conshyhoya
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Post by conshyhoya on Nov 26, 2024 11:50:07 GMT -5
Maybe. Sorber clearly has a high ceiling. I think Mack will improve -- he has the quickness and handle. The question is whether the finishing at the rim comes quickly enough or at all. There's just multiple question marks past the top three, primarily defensively. And offensively, I wish there were more question marks, but if there's potential for a guy like Burks, it's not this year. Teams do come together, and I don't know if we should really look at the Ewing years as a reason why Georgetown can't. But it's just sooooo many questions. But that said ... if Mack can figure it out and we can get one more guy ... that might be enough to be something this year. I think if Mack figures it out that helps someone like Fielder who has started out poorly offensively at least. Fielder still needs some work on defense but once we get to power conference teams that have more size he may fair better than these smaller quicker teams.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Nov 26, 2024 12:28:49 GMT -5
Said elsewhere, but a lot of the team's season success will depend on Mack's development.
I really like his upside. I see a lot of speed, length, and hops. It just hasn't translated into good decision-making and finishing shots yet.
I can see him turning a corner in December/January and the team's results taking off in a positive direction.
There's a fair amount of pressure on him early to transfer in, take the reins, and run the show. A little more confidence and allowing the game to "slow-down" could do wonders.
I'm very optimistic about Mack. But after 5 games, Cooley should probably be thinking about contingencies, running different lineups that don't feature Mack as the primary catalyst/ball handler/decision-maker.
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hoyariv71
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Post by hoyariv71 on Nov 26, 2024 13:08:20 GMT -5
Said elsewhere, but a lot of the team's season success will depend on Mack's development. I really like his upside. I see a lot of speed, length, and hops. It just hasn't translated into good decision-making and finishing shots yet. I can see him turning a corner in December/January and the team's results taking off in a positive direction. There's a fair amount of pressure on him early to transfer in, take the reins, and run the show. A little more confidence and allowing the game to "slow-down" could do wonders. I'm very optimistic about Mack. But after 5 games, Cooley should probably be thinking about contingencies, running different lineups that don't feature Mack as the primary catalyst/ball handler/decision-maker. I see more of a peavy running the point if Mack really struggles
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bostonfan
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Post by bostonfan on Nov 26, 2024 13:36:34 GMT -5
Said elsewhere, but a lot of the team's season success will depend on Mack's development. I really like his upside. I see a lot of speed, length, and hops. It just hasn't translated into good decision-making and finishing shots yet. I can see him turning a corner in December/January and the team's results taking off in a positive direction. There's a fair amount of pressure on him early to transfer in, take the reins, and run the show. A little more confidence and allowing the game to "slow-down" could do wonders. I'm very optimistic about Mack. But after 5 games, Cooley should probably be thinking about contingencies, running different lineups that don't feature Mack as the primary catalyst/ball handler/decision-maker. I think Mack will improve as the year moves along, and then make a bigger jump next year. He has OK height and good length for a PG, and his quickness and handles are quite good. At this point I think it is just getting used to the speed and physicality of teams he is playing against, although most of the teams the Hoyas have played so far are not high major D1 teams yet. I think another year of strength and conditioning will really help with his finishing near the rim.
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Post by dariantownesvanzandt on Nov 26, 2024 15:04:32 GMT -5
For those who need reminding:
Tyler Kolek's 1st four games vs. 200+ KP opponents at Marquette: 8p, 5.25a, 2.75to, 23.3% FG, 11.7% 3FG
Malik Mack's at GU: 10.75p, 4.5a, 3.5to, 37.5% FG, 21.4 3FG
Imagine the vitriol if Malik goes for 3.8 ppg on 18.2% shooting for the whole month of December, like Tyler did that year.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Nov 26, 2024 16:51:54 GMT -5
Said elsewhere, but a lot of the team's season success will depend on Mack's development. I really like his upside. I see a lot of speed, length, and hops. It just hasn't translated into good decision-making and finishing shots yet. I can see him turning a corner in December/January and the team's results taking off in a positive direction. There's a fair amount of pressure on him early to transfer in, take the reins, and run the show. A little more confidence and allowing the game to "slow-down" could do wonders. I'm very optimistic about Mack. But after 5 games, Cooley should probably be thinking about contingencies, running different lineups that don't feature Mack as the primary catalyst/ball handler/decision-maker. What’s interesting about Mack and why I think he’ll be a lot better is that, as a freshman at Harvard, he killed Harvard’s November OOC opponents, which were better teams than the ones he has faced as a Hoya so far. He was averaging more than 20 ppg with similar usage to this year. Some around here think that he’s facing better competition as a Hoya. Not true. Go check Harvard’s schedule in November 2023. So, it’s something else. Maybe it’s because he was the man there even as a freshman, and now he has to share shots and plays with Epps, Peavy and Sorber, and he’s still getting used to it. But, whatever it is, Cooley and the staff have to figure it out and teach/coach him into being a more efficient player.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 26, 2024 17:37:13 GMT -5
What’s interesting about Mack and why I think he’ll be a lot better is that, as a freshman at Harvard, he killed Harvard’s November OOC opponents, which were better teams than the ones he has faced as a Hoya so far. He was averaging more than 20 ppg with similar usage to this year. Some around here think that he’s facing better competition as a Hoya. Not true. Go check Harvard’s schedule in November 2023. So, it’s something else. Maybe it’s because he was the man there even as a freshman, and now he has to share shots and plays with Epps, Peavy and Sorber, and he’s still getting used to it. But, whatever it is, Cooley and the staff have to figure it out and teach/coach him into being a more efficient player.[/quote] We're working with an incredibly small sample size.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Nov 26, 2024 18:14:42 GMT -5
I've seen Mack attempt at least 10 layups/short jumpers in these first 5 games that a more confident, balanced player will not miss. With his speed, length, and hops, he created separation, got into the lane, and produced a very high-quality shot (that for some reason was missed).
If these high-quality shots start converting, and he gets more comfortable within the offense, stops forcing, and limits the turnovers, I really see some great upside.
I'm a believer.
If he starts to roll, everyone else will follow.
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hoyariv71
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Post by hoyariv71 on Nov 26, 2024 18:33:59 GMT -5
We were up by 9 for 2 straight possessions last game and Mack missed back to back shots to put us up double digits, more confidence and he’s hit these and be really good. The nice thing about the year so far,Mack is our 4 option on offense, behind Peavy, Epps and Sorber. I think we all thought, or at least I did, he or Epps would lead team in scoring. The nice talent and schedule will alllow Mack time to adjust
I’m a believer
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Nov 26, 2024 22:29:16 GMT -5
What’s interesting about Mack and why I think he’ll be a lot better is that, as a freshman at Harvard, he killed Harvard’s November OOC opponents, which were better teams than the ones he has faced as a Hoya so far. He was averaging more than 20 ppg with similar usage to this year. Some around here think that he’s facing better competition as a Hoya. Not true. Go check Harvard’s schedule in November 2023. So, it’s something else. Maybe it’s because he was the man there even as a freshman, and now he has to share shots and plays with Epps, Peavy and Sorber, and he’s still getting used to it. But, whatever it is, Cooley and the staff have to figure it out and teach/coach him into being a more efficient player. We're working with an incredibly small sample size. Yep, that’s why I used November 2023.
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