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Post by harlemhoya on Nov 9, 2024 18:45:52 GMT -5
Interestingly, Mulready had 11 minutes compared to Curtis' 6. The seeds have been planted for a three guard rotation. Mulready is going to play a ton of minutes with Mack or Epps. You don’t need to play 9 /10 guys in a 40 minute basketball game. |
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Post by jwp91 on Nov 9, 2024 18:52:15 GMT -5
Interestingly, Mulready had 11 minutes compared to Curtis' 6. The seeds have been planted for a three guard rotation. Mulready is going to play a ton of minutes with Mack or Epps. You don’t need to play 9 /10 guys in a 40 minute basketball game. You don't but I liked the way Cooley substituted the whole line when the starters came out flat. I do think there is a role for both Mulready and Curtis who appears to have exceptionally long arms in addition to being our tallest guard. |
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Post by zxhoya on Nov 9, 2024 18:58:49 GMT -5
Strong effort on the defensive end the second half. But the offense will have to be better to beat Notre Dame next weekend. We need to get a bit more out of Mack. Sorber can’t carry us against teams with comparable size. Still good to see us execute down the stretch and not let them get it down to a one possession game where a few lucky bounces could turn into a bad loss as we’ve seen in prior years. Pure conjecture sir, lol. I put no limitations on that freshman, can't wait to see him take on the many different challenges. |
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Post by zxhoya on Nov 9, 2024 19:18:13 GMT -5
Definitely a big improvement from the last game in regard to helping the helper. When the Bigs go to cover the middle/rim on penetration, there was very little help baseline last game which allowed dump offs for layups or putbacks weakside. Seemingly much better today but I'll look forward to rewatch to actually pay attention.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Nov 9, 2024 19:19:45 GMT -5
Best announcing duo I have heard since Raf and Gus Scott Graham did play by play. He's a long time veteran of Philadelphia area sports, covering the Phillies, Penn football, and Villanova basketball in prior assignments. He's a steady voice which doesn't go overboard and steers clear of some of the bias which leaks into local announcers from Creighton and Xavier. Dave Leitao was the analyst. He's a retired coach (Virginia, DePaul) and there's some good money available if he can land as an analyst, but college basketball analysts have tended to either be very analytical (Billy Packer, Len Elmore, Jay Bilas et al.) or personalities who amp it up during games (Al McGuire, Dick Vitale, and for some Big East audiences, Steve Lappas and Pete Gillen). Leitao seems to land in that first category, which makes sense because you can't hype up early season, lower wattage games like this. With more Big East games going to new media outlets, it's a growth market for PBP and analysts. nypost.com/2024/11/04/sports/john-fanta-joining-nbc-sports-as-network-increases-college-basketball-coverage/www.instagram.com/royhibbert55/p/DBeFQ_5Okvw/ |
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Post by zxhoya on Nov 9, 2024 19:32:19 GMT -5
Best announcing duo I have heard since Raf and Gus Scott Graham did play by play. He's a long time veteran of Philadelphia area sports, covering the Phillies, Penn football, and Villanova basketball in prior assignments. He's a steady voice which doesn't go overboard and steers clear of some of the bias which leaks into local announcers from Creighton and Xavier. Dave Leitao was the analyst. He's a retired coach (Virginia, DePaul) and there's some good money available if he can land as an analyst, but college basketball analysts have tended to either be very analytical (Billy Packer, Len Elmore, Jay Bilas et al.) or personalities who amp it up during games (Al McGuire, Dick Vitale, and for some Big East audiences, Steve Lappas and Pete Gillen). Leitao seems to land in that first category, which makes sense because you can't hype up early season, lower wattage games like this. With more Big East games going to new media outlets, it's a growth market for PBP and analysts. nypost.com/2024/11/04/sports/john-fanta-joining-nbc-sports-as-network-increases-college-basketball-coverage/www.instagram.com/royhibbert55/p/DBeFQ_5Okvw/Leitao easily goes towards the top of the BE broadcast analyst after seeing him just once, really liked him. |
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Post by harlemhoya on Nov 9, 2024 19:37:34 GMT -5
Scott Graham did play by play. He's a long time veteran of Philadelphia area sports, covering the Phillies, Penn football, and Villanova basketball in prior assignments. He's a steady voice which doesn't go overboard and steers clear of some of the bias which leaks into local announcers from Creighton and Xavier. Dave Leitao was the analyst. He's a retired coach (Virginia, DePaul) and there's some good money available if he can land as an analyst, but college basketball analysts have tended to either be very analytical (Billy Packer, Len Elmore, Jay Bilas et al.) or personalities who amp it up during games (Al McGuire, Dick Vitale, and for some Big East audiences, Steve Lappas and Pete Gillen). Leitao seems to land in that first category, which makes sense because you can't hype up early season, lower wattage games like this. With more Big East games going to new media outlets, it's a growth market for PBP and analysts. nypost.com/2024/11/04/sports/john-fanta-joining-nbc-sports-as-network-increases-college-basketball-coverage/www.instagram.com/royhibbert55/p/DBeFQ_5Okvw/Leitao easily goes towards the top of the BE broadcast analyst after seeing him just once, really liked him. Fanta is a train wreck. He will get found out pretty soon. |
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Post by BeantownHoya on Nov 9, 2024 19:42:43 GMT -5
I really liked what I saw from McKenna...I hope he doesn't get turned off by some limited minutes this season, he is without a doubt this teams starting SF next year...you can see the talent
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Post by DFW HOYA on Nov 9, 2024 19:49:55 GMT -5
Fanta is a train wreck. He will get found out pretty soon. He's not an analyst, he's play by play and there's a market for "personality plus" in that segment: not necessarily a Gus Williams, but a Kevin Harlan, for example. Fanta arrives at the right time because a lot of network announcers are at or past retirement age (Al Michaels, Bob Costas, Jim Nantz, Gary Danielson, Chris Berman, the entire Fox NFL pre-game show, etc.) and the younger announcers (Joe Buck, Mike Tirico, Chris Fowler) are not far behind--Fowler is 62, Tirico 57. The aforementioned Harlan is 64. John Fanta is just 28. He's got time to address the rough edges. |
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Post by harlemhoya on Nov 9, 2024 20:06:04 GMT -5
Fanta is a train wreck. He will get found out pretty soon. He's not an analyst, he's play by play and there's a market for "personality plus" in that segment: not necessarily a Gus Williams, but a Kevin Harlan, for example. Fanta arrives at the right time because a lot of network announcers are at or past retirement age (Al Michaels, Bob Costas, Jim Nantz, Gary Danielson, Chris Berman, the entire Fox NFL pre-game show, etc.) and the younger announcers (Joe Buck, Mike Tirico, Chris Fowler) are not far behind--Fowler is 62, Tirico 57. The aforementioned Harlan is 64. John Fanta is just 28. He's got time to address the rough edges. Joe Davis is now 36 and killed it in his 20’s. Ryan Ruocco is now 37 and also killed it in his 20’s Noah Eagle is 27 and a future star. Fanta is a social media host and has no business being on tv. Awful cadence and broadcast mechanics. Terrible voice, zero feel, doesn’t understand timing and he yells for no reason. You either have it or you don’t. He ain’t got it. Sorry to hijack the thread. |
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Post by hoyarooter on Nov 9, 2024 20:16:40 GMT -5
I thought our defensive intensity in the second half was generally excellent. Hopefully not every team will make five threes in the first 8 minutes against us.
Why did Fielder not play? Did he pick up an injury/illness? I can't believe he's already been benched.
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 9, 2024 20:21:52 GMT -5
I thought our defensive intensity in the second half was generally excellent. Hopefully not every team will make five threes in the first 8 minutes against us. Why did Fielder not play? Did he pick up an injury/illness? I can't believe he's already been benched. Illness, wasn't at the game on the bench. |
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Post by zxhoya on Nov 9, 2024 20:25:48 GMT -5
Fanta is a train wreck. He will get found out pretty soon. He's not an analyst, he's play by play and there's a market for "personality plus" in that segment: not necessarily a Gus Williams, but a Kevin Harlan, for example. Fanta arrives at the right time because a lot of network announcers are at or past retirement age (Al Michaels, Bob Costas, Jim Nantz, Gary Danielson, Chris Berman, the entire Fox NFL pre-game show, etc.) and the younger announcers (Joe Buck, Mike Tirico, Chris Fowler) are not far behind--Fowler is 62, Tirico 57. The aforementioned Harlan is 64. John Fanta is just 28. He's got time to address the rough edges. I had to Google him to make sure exactly who he was, He's OK, I don't dislike him. He seems likeable enough, has a unique voice and has a passion for the game and like DFW said, has time to improve. |
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Post by zxhoya on Nov 9, 2024 20:35:09 GMT -5
He's not an analyst, he's play by play and there's a market for "personality plus" in that segment: not necessarily a Gus Williams, but a Kevin Harlan, for example. Fanta arrives at the right time because a lot of network announcers are at or past retirement age (Al Michaels, Bob Costas, Jim Nantz, Gary Danielson, Chris Berman, the entire Fox NFL pre-game show, etc.) and the younger announcers (Joe Buck, Mike Tirico, Chris Fowler) are not far behind--Fowler is 62, Tirico 57. The aforementioned Harlan is 64. John Fanta is just 28. He's got time to address the rough edges. Joe Davis is now 36 and killed it in his 20’s. Ryan Ruocco is now 37 and also killed it in his 20’s Noah Eagle is 27 and a future star. Fanta is a social media host and has no business being on tv. Awful cadence and broadcast mechanics. Terrible voice, zero feel, doesn’t understand timing and he yells for no reason. You either have it or you don’t. He ain’t got it. Sorry to hijack the thread. This is definitely a subjective thing, and you like who ya like or don't like. I'm unfortunately a Washington Wizards fan and the local broadcast team, imo, are the worst. I always wind up muting just to watch but something is lost with the sound muted. |
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Post by hoyaroc on Nov 9, 2024 20:35:13 GMT -5
I missed the game today. It looks like Sorber had a great game. Keep up the winning Hoyas.
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Post by thedragon on Nov 9, 2024 21:13:24 GMT -5
Positives
Second half Defense was actually excellent. If offense could've gotten anything going this would've been a 20+ blowout.
Sorber. My goodness. Best Hoya freshman since?
Depth. This team has a lot more options than previous seasons. Mulready, Burks/Fielder (whichever doesn't start when Fielders healthy), Curtis Williams, McKenna, Julius H. All look like they will contribute this season.
Peavys Defense. His on-ball D is the best since?
Bigs that can shoot. When's the last time we had multiple bigs that can shoot. Julius, Thomas and Drew all can shoot the 3 which should pay major dividends as the season progresses.
Negatives.
The guards. Epps and Mack feel off and maybe that's to be expected. Feels like Mack is pressing a bit and Epps is still feeling out when to be aggressive and when to move the ball. The on court chemistry should improve with reps.
Shooting. Hopefully the guards settling in will help improve that metric but through two games it's been an expected sore spot that has proven out.
Transition. We are woeful in transition. With a quick PG and multiple plus athletes this needs to become a strength. Especially if shooting the 3 in the halfcourt is a weakness. I think we've thrown 5+ alley oops in 2 games and not connected yet.
Turnovers. Way too sloppy and most can be pinpointed to the bullets above.
Start of game. Can't afford to be sleepwalking to start next week.
Overall, feels good to be 2-0 AND watch a team that feels miles ahead talent wise then anything we've seen in several years with a budding freshman stud bringing back echoes of BigManU. It's nice to be excited to watch a Gtown basketball game again, at least for me. Huge test next Saturday. A chance to really get some momentum going and position yourself to be 8-0 when you head to Weat Virginia (yes I'm getting way ahead of myself)
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Nov 9, 2024 21:22:21 GMT -5
Gotta start games better. The first 5 minutes have been a disaster both games so far. Otherwise, a pretty solid game. Epps/Mack have to reel in the turnovers.
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Post by bluegray79 on Nov 9, 2024 21:37:06 GMT -5
I thought our defensive intensity in the second half was generally excellent. Hopefully not every team will make five threes in the first 8 minutes against us. Why did Fielder not play? Did he pick up an injury/illness? I can't believe he's already been benched. Agree about the defense in second half. Goal now is to start the game the way we started the second half and bring that intensity and pressure the entire game. Was also curious about Fielder. Figured he must be injured or sick -- I didn't see him on the bench or in any camera sweeps of the sidelines either. May have missed him. Hope he's o.k. - I want him in there. Love his game. |
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Post by bluegray79 on Nov 9, 2024 21:44:49 GMT -5
Re: Fielder. WaPo article about the game says that Fielder has been sick this week. Hope he recovers soon to get strong for the ND game.
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Post by concord on Nov 9, 2024 22:55:49 GMT -5
I missed the 13-5 run because FS2 was prioritizing a scowling Pitino closing out Quinnipiac. From there, the Hoyas played them even and then dominated the game despite often sloppy play. This is my favorite Hoya team in a while.
The second unit that came in to steady the ship has a ton of potential. Julius is a legit NBA prospect. Mulready claims a rotation spot. Curtis Williams is explosive. Fantastic to see minutes for McKenna. I appreciate that we are scheduling teams that are much more experienced and cohesive, but aren’t close to the Hoyas’ talent level. Some of the lineups we put out have played almost no meaningful minutes of college basketball.
Sorber’s scoring and rebounding numbers don’t do justice to the scope of his contributions. He made sweet passes, steals, running out to block a 3 point shot.
Peavy is like a low drama Marcus Smart. Some of his defensive plays are exhilarating. He probably shoots more than you want him to, but he can knock down shots. There was a sequence in the first half where he was in the mix for five or six plays in a row on both ends; and making an equal number of fantastic plays and crazy mishaps.
This team is not good at outside shooting overall (the big men are good, for big men), but Epps was wide open in the corner in transition multiple times, and Mack and Peavy are attacking the basket 2- or 3-on-1 instead. The exception was the end of the first half, and Epps drained the shot.
With Sorber, Peavy, Epps and Mack, I think we have 4 legit BE starters who can battle it out this year and maybe be in the mix for a lot more the year after. Who is the 5th starter? I love our lineup 1-10, but not really sure of that 5th spot.
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