24-25 Hoya Basketball

[thedragon]

Nice to see the players engaged with Hoya Twitter (and mocking the roster mishap)

[jackofjoy]

Nov 10, 2024 10:04:50 GMT -5 thedragon said:

Nov 10, 2024 9:02:36 GMT -5 DanMcQ said:

The repertoire Sorber shows in this clip is salivating and wildly ahead of schedule for a freshman. Backside seal and finish. Jabstep baseline jumper. Pick N roll for a catch and finish. Pick and pop for a 3. Dribble, spin, right hand hook. I hope they're collecting NIL for next year now - it's going to cost a Brinks truck.

Full caveats being that 1) NO, I am not saying he's going to be a Final Four MOP, 15 year HOF pro averaging 20 and 10 and 2) he's a freshman so of course he's going to have some upcoming learning experience games when he gets exposed for being too slow, too weak, too young ... but I'm sensing a tiny bit of Olajuwon in his game (ok, less maybe 25% athleticism)

[jwp91]

Per Evan Maya

Way to early, lineup statistics

Best Two Man Combination
J. Epps / M. Peavy

Best Three Man Combination
Jo. Burks / Ja. Epps / Mi. Peavy

Best Four Man Combination
Ja. Epps / Ju. Halaifonua / Ma. Mack / Mi. Peavy

Best Five Man Lineup
Ja. Epps / Dr. McKenna / Mi. Peavy / Th. Sorber / Cu. Williams

[jwp91]

Something I don't understand....

Through two games, Evan Miya's NET BPR has Sorber as our 6th best player. Sorber is slightly ahead of Julius. Drew is the 2nd highest on the team after Peavy.

I am not sure that this statistic is resonating with my eyes and review.

Meanwhile, according to College Basketball Reference - Sorber has the highest Offensive Rating on the team of the big-minute players and close to the lowest Defensive Rating.

[MCIGuy]

Nov 10, 2024 14:33:49 GMT -5 jwp91 said:

Something I don't understand....

Through two games, Evan Miya's NET BPR has Sorber as our 6th best player. Sorber is slightly ahead of Julius. Drew is the 2nd highest on the team after Peavy.

I am not sure that this statistic is resonating with my eyes and review.

Meanwhile, according to College Basketball Reference - Sorber has the highest Offensive Rating on the team of the big-minute players and close to the lowest Defensive Rating.

Hard to figure out.

[SFHoya99]

Nov 10, 2024 14:33:49 GMT -5 jwp91 said:

Something I don't understand....

Through two games, Evan Miya's NET BPR has Sorber as our 6th best player. Sorber is slightly ahead of Julius. Drew is the 2nd highest on the team after Peavy.

I am not sure that this statistic is resonating with my eyes and review.

Meanwhile, according to College Basketball Reference - Sorber has the highest Offensive Rating on the team of the big-minute players and close to the lowest Defensive Rating.

He doesn't publish his exact math, and I'm not going to pay for the premium tier, either to dig in.

However, he claims he incorporates things like efficiency, plus/minus, but also strength of teammates and strength of opponents. Given that general set up, two games is way too small a sample, especially since the competitive aspect also has issues.

I think there's a pretty good chance that the player ratings have some pre-season ranking still in them (it's suspiciously close to the pre-season rankings). The defensive numbers are going to be harder to pin down, but I don't see how his offensive rating is that low.

That said, D rating is blech. Sorber's 27% D rebounding rate is going to give him relatively undue credit for positive defensive play -- it's just a terrible failing of the stat.

TLDR; It may be a useless stat ... or it may be too early to get a good read.

[hoyaguy]

www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/11/09/georgetown-hoyas-basketball-fairfield-thomas-sorber/

I don't have a subscription but since it is brought up often about local coverage of the program

[MCIGuy]

Nov 10, 2024 22:59:18 GMT -5 hoyaguy said:

www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/11/09/georgetown-hoyas-basketball-fairfield-thomas-sorber/

I don't have a subscription but since it is brought up often about local coverage of the program

Patrick Stevens fills in for Hoya home games if it doesn’t get in the way of his Terp coverage. He has done solid writeup for the first two Georgetown games.

[bills]

But in the on-line edition his stories Ave a very short lifetime. No sign of them the next morning.

[SSHoya]

Nov 11, 2024 9:27:35 GMT -5 bills said:

But in the on-line edition his stories Ave a very short lifetime. No sign of them the next morning.

Frankly, it's the same with most sports stories. You can always find them if you look. Found both writeups thís morning online using the search function. Pretty normal practice for online editions.

Thomas Sorber looks the part as Georgetown earns its second straight win

www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/11/09/georgetown-hoyas-basketball-fairfield-thomas-sorber/

Sorber scores 20 in Georgetown's 85-77 victory over Lehigh

www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/2024/11/06/lehigh-georgetown/c3373070-9cbd-11ef-b90e-a2320192900f_story.html

[RusskyHoya]

georgetownvoice.com/section/sports/basketball-issue-2024/

georgetownvoice.com/2024/11/08/mens-basketball-looks-to-take-a-step-forward-in-cooleys-second-season/

If you’re looking for players who could outperform expectations, though, look no further than the only senior on this roster, guard Micah Peavy. Coming to Georgetown from a 2023–24 tournament team in TCU, Peavy is known primarily for his defensive prowess as well as his connective ability to be a “glue guy” on offense. If the staff, and Peavy himself, are to be believed, it would not be surprising to see Peavy take his game to the next level in his final season at the collegiate level. In addition to his traditional role as a wing stopper, Peavy is expected to see backup minutes at point guard behind sophomore guard Malik Mack. “You’re going to see some things that you haven’t seen on clips,” Peavy said in an interview with the Voice at Georgetown basketball’s media day.

Not exactly a stirring prediction of success here

While it is fair to question the value of continuity for a team that struggled as much as Georgetown last year, it is also true that teams as young and inexperienced as this one rarely find major success. This team does not have an all-world prospect like Duke freshman forward Cooper Flagg, or a projected top-5 NBA draft pick with European professional experience like Illinois guard Kasparas Jakučionis, who can carry the load for other similarly inexperienced teams. As such, it will be an uphill battle for Georgetown to even sniff the NCAA tournament this season. Despite it feeling like the last four or so years have been nothing but “rebuilding years,” this may be yet another.

[jwp91]

I hope Peavy can challenge Kalbrenner for DPOY. It would be a tall order but I don't know why it couldn't happen.

[jwp91]

I had been curious what Epps + Mack's usage was going to be fearing something in the 55-60% range. So far it is, it is 44.8% with Sorber leading the team at 31.1%. There is balance among the starting 5 except Sorber stealing some of Burks' share.

[Ranch Dressing]

I would only add that it's premature to rely on player efficiency data after only 2 games, especially since we missed Fielder in game 2 and Julius in game 1 was coming in after some time off with injury.

10 games or so should give us a better read on this kind of stuff.

[bluegray79]

There are only a few times this year where there's a week between games, and this is one of them. Not liking it.

images.app.goo.gl/HvybxUDfsVj9JiUx6

[jwp91]

Nov 11, 2024 16:51:59 GMT -5 Ranch Dressing said:

I would only add that it's premature to rely on player efficiency data after only 2 games, especially since we missed Fielder in game 2 and Julius in game 1 was coming in after some time off with injury.

10 games or so should give us a better read on this kind of stuff.

Agree that all the statistics are too early to be relied upon, but trends start somewhere.