SDHoya
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Post by SDHoya on Aug 8, 2024 11:05:40 GMT -5
He is a friend of Cam Bacote. Went to Western Carolina with him. Also I believe we helped with his waiver. I think he is coming. He is a lot like Supreme Cook in his game but able to guard better. x.com/_HoyaParanoia_/status/1821343663097544849?t=A87ZX8P6v27PrA_v671mKQ&s=19That last highlight of him putting Bacot of UNC under the rim. We need to retain that energy just cause it will get Thomas better. The block on primo in that clip is fun
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Post by BeantownHoya on Aug 8, 2024 11:08:38 GMT -5
Sorry either a typo or I wasn't clear...I absolutely consider Mack the starting PG...
What I was trying to say...when Mack is not on the floor I would want Epps to never be the PG...but would rather have a back-up true PG filling that role for 10 minutes...
I would prefer Epps always be off ball as much as possible...so thus why I was saying if the choice was between adding more frontcourt depth or possible another ball handler/PG I might lean towards the latter...
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 8, 2024 11:14:55 GMT -5
Sorry either a typo or I wasn't clear...I absolutely consider Mack the starting PG... What I was trying to say...when Mack is not on the floor I would want Epps to never be the PG...but would rather have a back-up true PG filling that role for 10 minutes... I would prefer Epps always be off ball as much as possible...so thus why I was saying if the choice was between adding more frontcourt depth or possible another ball handler/PG I might lean towards the latter... Agree. And almost never take that step back three pointer! I don't have his shooting % on those but my recall is that it wasn't good.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Aug 8, 2024 12:24:17 GMT -5
He is a friend of Cam Bacote. Went to Western Carolina with him. Also I believe we helped with his waiver. I think he is coming. He is a lot like Supreme Cook in his game but able to guard better. x.com/_HoyaParanoia_/status/1821343663097544849?t=A87ZX8P6v27PrA_v671mKQ&s=19That last highlight of him putting Bacot of UNC under the rim. We need to retain that energy just cause it will get Thomas better. Good overall profile especially for a depth type guy. His offensive rating was a very solid 114.4 last year, he doesn’t take a ton of shots, and he had the tenth best offensive rebound rate nationally last year (Cook was 9th). I say sign him up as long as he won’t stifle other guys’ growth. To add to my own post, he also turned 24 this summer. So he'd provide an older influence on what is otherwise a very young team. And he's got a 24 year old man's body. While I think as a general matter guys this old continuing to play in college is silly, we might as well take advantage of it while it lasts. It also makes sense that he's a late bloomer of sorts. In 2020, he tore his ACL and meniscus and sprained his MCL and PCL. That's why he did not play in the 2020-2021 and barely played in the 2021-2022 season.
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conshyhoya
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Post by conshyhoya on Aug 8, 2024 13:39:18 GMT -5
Your points are valid, just a difference of opinion on my end. I think the primary ball handler role has evolved over time. Now, its all about who you put in the PNR and thats not always the PG. Some of the others are capable of bringing the ball up the court and finding whoever they want in the PNR. I would just ideally love for Epps to forever be off the ball. I think it will do wonders for not only the team but for him and right now I assume he will be the back at PG unless Mulready is ready. Epps coming of screens, a few wide open looks...would be so great for this team. Again I don't disagree with you either I absolutely see the desire to have a veteran presence in that frontcourt and honestly just simply another veteran on the team in general I thought Cooley mentioned using Peavy occasionally. Peavy himself calls himself a guard and if Cooley is thinking about using him in that position you would think he knows how his handle is and if he can be effective.
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wolveribe
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Post by wolveribe on Aug 8, 2024 16:23:29 GMT -5
Peavy is a capable ball handler. His usage at TCU would have been 3rd here (slightly behind Roman). Not a super high assist or shot taker but certainly capable of handling the ball for a few possessions a game.
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hoyaguy
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Post by hoyaguy on Aug 8, 2024 17:19:07 GMT -5
Peavy is a capable ball handler. His usage at TCU would have been 3rd here (slightly behind Roman). Not a super high assist or shot taker but certainly capable of handling the ball for a few possessions a game. Sounds good enough to me along with the other youth. I understand the desire to have another pg, but realistically anyone that can be a stable hand pg in P6 ball is going to want minutes and/or money.
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bluegray79
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Post by bluegray79 on Aug 9, 2024 16:00:07 GMT -5
So much has happened and so much to respond to, and all of it good. But the most prominent thought that comes to me daily is how different things are in just year 2 from a year ago. So - a quick bit of backstory: I have a kid who will be a senior on the Hilltop this coming year. He sat through Ewing's last 2 years and EC's first. At about this time before each of the past 3 seasons I would be talking about how the Hoyas are going to be so much better, they're brining in a few studs, and they're going to recapture some of their past glory, etc., etc. It didn't take too long before my sad & deep self-delusion was more and more evident -- and the team stayed mired in the near basement of the BE. And then I'd do it again the next year and get our hopes up and, well you get it. Tragic and sad.
This year, though, I think we are going to be a serious team and a team that will demand to be taken seriously. The only glaring shortcoming is that we are so young. Still, look at what EC & staff have done! We have some real depth, some serious athleticism, some kids with something to prove, some dawgs who belong in the Big East. I am always an over-excited hopeful fan, but this year I feel like we're going to really enjoy the group of men who take the floor in November! I love the type of players we're seeing who are signing on to what EC is building, love the whole feel and look of this team. It's not just a few semi-promising transfers and 5 months of watching games with my fingers crossed. I can't wait to see these guys play! And the Big East looks deeper and more stacked that ever -- not great for us, but we will be battle-tested. Looking forward to it all and to jumping back in here with all of you to get behind them and enjoy Hoya basketball again! Let's goooooo!!!!
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Post by hoyarooter on Aug 9, 2024 18:21:34 GMT -5
So much has happened and so much to respond to, and all of it good. But the most prominent thought that comes to me daily is how different things are in just year 2 from a year ago. So - a quick bit of backstory: I have a kid who will be a senior on the Hilltop this coming year. He sat through Ewing's last 2 years and EC's first. At about this time before each of the past 3 seasons I would be talking about how the Hoyas are going to be so much better, they're brining in a few studs, and they're going to recapture some of their past glory, etc., etc. It didn't take too long before my sad & deep self-delusion was more and more evident -- and the team stayed mired in the near basement of the BE. And then I'd do it again the next year and get our hopes up and, well you get it. Tragic and sad. This year, though, I think we are going to be a serious team and a team that will demand to be taken seriously. The only glaring shortcoming is that we are so young. Still, look at what EC & staff have done! We have some real depth, some serious athleticism, some kids with something to prove, some dawgs who belong in the Big East. I am always an over-excited hopeful fan, but this year I feel like we're going to really enjoy the group of men who take the floor in November! I love the type of players we're seeing who are signing on to what EC is building, love the whole feel and look of this team. It's not just a few semi-promising transfers and 5 months of watching games with my fingers crossed. I can't wait to see these guys play! And the Big East looks deeper and more stacked that ever -- not great for us, but we will be battle-tested. Looking forward to it all and to jumping back in here with all of you to get behind them and enjoy Hoya basketball again! Let's goooooo!!!! The one thing you didn't mention was how your son responded to your annual enthusiasm, and how he is responding this year.
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Post by sportsastroguy on Aug 9, 2024 18:57:18 GMT -5
This team has the POTENTIAL to be top 35 this year if they can be cohesive. One thing about Cooley is he doesn't talk just to talk. It seems that way when things don't go the way WE see them. When he inferred at the end of the season that he would recruit aggressively, he has done that by whatever means possible. He went big time and had no takers then he shifted gears and got more of the style of player he's gotten in the past. Interestingly, he's also gotten a couple long, athletic guys too which is nice. Would love to see another PG type but i do think that KM can run point if needed, and he might be working on that. Side note it's no secret on Twitter that I like Austin Montgomery the player - give the man a scholarship, coach!
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 9, 2024 19:34:17 GMT -5
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Aug 9, 2024 19:42:31 GMT -5
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jwp91
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Post by jwp91 on Aug 9, 2024 20:24:41 GMT -5
Caleb Williams at 6'7" is now the 5th shortest person on the team.
Players who are taller than Caleb on this year's roster
Fort Peavy McKenna Burks Sorber Fielder Hanakanou Diouf
Players who are shorter
Mack Epps Mulready Curtis Williams
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Post by DFW HOYA on Aug 9, 2024 20:32:57 GMT -5
Caleb Williams at 6'7" is now the 5th shortest person on the team. Players who are taller than Caleb on this year's roster Fort Peavy McKenna Burks Sorber Fielder Hanakanou Diouf If Fort redshirts, he wouldn't be on the 2024-25 roster.
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bluegray79
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Post by bluegray79 on Aug 9, 2024 22:02:55 GMT -5
So much has happened and so much to respond to, and all of it good. But the most prominent thought that comes to me daily is how different things are in just year 2 of Cooley from a year ago. So - a quick bit of backstory: I have a kid who will be a senior on the Hilltop this coming year. He sat through Ewing's last 2 years and EC's first. At about this time before each of the past 3 seasons I would be talking about how the Hoyas are going to be so much better, they're bringing in a few studs, and they're going to recapture some of their past glory, etc., etc. It didn't take too long before my sad & deep self-delusion was more and more evident -- and the team stayed mired in the near basement of the BE. And then I'd do it again the next year and get our hopes up and, well you get it. Tragic and sad. This year, though, I think we are going to be a serious team and a team that will demand to be taken seriously. The only glaring shortcoming is that we are so young. Still, look at what EC & staff have done! We have some real depth, some serious athleticism, some kids with something to prove, some dawgs who belong in the Big East. I am always an over-excited hopeful fan, but this year I feel like we're going to really enjoy the group of men who take the floor in November! I love the type of players we're seeing who are signing on to what EC is building, love the whole feel and look of this team. It's not just a few semi-promising transfers and 5 months of watching games with my fingers crossed. I can't wait to see these guys play! And the Big East looks deeper and more stacked that ever -- not great for us, but we will be battle-tested. Looking forward to it all and to jumping back in here with all of you to get behind them and enjoy Hoya basketball again! Let's goooooo!!!! The one thing you didn't mention was how your son responded to your annual enthusiasm, and how he is responding this year. Like your follow through, HR. He's into following the team and going to as many games as he can. The Syracuse game here under Ewing 21-22 that was like old times with Kayden Rice hitting a key three and Aminu going off on the Orange, big loud crowd -- he got a taste of it and liked it. Still he's a college kid and takes most of what his dad throws his way with wry humor and a healthy dose of one eyebrow raised. OTOH, he treks to Cap One and gets crazy in the student section. Can't tell where he is on this year yet. I send him all the tweets, links and updates. He likes getting them, but I think the season is too far away. He has a summer to finish, a move back to DC, and a semester to consume him before he can clear his plate for Hoya basketball. I think he is going to be pretty pumped by what he sees. Updates as they happen. Hoya Saxa.
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kghoya
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Post by kghoya on Aug 10, 2024 6:18:55 GMT -5
Caleb Williams at 6'7" is now the 5th shortest person on the team. Players who are taller than Caleb on this year's roster Fort Peavy McKenna Burks Sorber Fielder Hanakanou Diouf If Fort redshirts, he wouldn't be on the 2024-25 roster. The listed McKenna last season despite not playing.
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jwp91
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Post by jwp91 on Aug 10, 2024 8:59:49 GMT -5
Caleb Williams at 6'7" is now the 5th shortest person on the team. Players who are taller than Caleb on this year's roster Fort Peavy McKenna Burks Sorber Fielder Hanakanou Diouf If Fort redshirts, he wouldn't be on the 2024-25 roster. Ok. But this doesn’t change anyone’s height or how many people are shorter than Caleb…..which is just a more humorous way to say that the median height on the team is 6’8”. Is is also the mode. *Thank you Dr. Winkler.) We are getting close to being about to play a version o the 1989 flying Illini, but with 6’8” guys instead
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Post by hoyasaxaphone on Aug 10, 2024 10:12:05 GMT -5
*Othmar !! reference!!
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Post by thedragon on Aug 10, 2024 11:43:13 GMT -5
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hoyaguy
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Post by hoyaguy on Aug 10, 2024 16:19:51 GMT -5
I honestly thought it was going to be the Georgia Tech transfer. Very interesting moves and glad he will be redshirting. I hope it speaks to the vision Cooley has built that he can get players to buy into and redshirting can hopefully increase retainment even if they aren’t playing competitively yet. What’s the offseason grading now? Even if it’s not over “yet”, I’m gonna go with a B+.
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