EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Sept 11, 2024 8:55:34 GMT -5
Defensive, maybe. What are you seeing that I'm missing offensively? From what I've seen he is a decent spot up wing 3pt shooter. Didn't get a lot of those chances with Kentucky but looking at his high school video and AAU stuff he did hit some. He may have improved in that regard. 12/45 from 3 @ OTE in 22-23 regular season(10 games). 1 of 8 in the playoffs overtimeelite.com/players/5b12cb82-5423-45a0-85da-3bdb59e4907b/2022-2023%20Season
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Post by thedragon on Sept 11, 2024 12:55:32 GMT -5
He put up 27 a game with OTE. He's got offensive upside. More consistent J and tighter handle are most pressing offensive development needs.
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Post by blueandgray on Sept 11, 2024 13:52:23 GMT -5
One thing is sure…Cooley is going to have far more viable options off the bench this year than he did last. Dare I say this team is deep?
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Post by jwp91 on Sept 11, 2024 16:41:08 GMT -5
One thing is sure…Cooley is going to have far more viable options off the bench this year than he did last. Dare I say this team is deep? Totally agree on paper, but we are so young, we need to see who is ready to play on the court.
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Post by bluegray79 on Sept 11, 2024 18:14:20 GMT -5
Yes, yes, and yes. I am expecting that our athleticism, depth, and versatility will balance out our youth and relative inexperience. I hope that the balance will slowly lean to our strengths as the season progresses. I'm sure that's the hope of the coaches and team anyway.
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Post by hoyajmw on Sept 11, 2024 20:18:48 GMT -5
I hope you don’t mean there will be no more fiesta in the stands but I fear that is indeed what is happening…🤦🏻♂️ Say it ain’t so… I am fiesta adjacent as Andrew from the Ticket Office did a good job of keeping the party going! You could say we're keeping the band together! As much as some folks complain about Athletic Department responsiveness, the Ticket Office including Steve Alleva when he was in charge, have been extremely helpful to me. Steve managed to transfer my season tickets to my seat mate when I was deployed to the Middle East! Agree completely re: the ticket office. Steve left big shoes to fill and Andrew had what must have been/still is a VERY difficult job, with results and decisions above his head that haven't made the job any easier to be sure. It has been a LONG LONG time since season ticketholders have had reason to be "gruntled" and just happy to be there.
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Post by bluegray79 on Sept 11, 2024 21:09:50 GMT -5
I am fiesta adjacent as Andrew from the Ticket Office did a good job of keeping the party going! You could say we're keeping the band together! As much as some folks complain about Athletic Department responsiveness, the Ticket Office including Steve Alleva when he was in charge, have been extremely helpful to me. Steve managed to transfer my season tickets to my seat mate when I was deployed to the Middle East! Agree completely re: the ticket office. Steve left big shoes to fill and Andrew had what must have been/still is a VERY difficult job, with results and decisions above his head that haven't made the job any easier to be sure. It has been a LONG LONG time since season ticketholders have had reason to be "gruntled" and just happy to be there. Also agree with ticket office kudos. I only have dealt with Andrew and he is the man. Bends over backwards to make it work for the fans.
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Post by dense on Sept 12, 2024 9:40:15 GMT -5
I saw videos from the year before OTE and AAU videos on YouTube. He tried a few in both most of his buckets were off the dribble which he did none of at Kentucky. I didn't claim he had a great percentage just that he showed decent form. Ote games are worse than AAU games. It's just highlights but nothing in these videos tells me he can't shoot. Take for instance last year everyone was saying Epps can't shoot. His stats from last year would say he is bad shooter. I take from watching him all last year he is a bad volume shooter but when he is taking the right looks he is a very good shooter. Until we get eyes on Burks I take stats with a grain of salt. He hit 2-5 last year with Kentucky. I don't expect him to hit over 40% either.
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Post by EtomicB on Sept 12, 2024 9:51:13 GMT -5
I'm begging Cooley not to get caught up in this PC drama this season.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Sept 12, 2024 9:54:59 GMT -5
I saw videos from the year before OTE and AAU videos on YouTube. He tried a few in both most of his buckets were off the dribble which he did none of at Kentucky. I didn't claim he had a great percentage just that he showed decent form. Ote games are worse than AAU games. It's just highlights but nothing in these videos tells me he can't shoot. Take for instance last year everyone was saying Epps can't shoot. His stats from last year would say he is bad shooter. I take from watching him all last year he is a bad volume shooter but when he is taking the right looks he is a very good shooter. Until we get eyes on Burks I take stats with a grain of salt. He hit 2-5 last year with Kentucky. I don't expect him to hit over 40% either. Random thought...that I am not saying is just mine...but watching guys like Burks and Peavy and hopefully with the length of guys like McKenna, Sorber, etc ...man it would be nice to just be average defensively and get some easy breakouts for hoops. When your defense is as awful as ours has been and you have to constantly create offense from a half court set it's bound to run into cold stretches...what a game changer it would be to get a few more fast break points
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Post by EtomicB on Sept 12, 2024 10:10:45 GMT -5
I saw videos from the year before OTE and AAU videos on YouTube. He tried a few in both most of his buckets were off the dribble which he did none of at Kentucky. I didn't claim he had a great percentage just that he showed decent form. Ote games are worse than AAU games. It's just highlights but nothing in these videos tells me he can't shoot. Take for instance last year everyone was saying Epps can't shoot. His stats from last year would say he is bad shooter. I take from watching him all last year he is a bad volume shooter but when he is taking the right looks he is a very good shooter. Until we get eyes on Burks I take stats with a grain of salt. He hit 2-5 last year with Kentucky. I don't expect him to hit over 40% either. He shot 7 of 42 in EYBL the year before Dense. www.thecircuithoops.com/roster_players/54403258I agree that his form looks solid on his makes but the stats do not lie, not for him or Epps(103-333 in his career). I hope both turn it around and become consistent 33-37% shooters from 3 over their remaining time with Gtown but for now, they're question marks when it comes to 3pt shooting.
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Post by EtomicB on Sept 12, 2024 10:12:35 GMT -5
I saw videos from the year before OTE and AAU videos on YouTube. He tried a few in both most of his buckets were off the dribble which he did none of at Kentucky. I didn't claim he had a great percentage just that he showed decent form. Ote games are worse than AAU games. It's just highlights but nothing in these videos tells me he can't shoot. Take for instance last year everyone was saying Epps can't shoot. His stats from last year would say he is bad shooter. I take from watching him all last year he is a bad volume shooter but when he is taking the right looks he is a very good shooter. Until we get eyes on Burks I take stats with a grain of salt. He hit 2-5 last year with Kentucky. I don't expect him to hit over 40% either. Random thought...that I am not saying is just mine...but watching guys like Burks and Peavy and hopefully with the length of guys like McKenna, Sorber, etc ...man it would be nice to just be average defensively and get some easy breakouts for hoops. When your defense is as awful as ours has been and you have to constantly create offense from a half court set it's bound to run into cold stretches...what a game changer it would be to get a few more fast break points Agreed, it would be nice to see the ball being constantly pushed in transition this season
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Sept 12, 2024 11:50:40 GMT -5
I saw videos from the year before OTE and AAU videos on YouTube. He tried a few in both most of his buckets were off the dribble which he did none of at Kentucky. I didn't claim he had a great percentage just that he showed decent form. Ote games are worse than AAU games. It's just highlights but nothing in these videos tells me he can't shoot. Take for instance last year everyone was saying Epps can't shoot. His stats from last year would say he is bad shooter. I take from watching him all last year he is a bad volume shooter but when he is taking the right looks he is a very good shooter. Until we get eyes on Burks I take stats with a grain of salt. He hit 2-5 last year with Kentucky. I don't expect him to hit over 40% either. He shot 7 of 42 in EYBL the year before Dense. www.thecircuithoops.com/roster_players/54403258I agree that his form looks solid on his makes but the stats do not lie, not for him or Epps(103-333 in his career). I hope both turn it around and become consistent 33-37% shooters from 3 over their remaining time with Gtown but for now, they're question marks when it comes to 3pt shooting. That is a really bad % for both. I hope for Epps that shot selection improves that %. He was forced into taking a lot of bad shots as he was the offense. HOpefully some inside scoring and kick outs will improve that. Same for this kid. If you can just be more selective and know what is a shot you should hit vs. trying to force things, that can make all the difference in the world.
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Post by seaweed on Sept 12, 2024 11:57:14 GMT -5
I saw videos from the year before OTE and AAU videos on YouTube. He tried a few in both most of his buckets were off the dribble which he did none of at Kentucky. I didn't claim he had a great percentage just that he showed decent form. Ote games are worse than AAU games. It's just highlights but nothing in these videos tells me he can't shoot. Take for instance last year everyone was saying Epps can't shoot. His stats from last year would say he is bad shooter. I take from watching him all last year he is a bad volume shooter but when he is taking the right looks he is a very good shooter. Until we get eyes on Burks I take stats with a grain of salt. He hit 2-5 last year with Kentucky. I don't expect him to hit over 40% either. He shot 7 of 42 in EYBL the year before Dense. www.thecircuithoops.com/roster_players/54403258I agree that his form looks solid on his makes but the stats do not lie, not for him or Epps(103-333 in his career). I hope both turn it around and become consistent 33-37% shooters from 3 over their remaining time with Gtown but for now, they're question marks when it comes to 3pt shooting. That video doesn’t show his misses and maybe he takes a lot of sketchy shots, but the form is there and he can get ther outside shot off quickly. Accuracy can be improved if he has strong mechanics and he sure appears to in the few looks in that vid.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Sept 12, 2024 12:05:57 GMT -5
Hey, he shot 40% from three last year. (2-5 in case anyone wants to know). I don't really see the offense with Burks, but I see the defensive potential. Offensively, though, I don't know how he really competes with a trio of near 7' (and a 7') who can all move, shoot, pass, face up, etc. At some point, potential/ceiling needs to be a reasonable likelihood of reaching it -- at least 10% -- and asking a player like Burks to develop a shot, passing and a dribble drive game good enough to be a real wing seems far farther from likelihood than what I saw out of Fielder, who already shots 40% from three last year, Sorber or Halaifonua (who looks to have a fantastic pick and pop and pick and roll game). I'm sure he can get to decent or maybe even good over time, but there's just a lot that has to go right. Whereas Fielder already had a 123 O Rating last year as a freshman -- I get that he may not shoot 40% from three again, but his usage wasn't low, he was good at 2s and FTs, he's not turnover prone. Add a couple of post moves, some strength and enough defense to stay on the floor and it's much easier to see an offensive star, IMO.
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Post by jwp91 on Sept 12, 2024 12:39:09 GMT -5
I saw videos from the year before OTE and AAU videos on YouTube. He tried a few in both most of his buckets were off the dribble which he did none of at Kentucky. I didn't claim he had a great percentage just that he showed decent form. Ote games are worse than AAU games. It's just highlights but nothing in these videos tells me he can't shoot. Take for instance last year everyone was saying Epps can't shoot. His stats from last year would say he is bad shooter. I take from watching him all last year he is a bad volume shooter but when he is taking the right looks he is a very good shooter. Until we get eyes on Burks I take stats with a grain of salt. He hit 2-5 last year with Kentucky. I don't expect him to hit over 40% either. Lol...I misread part of your post, and I thought you were arguing he couldn't shoot after watching a video in which he didn't miss....in true HoyaTalk fashion. Burks is an interesting player. His profile reminds me of Pickett...someone you can just see the tremendou potential... if he can ever put it together.
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Post by hoyaguy on Sept 12, 2024 13:33:20 GMT -5
Not to side track, but is Seal definitely reclassing? I guess unless there is an announcement (unlikely) we won't know if he is redshirting, or not. I hope someone can get that question in before the season starts. If Seal redshirts, I would choose to take that as a sign of confidence in our front court situation and if not, I am excited to see him play.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Sept 12, 2024 13:56:13 GMT -5
Not to side track, but is Seal definitely reclassing? I guess unless there is an announcement (unlikely) we won't know if he is redshirting, or not. I hope someone can get that question in before the season starts. If Seal redshirts, I would choose to take that as a sign of confidence in our front court situation and if not, I am excited to see him play. If did not reclassify to 2024, he won't be on the roster. Georgetown has been very murky on non-injury basketball redshirts (I can't recall it's ever happened) so it's too early to say. McKenna was a greenshirt.
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Post by blueandgray on Sept 12, 2024 21:57:02 GMT -5
Seal is on campus. He is redshirting….only 17 years old…youngest kid on the team and coming off an injury.
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Post by hoyaguy on Sept 12, 2024 22:36:27 GMT -5
Seal is on campus. He is redshirting….only 17 years old…youngest kid on the team and coming off an injury. That is definitely the right move then. Letting him take his time to recover and develop.
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