to watch a game. Tickets were going for $800 on the street and the atmosphere inside had a final four feel to it. The local base of fan support is amazing. Of course,I must have had five people say to me "what else are you going to do in Omaha in the winter". They will need that fan support next year, too, because there won't be much left on the roster.
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Post by HoyaChris on Jan 21, 2014 7:15:05 GMT -5
This the kind of game we saw in 2004. And the rest of the season will look a lot like that too if the players give up on this staff. Game attendance is going to plummet.It's a bad sign when the student section is already tarped off...in January. DFW, I am confused by your agenda. There is not a scintilla of evidence that the players have given up on the staff nor any indication that such an event might happen. Between this comment and your ongoing effort to quell any enthusiam for next year's recruiting class, one might conclude that you are anxious for major change in the program. What is the change that you desire? That we sign up for 1A football and join the ACC? That we magically build an 8000 seat on campus arena? That we fire JT III and bring back Craig Esherick? I am pretty certain that none of the above is going to happen.
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Post by HoyaChris on Jan 20, 2014 12:12:28 GMT -5
I am not meaning to bash Nate here, but our offense needs the 4 to make the 12-15 foot jumper and Ike just made more of them in this video than Nate has in his career.
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Post by HoyaChris on Jan 18, 2014 6:48:53 GMT -5
The only way that this could become a problem would be if the Big East was prevented from offering the same stipends to its men's basketball players which sounds like a law suit against somebody that the Big East would win. The issue is not the money. At $5,000 per basketball player this works out to $65,000 per school per year, or $6.5 million for the entire conference for a decade. For context, the Fox TV contract for the same period is $500 million.
There should be no need to offer these stipends in non-revenue sports as Georgetown already offers lots of partial scholarships in the non-revenue sports.
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Post by HoyaChris on Jan 12, 2014 19:48:09 GMT -5
Honestly my gut tells me we wont be seeing him again this season. This isnt Syracuse with Southerland And honestly I'm starting to tire of it. If we aren't going all-in on winning, then why am I following this team? Maybe I read one-too-many absurd wool-over-the-eyes "Bobby Petrino is the devil I can't believe Louisville hired him" pieces this week, but this isn't beanbag. Would any of you honestly not have traded for a 2013 NCAA title if it meant a world in which JTIII was playing with Perkins' waitresses on restaurant floors? Give me the freakin' title! Chirping about academics and program cleanliness and everything else is what programs that don't win do. This isn't the Ivy League. Some of you wish it were--I don't. We don't follow this because we love the ideal of the student-athlete and the purity of amateurism--almost no one in the country (and certainly not the people who sponsor the games or pay for the TV rights) does. We follow it because we want to Editeding win, and we want to hear "Georgetown" on the mouths of everyone who follows college basketball. Otto Porter--who I love--wasn't in this for the student-athlete experience, and he didn't decide he owed it to the program to stick around and get a four-year degree. Why the hell we should care about getting the best student-athletes, as opposed to the best players? Give me your Victor Pages, your Allen Iversons, your one-and-dones. Please! Make exceptions for the athletes so that its easier for them to abide their basketball commitments--which by the way will require them to be in Providence, Indy, and Cincinnati in the span of a week--but hey, better get those studies done! I cannot remember disagreeing more with a post on this talk board from a poster that I respect. First, Hoya basketball players receive - as they should - significant academic accommodation. They take a lighter course load (making it up in the summer)and they have access to a superb tutoring program. Their courses are organized with regard to the flexibility necessary to accommodate in-season travel. During the 42 years of the Thompson era at Georgetown well over 100 athletes have been offered the opportunity of a Georgetown education. The fundamental purpose of a university is to teach and I am extraordinarily proud of the graduation record of the basketball team, because of the University's commitment that said graduation means that the degree actually means something. This does not mean that we can't take one and done or two year players. Both Greg Monroe and Otto Porter were easily on course to graduate with their classes should they have remained at Georgetown. Jeff Green left after three years and cared enough about the diploma to finish 5 years into an NBA career. We should not begrudge a basketball player looking to earn a livelihood any more than we would tell a sophomore software wizard to stay in school and turn down an IPO. Other than my family and my work, nothing matters more in my life than Hoya basketball. I share Big Dog's frustration with what Josh Smith's and Greg Whittington's absence probably means for the rest of the season. But I know that there is no support among the donor base to either the basketball program or the University for a lessening of academic standards that Big Dog suggests. Finally, can we dispense with the false dichotomy that posits an either/or choice between being an Ivy League program or competing like Kentucky. Since the start of the 2006=7 season, we are somewhere in the top 10 for victories against top 25 programs. While we sometimes forget that on this board, this achievement has to mean something. Go Hoyas!!!
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Post by HoyaChris on Jan 12, 2014 0:05:03 GMT -5
Merlin Wilson......Patrick Ewing .......Alonzo Mourning.......Dikembe Mutombo......Othella Harrington.......Roy Hibbert......Greg Monroe....John Caprio?
For the last 7 minutes of the game?
Am I the only person on this board that considers that pulling out a game with John Caprio finishing at center is just absurd.
Incredible, gutsy win by the Hoyas.
And Hinkle is a tremendous place to watch a game.
Although some of the Butler fans are concerned about what they have got themselves into.
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Post by HoyaChris on Jan 9, 2014 14:20:38 GMT -5
Bowen has to be willing to pull the trigger on the jumpers, some people got what they wanted by him passing up shots...now that is an negative. Take the shots...he will miss some,he will make some. He needs to take the shot, be aggressive and not deter to DSR or Starks....We all know DSR is going to get his as he has not met a shot he does not like...other people now have to get aggressive too. Seriously, DSR "has not met a shot he does not like"? DSR is a 180 shooter taking 10.6 shots a game while playing 33 minutes. Our big problem is that we can't get DSR more shots, not that he is good for a few forces.
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Post by HoyaChris on Jan 9, 2014 13:19:42 GMT -5
HoyaChris and I will be at the Wizards/Pacers and Hoyas/Butler games, along with another fellow Hoya '78. While HoyaChris is too modest to trumpet it himself (well, maybe not but I'll do it for him anyway) this is another link in the Dallas resident's impressive Road Warrior run this year (Korea, Puerto Rico, Kansas already; four home games, the Garden for MSU and the Big East to follow). In terms of "to do's" in Indy,and based only on googling around and with lotsa time to kill Saturday, the Indy Motor Speedway Museum, NCAA Hall of Champions museum, Medal of Honor recipient Memorial and USS Indianapolis Memorial (the ship carrying the atomic bomb elements that Quint talks about in Jaws that was sunk and the survivors attacked by sharks) all look interesting...But doors open at Hinkle 90 minutes in advance, and getting there promptly for plenty of ambience -- and to be sure the rims are indeed ten feet (who knew until Korea that one REALLY does needs to double-check that?) -- will be the main priority... www.indianapolismotorspeedway.com/history/35204-Museum/ www.ncaahallofchampions.org/index.phpwww.medalofhonormemorial.com/www.ussindianapolis.org/monument.htmYou left out that I will also be going to Creighton. Actually this weekend will be the first of five consecutive weekends in which I will be traveling to see the Hoyas. At this point I am not sure that this is a good thing given that Korea=loss, Puerto Rico = Northeastern loss and Kansas = loss. Plus, after last night I am not feeling very optistic about Butler, Creighton or MSU.
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Post by HoyaChris on Jan 8, 2014 11:51:53 GMT -5
John Thompson Jr (Coach) 68 John Thompson Jr (player)58
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Post by HoyaChris on Jan 8, 2014 10:50:20 GMT -5
Becoming more and more of a pacers fan the last few years. I'm a wizard fan by birth but they've been so aweful for decades I mostly just follow g town guys. So with the celtics in full tank mode I'm following the pacers. That said. I worry a little about this team, granger is a very good player I just don't know if he will accept his role behind Paul George. And George hill is not a true point. Would love it if they could smack down Miami this year and bring home a championship. Would be first Hoya chpionahip since Jackson with the spurs i think. Zo got a ring with the Heat in 2006.
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Post by HoyaChris on Jan 7, 2014 16:37:02 GMT -5
Yes, more explosive version of. If he is anywhere near the same defender wingate was....watch out! Wingate as a defender is pretty rarified air. With the possible exception of Gene Smith, Wingate is the best on ball defender ever for the Hoyas.
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Post by HoyaChris on Jan 7, 2014 13:02:39 GMT -5
It's only natural for folks to make comparison's MCI, we've been doing it this way for years & years.. I honestly don't see any similarities between LJ & Austin or LJ & Otto... LJ reminds me of Paul Harris from 'Cuse but with a much, much, much, much better perimeter game.. Interesting comparison to Harris. Harris was a beast on the boards and had more of a post game. I think what makes LJ comparison so challenging is that we really haven't had a player like him. He's not Otto, he's not DSR, he's not jabril. He's closer to an Aaron Bowen or a Jaren Jackson with a far better game then both. David Wingate?
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Post by HoyaChris on Jan 6, 2014 23:53:19 GMT -5
80s band Hoya Big East rivalry conversion chart Seton Hall=Spandau Ballet Boston College=A-ha UConn=Soft Cell Providence=Dream Academy Pitt=Men Without Hats St Johns=Duran Duran Villanova=Culture Club Syracuse=Wham! This is going to require some discussion... Wham fans everywhere are insulted.
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Post by HoyaChris on Jan 6, 2014 13:51:37 GMT -5
We need them to reestablish themselves as a top tier program. It would be great for our new Big East and it will also allow me to go back to hating them like I always have. The "we need them to reestablish themselves as a top tier program" line is basically synonymous with "we think you're bad, but not, like, DePaul bad" right? And b/c why the heck not at this point, let's pit generations against each other: please explain to this 31 year old why I should care about St. John's. As in: has there been anything compelling about the Georgetown-St. John's "rivalry" since 1985? I'm being serious, though a little facetious. I just don't understand why it's that big a deal. I mean, I like the 80s and all but I'm pretty sure I can just fire up an a-ha record if I want to relive 1985. I don't know that anyone has a compelling need to have a worlds-collide rivalry game with St. John's, but it would be very good for the conference if the program located in the media capital of the world could occasionally make the NCAAs.
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Post by HoyaChris on Jan 4, 2014 18:35:10 GMT -5
Kansas State just got a big win at home against Oklahoma State. K State is better than they were at the start of the season, but our blow out may be helpful at selection time.
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Post by HoyaChris on Jan 3, 2014 17:39:37 GMT -5
Michael Jackson 69 Mark Jackson 61
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Post by HoyaChris on Nov 24, 2013 5:37:07 GMT -5
The most impressive stat is the 31 minutes! Good for him... The 31 minutes is no longer a big deal. Roy has regularly been in the mid 30s in games where he needed to be on the court at the end of the game.
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