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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 11, 2024 12:10:32 GMT -5
This team still needs to gel and a win against ND would give them a lot of confidence. The TCU lost happened at a critical time of the team’s development last year….we need a different trajectory for this team. I do not want to put too much on one game. Hopefully, if we don't win, this team is more mentally resilient than last year's showed at times. But yeah, it'd be big to win this one. |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 11, 2024 12:14:49 GMT -5
I'm really excited for this game. It will be fascinating to see how Sorber does against quality big men in Njie and Davis. If he has another big game, my optimism may become unbridled. Mack and Epps have had a slow start. I'd like to see them gel a bit more this game. I want to see more of Burks. I hope he can stay on the floor more. He has more potential than I expected. I'm loving Peavy's defense. He provides so much that doesn't show up in the box score. Can't wait for Saturday! It's a big test for everyone. We've shown good flashes of defense, including rebounding, against smaller and weaker teams. Here we have a likely bubble team that seems good at shooting and has some more mature bigs (if not a super big team) ... what holds up and what wilts? It's still very early for our team. We know there's still plenty of upside on defensive positioning and rotation. There was a massive jump in just the number of offensive sets and plays we ran from game 1 to game 2 (seriously, game 1 was like 90% weave and then something ... there was a lot of good stuff in game 2). So I don't think we should think we can't improve from whatever we do next Saturday. But if Sorber is just as good, or if our defense holds up, or if we are still getting easy buckets ... that's a very good sign. Beating ND would also be the first game where we overperformed our stat projections. |
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Nov 11, 2024 16:57:23 GMT -5
I would think our ability to disrupt open looks and cover/contest the 3-point line on defense is one of the keys to the game.
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 11, 2024 17:56:22 GMT -5
From the South Bend Tribune prior to tonight's game against Buffalo: Notre Dame returns four starters off last year’s team that finished 13-20 overall, 7-13 and tied for 12th in the Atlantic Coast Conference. The Irish were picked this preseason to finish 10th in the 18-team ACC....After leading the team in minutes as a freshman last season, guard Markus Burton played a team-high 31.43 against Stonehill. ... The low-post trio of Kebba Njie, Nikita Konstantynovskyi and Garrett Sundra combined for 15 points and 16 rebounds in the opener. ... Forward Tae Davis saw his consecutive games streak dating back to last season of scoring double figures end at seven. Davis had nine points and five rebounds in 17 minutes on Wednesday. www.southbendtribune.com/story/sports/college/basketball/2024/11/11/notre-dame-mens-basketball-hosts-buffalo-what-you-need-to-know/75916000007/ |
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Post by hoyas315 on Nov 11, 2024 19:49:59 GMT -5
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Post by traversb on Nov 11, 2024 21:15:42 GMT -5
If Tyson Dunn would have rolled his ankle in the layup line ND would be coming to DC off a loss. They are very beatable but we have to play much better than we have so far.
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Post by conshyhoya on Nov 11, 2024 21:31:19 GMT -5
Here is some good news... The Fighting Irish shot 47.5% from 3 in their first game. Cooley has a full week to focus on better defense of the 3-point shot. He is an opportunity to help the players figure it out. Well there should be good film out there on what to do as they only shot 25% tonight. |
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Post by prhoya on Nov 11, 2024 21:57:32 GMT -5
Here is some good news... The Fighting Irish shot 47.5% from 3 in their first game. Cooley has a full week to focus on better defense of the 3-point shot. He is an opportunity to help the players figure it out. Well there should be good film out there on what to do as they only shot 25% tonight. Farifield and Lehigh had bad 3-pt shooting games right before playing GU and had excellent shooting games vs. Cooley’s defense. Does the pattern continue? |
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Post by prhoya on Nov 11, 2024 22:14:12 GMT -5
Another good press conference for Cooley and the boys! I’m putting it here to see if the team learns and comes out en fuego or at least playing with Cooley’s three Es… |
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Post by jwp91 on Nov 12, 2024 9:28:06 GMT -5
Looking at ND's statistical profile through two games....
ND looks like a good shooting team both from inside and outside the arc.
Their strength in scoring is their guards.
Defensively, they give up a lot of points from behind the arc.
Opponents can get offensive rebounds.
They are not a big steal or turnover team.
Their pace is slower than average.
KenPom adjusted our odds of winning from 51% to 54% after their second game.
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Post by jwp91 on Nov 12, 2024 9:54:31 GMT -5
Also, their 3 is their least potent offensive starter. It might be a a good game to put Peavy on Burton and let Mack cover Konieczny. Burton has averaged 18.5 points, 6.0 rebounds, and 6.5 assists. Putting Peavy on Burton would force them to find someone else to beat us.
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Post by smokeyjack on Nov 12, 2024 10:25:37 GMT -5
Mack needs to improve his distribution game. His passing has stunk the first two games. If we get anything from him on drive & kick situations even average shooters should be good enough. This was the Brumbaugh game last year. He played well that game. Just have to focus on gelling as a D unit and playing inside out. Agree 100% - I was really hoping he would be more of a facilitator - still don't see anyone resembling "that guy." To date Mack has simply been another Epps - not remotely what we need. In fact, the rest of the group has been roughly what I expected with a pleasant surprise in Sorber; he has a chance to be elite - enormous upside with his combo of size and athleticism. But I was really hoping Mack would be a high-IQ floor general and not a high-volume, high-usage option. We already have at least two of those. Sigh... |
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Nov 12, 2024 10:27:57 GMT -5
Mack needs to improve his distribution game. His passing has stunk the first two games. If we get anything from him on drive & kick situations even average shooters should be good enough. This was the Brumbaugh game last year. He played well that game. Just have to focus on gelling as a D unit and playing inside out. Agree 100% - I was really hoping he would be more of a facilitator - still don't see anyone resembling "that guy." To date Mack has simply been another Epps - not remotely what we need. In fact, the rest of the group has been roughly what I expected with a pleasant surprise in Sorber; he has a chance to be elite - enormous upside with his combo of size and athleticism. But I was really hoping Mack would be a high-IQ floor general and not a high-volume, high-usage option. We already have at least two of those. Sigh... It's game three however. The kid came from a program where he was asked to do it all. Now he is being asked (presumably) to fit in a bit differently. I'm sure he will figure it out. He does have some serious quicks and some creative moves so I think he will get there. |
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Post by smokeyjack on Nov 12, 2024 11:12:43 GMT -5
Agree 100% - I was really hoping he would be more of a facilitator - still don't see anyone resembling "that guy." To date Mack has simply been another Epps - not remotely what we need. In fact, the rest of the group has been roughly what I expected with a pleasant surprise in Sorber; he has a chance to be elite - enormous upside with his combo of size and athleticism. But I was really hoping Mack would be a high-IQ floor general and not a high-volume, high-usage option. We already have at least two of those. Sigh... It's game three however. The kid came from a program where he was asked to do it all. Now he is being asked (presumably) to fit in a bit differently. I'm sure he will figure it out. He does have some serious quicks and some creative moves so I think he will get there. Perhaps. Down deep I think kids are wired as score-first or assist-first. I'm sure most probably see that as a gross oversimplification...and I'll admit it is. But I was hoping Mack was the latter, because I think it's very tough to fundamentally reverse that predilection. |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 12, 2024 11:35:44 GMT -5
It's game three however. The kid came from a program where he was asked to do it all. Now he is being asked (presumably) to fit in a bit differently. I'm sure he will figure it out. He does have some serious quicks and some creative moves so I think he will get there. Perhaps. Down deep I think kids are wired as score-first or assist-first. I'm sure most probably see that as a gross oversimplification...and I'll admit it is. But I was hoping Mack was the latter, because I think it's very tough to fundamentally reverse that predilection. Of course, most of this board were also pretty certain that Epps couldn't reduce his usage, but so far he has. I think Mack right now is a bit overwhelmed. He's not really in the flow of our game -- he looks like he's not comfortably running the offense but rather running plays with pre-determined decisions and then doing it. It's leading to a lot of suspect decisions. Could that be that he's simply a complete gunner? Yes. It could also be that he's running plays rather than reading what's in front of him. Something I think that has helped Epps and will help Mack here is to have them run more two man games with the bigs. Right now, I don't want to see anyone dribble down against a set defender without some kind of screening / picking action. Both Epps and Mack can, but our two man game has worked so well. Some of that is opponent, but let's give our guys the passing options. Also, if he starts hitting more open threes, we'll feel better about him as well. |
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Post by jwp91 on Nov 12, 2024 12:11:09 GMT -5
Also, their 3 is their least potent offensive starter. It might be a a good game to put Peavy on Burton and let Mack cover Konieczny. Burton has averaged 18.5 points, 6.0 rebounds, and 6.5 assists. Putting Peavy on Burton would force them to find someone else to beat us. A further thought....if Mack can't handle Konieczny defensively, I would be tempted to tweak the line-up to have Curtis or McKenna play the 3 with Peavy playing PG....but that is just me. |
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 12, 2024 12:39:39 GMT -5
Also, their 3 is their least potent offensive starter. It might be a a good game to put Peavy on Burton and let Mack cover Konieczny. Burton has averaged 18.5 points, 6.0 rebounds, and 6.5 assists. Putting Peavy on Burton would force them to find someone else to beat us. A further thought....if Mack can't handle Konieczny defensively, I would be tempted to tweak the line-up to have Curtis or McKenna play the 3 with Peavy playing PG....but that is just me. The mere fact that we can have discussions about several believable options for defending other teams' best offensive threats is an uprgade. |
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Post by MCIGuy on Nov 12, 2024 13:52:58 GMT -5
Also, their 3 is their least potent offensive starter. It might be a a good game to put Peavy on Burton and let Mack cover Konieczny. Burton has averaged 18.5 points, 6.0 rebounds, and 6.5 assists. Putting Peavy on Burton would force them to find someone else to beat us. I was thinking more along the lines of having Peavy guard the coach’s son, but maybe defending Burton is the better option. |
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 12, 2024 14:36:00 GMT -5
Good watch, they're definitely beatable...
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Post by jwp91 on Nov 12, 2024 14:42:53 GMT -5
Also, their 3 is their least potent offensive starter. It might be a a good game to put Peavy on Burton and let Mack cover Konieczny. Burton has averaged 18.5 points, 6.0 rebounds, and 6.5 assists. Putting Peavy on Burton would force them to find someone else to beat us. I was thinking more along the lines of having Peavy guard the coach’s son, but maybe defending Burton is the better option. I chose Burton because of his scoring, rebounding and assists. He is a highly productive player for them. If Peavy could take him out of the game, it would cause a lot of disruption to how they usually play. Burton is also 5'11" and would have a 9 inch difference to deal with. |
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