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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Nov 6, 2006 21:35:51 GMT -5
Maybe the idea is to plan a meal around the game where possible. If we're talking 8:00 tip, go to DuPont and hit a restaurant or bar there around 5:00 or even earlier, leaving enough time to get on the bus and over to the arena.
Key for getting good seats is to think of what everyone else will do and to do something contrary. Find a place with a bus route directly to Chinatown and exploit it. IIRC, there are a few stops in the area that might work.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Nov 6, 2006 21:51:26 GMT -5
I think that on balance this is a great idea. Last year it was hard for students to get on the buses before the game and the rush to get to the buses was as bad or worse than a crush on the metro. For those of you who haven't been down there - Metro runs a ton of trains at rush hour schedule to deal with the flow. At least after Wizards games they have short cut trains that go directly to the blue line from China-town. In addition students will be split between two lines and two stations. My only concern is that I hope this isn't seen as a barrier to entry to going to the games (of course that only really becomes an issue if we don't put a good product on the floor). In addition, as has already been pointed out - its a freakin' subway - the Farragut West and North stops handle more riders in an hour than will come from a Georgetown game.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Nov 6, 2006 21:52:15 GMT -5
Of the buses that pass within a few blocks of campus:
Buses that go by Dupont Metro... D2, D6, D1, G2
Buses that pass within a few blocks of Verizon -- The 30s (30, 32, 34, 35, 36), Circulator, D6, probably others.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Nov 6, 2006 21:56:01 GMT -5
Buses that pass within a few blocks of Verizon -- The 30s (30, 32, 34, 35, 36), Circulator, D6, probably others. There's the answer. If you want to get to the game and avoid any crunches presented by the new system, ride one of these things.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 6, 2006 22:26:55 GMT -5
Honestly, if you can't ride the Metro drunk (successfully), we're probably better off without you.
And if you're such an ass when you're drunk that you get arrested, that's probably for the best, too.
I can see from this thread, though, that the perceived added inconvenience could be a problem in getting lazy students to game. Not sure what to say to that; you people do realize that the distance between campus and Verizon is smaller than some dorm to class trips on large state campuses?
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Post by LizziebethHoya on Nov 6, 2006 22:54:59 GMT -5
As a student who has the fun of taking the GUTS bus to the metro station and the metro station into work during rush hour, I hate this plan. Along with the obvioius objections, it's just a hassle to get on the bus, get off the bus, get on the metro, switch metro lines, get off the metro, go to game.
Is there a better solution? I don't know. I just always appreciated the convenience that was get on bus and get off bus approach. If theres concern about students rushing to a bus after the game, its only because as soon as that batch of buses filled up, there were no more buses. Buses coming at different intervals to the Verizon center would help the problem. I was always concerned that if I didn't rush out, I wouldn't catch the bus. If I knew there were going to be a constant stream of buses, I simply wouldn't rush out.
So, I'm not a fan. But I'll wait and see.
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Post by Bahstin on Nov 6, 2006 23:06:18 GMT -5
We always just took cabs. We HATED having to wait for the busses to fill up.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 6, 2006 23:11:46 GMT -5
yes but cabs add up. i took them for a couple of games as well. but 15 verizon games x $12 for a cab to verizon / by four people comes out to $45 for a season of cabbing it to games. You can probably knock that estimate down to $39 cause i feel a lot of people won't be hear for towson and navy seeing as exams end on the 20th.
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Post by kchoya on Nov 6, 2006 23:13:35 GMT -5
Still have the GUTS bus to the law center? Take that thing down there - it's not more than a 5 minute walk to MCI. It wasn't as good as when the future wife got free parking undeneath MCI, but for the first two years of law school it worked out ok.
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Post by doublehoya on Nov 6, 2006 23:38:29 GMT -5
Honestly, if you can't ride the Metro drunk (successfully), we're probably better off without you. And if you're such an ass when you're drunk that you get arrested, that's probably for the best, too. I can see from this thread, though, that the perceived added inconvenience could be a problem in getting lazy students to game. Not sure what to say to that; you people do realize that the distance between campus and Verizon is smaller than some dorm to class trips on large state campuses? Agree 100%. Honestly, I can't believe some of the complaints I am reading. Try dealng with the beltway to get to a weeknight game at the Cap Centre in 3 inches of snow. Or (even worse) trying to get up in time to get out there for front row seats for a Saturday noon game hungover. Seriously, you guys have no idea how good you have it.
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Post by htownhoya09 on Nov 6, 2006 23:45:35 GMT -5
Personally, I don't find this very inconvenient; last year, my friends and I would use the bus that runs right behind Darnall which would bring us within about a block of the stadium. However, because basically everyone who posts on HoyaTalk is far more intense than the average fan, I think we're overlooking the negative consequences this will have on everybody else. No doubt, students will definitely be willing to use the metro to go to the big games, like UConn or Pitt, but I'm worried about our easier games. Last year, having the buses being right on campus was huge as far as getting some people to our lesser games, like USF. Although using public transportation may not seem like a big deal to most of you - rightfully so, since it really isn't relative to a lot of other things - to the casual fan, this may be what stops them from going to all the games. That's what concerns me.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Nov 6, 2006 23:46:38 GMT -5
I'm just glad that I only had to walk a couple of hundred feet to get to the games, while I was there.
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Post by michaelpittman32 on Nov 7, 2006 0:41:58 GMT -5
i'm honestly flabbergasted by the incredibly ignorant responses in this thread ... how would 12,000-16,000 at a georgetown game be more of a problem than 20,000 at a wizards game?
do georgetown students just not ride the metro? i never once took those buses when i was an undergrad, just public transportation or cabs ... it's really depressing how insular georgetown students are and how little they really get out in the city
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Post by michaelpittman32 on Nov 7, 2006 0:48:10 GMT -5
I've been taking the metro to sporting events and other things for a while in the DC area and i do think we could hit some problems. first of all while tons of people take the metro to sporting events they don't all get on at the same stop. 2. A lot of georgetown students go to the games drunk. That's not true of most people who go to games on the metro. Yes drunk people do ride the metro but not lets say 200 getting on at the same time. Problems will occur trust me. Drunk people can get arrested and lost on the metro this can't happen with the busses. I think in general it won't be a problem for the average student. There willbe great build up and people waiting that will frusterate student fans and normal metro users. Also Yes metro is a mass transit system but even during normal rush hour it is overcrowded and there often isn't enough room. I hope their talks with metro authorties means they'll be runnign extra trains during our games because if not it's going to be a mess. this may be the single most effective argument i've ever read on HoyaTalk In one succinct and lyrical paragraph you've singlehandedly torn apart this foolhardy metro program ... perhaps we should just send this over to the AD ... once they give it a glance-over I'm sure they'll immediately put a halt to the whole thing and provide personal chaffeurs for our students, who never should have to venture out from the comforting womb of georgetown into the wilds of the washington area without proper supervision
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Post by htownhoya09 on Nov 7, 2006 0:51:56 GMT -5
While, in reality, this new system may actually be better than the bus system of years past, to the average student, its gonna seem like a much bigger hassle.
MichaelPittman -
Your point is taken; we are all aware that you are an advocate of the metro system. However, your sarcasm and insults are contributing nothing to the discussion. Let's leave this crap off the boards.
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Post by LizziebethHoya on Nov 7, 2006 1:03:52 GMT -5
Exactly.
We have to remember that we are students. As much as we want to go to the games, the athletic department equally wants us to be there. It is inconvenient enough that we have to take transportation to get to a game (no on campus arena debates please, I'm just stating a fact), let alone multiple steps in said transportation process.
I have no doubt Metro will be able to handle the students. That's a no-brainer. But, in the viewpoint of STUDENTS, this is just going to be more complicated and ultimately take more time to get there. I've taken the GUTS bus to a metro station before to see if it was quicker than the buses and it was slower by about 20 minutes.
I just don't think its the best solution to the problem
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Post by miamihoya on Nov 7, 2006 1:09:40 GMT -5
i'm sorry, but this is a terrible idea...as a student, the last thing i want is to have to wait for a bus to fill up, 10 minutes to rossyln, wait for the metro, switch metro train, do it all over again after the game...how is this any better than last years system? Its gonna take at least twice as long to get to the arena, so i imagine those of us that wants good seats (and aren't in hoya blue's inner circle) are gonna have to cough up 10-15 bucks for a cab ride. I appreciate that the AD wanted to improve last year's system, but this wasnt the solution (in fact i didnt think it was that bad last year to begin with). Even the whole issue of getting the metro cards from the AD is going to be an issue. Reason #242 why we need an on-campus arena...
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Post by htownhoya09 on Nov 7, 2006 1:13:28 GMT -5
i'm sorry, but this is a terrible idea...as a student, the last thing i want is to have to wait for a bus to fill up, 10 minutes to rossyln, wait for the metro, switch metro train, do it all over again after the game...how is this any better than last years system? Its gonna take at least twice as long to get to the arena, so i imagine those of us that wants good seats (and aren't in hoya blue's inner circle) are gonna have to cough up 10-15 bucks for a cab ride. I appreciate that the AD wanted to improve last year's system, but this wasnt the solution (in fact i didnt think it was that bad last year to begin with). Even the whole issue of getting the metro cards from the AD is going to be an issue. Reason #242 why we need an on-campus arena... If you're that worried about getting there early, paying for a cab is unnecessary - just use the city's bus service, which has two stops directly behind St. Mary's and Darnall. I'm pretty sure it costs a dollar. However, the new system doesn't necessarily worry me as for as getting there early. I'm interested to see how this affects the casual fan - and I'm pretty sure it will be negative.
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Post by 3GenerationHoya on Nov 7, 2006 1:27:58 GMT -5
Several times during the last few seasons, I rode buses that took alternate routes to or from the phonebooth, and ended up taking much longer than a metro ride would have because they got stuck in traffic. With the metro, students won't have to worry about leaving the bus to walk to the nearest metro station to take a train to the game in order to make the tip off as i did twice. Getting significantly more buses to a high-profile weeknight game during rush hour could actually end up being slower than sending students on the metro. Obviously, the new plan is not perfect, but I hope it does not add too much extra time to a fan's commute.
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Post by CAHoya07 on Nov 7, 2006 1:49:50 GMT -5
Basically, the new system seems like it is: 1) Extra GUTS buses; and 2) Free Metro Cards.
Is this really that complicated? I can deal with this. Sure, it'd be nice if we could still have the comfort of a school bus to and from 7th and F, but as the front page states, with 2700 students having some form of season tickets, it could be a disaster. I'll take this system. Hopefully it works out.
And besides, from a purely selfish standpoint, this change doesn't affect me, since I generally take the Metro to and from every game to begin with.
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