SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 25, 2024 19:43:49 GMT -5
Expecting any staff to bat 1.000 is just unreasonable. The problem that often goes overlooked on here is that Cooley assembled an awful transfer class last year. He part scouted bad and part handled some to the point they didn't want to stay. There will be people that give him excuses but they are just that excuses. If you look at that class and this class and there are a lot of similarities on philosophy. In my mind he went 0 for 5 last year but that is just because I think Epps is a net negative. For the sake of argument we can say he went 1/5 and that is not including Grant because I am not sure he was on scholarship. I said before last season started all we had to do was not be awful last season and this offseason should be alright. We ended up being awful. That is not to say this transfer class is going to be bad. I don't put a ton of weight on transfer rankings. I do know it shows that players with good options for the most part aren't comfortable coming here and that's a problem. God forbid we throw up another bottom 3 Big East season this year. Our transfer season last year was not great last year but from everything I've heard, we had absolutely zero NIL infrastructure in place and Cooley had very little time. The level of difficulty was very high. Still, I would argue that Epps and Styles were clear good pick ups, and I don't think Rowan was a bad pickup. The fact that we did not retain either is not a knock on the transfer class in terms of evaluating players and securing them. Cook was not an effective player though we've seen the market for bigs is tight. Massoud was a terrible miss. Still, that's not a terrible rate and I'm pretty convinced we were working at a big disadvantage time and money-wise. And we know our program is at its depths in terms of winning and rep. This year's class will be a better estimation of Cooley's scouting and ability to recruit. We've missed on a big, so that's a guaranteed negative, but I'm pretty confident in Mack and Peavy. The big question is whether Williams and Burks take a step forward and contribute at a decent level, or not. |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 25, 2024 20:17:42 GMT -5
So rumors spread by 2 or 3 members of another pay site are enough to come over here and besmirch a 20-year old's character on a much more public message board? Well-done, MCI, stay classy. Anything to protect the Almighty Ed Cooley. How moronic. I made it clear that this young man did not do anything unethical or illegal and pointed out that in the end, if rumors were true, that it was possibly better for Cooley to push him along. It’s not as if I created a new thread with Rowan’s name in order to bring a lot of attention to the situation. In the meantime here you are giving thumbs up to folks who are blindly suggesting that Cooley is stupid by chasing off players for reasons that must be inexcusable. And there are even more posts by people making conclusions in regards to dudes trying to jack up their value far more than they are worth even though there is no certainty if this is actually true. Are you objecting to any of that? No. So sit down and find another thread to poison with your unending negativity. Don't even pay him any mind, MCI. Boya's a troll. And since a huge % of his posts are bagging on teenagers for years on end, multiple posts a day, for the simple crime of boya not thinking they were good in high school, or getting recruited instead of someone he liked, what he thinks is classy is hardly relevant. What offended him about your post is that it didn't crucify Cooley. That's all. |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 25, 2024 20:20:47 GMT -5
Rowan was sick of playing with Epps and how Epps had an unlimited leash. Gotta love that you hate Epps so much you just straight out made that up. Why would anyone believe anything you write? I'll put you down with your favorite as poster as people who will clearly lie to win an internet argument. |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 25, 2024 20:24:55 GMT -5
If he was set on leaving, why would he ask the Hoyas to increase their NIL offer. I am in the camp that the Hoyas could have had him if we wanted him. Styles wouldn't be the first person to revise their narrative to make more sense given a specific outcome. It doesn't matter. We don't know his price, we don't know our budget, and we don't know how that would have affected other players. Was it right? Was it wrong? We don't have anywhere near the information to know. And if one is going to be super critical, one also has to admit that it probably requires an understanding at that time that we were going to get shut out of big men. Which ... okay. |
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Post by prhoya on Jun 27, 2024 10:29:07 GMT -5
I can't possibly respond to all of this and we are not going to agree but the above I will not let go... You don't realize how much an anomaly NC State's season and run was? It was literally historically/statistically one of the more miraculous runs in ACC/NCAA tournament history. They were not only not a Top 25 team they were not even a bubble team. They lost 10 of their last 14 regular season games. They had a losing record in the ACC. They won 5 games in 5 days in the ACC tournament as an underdog in all but 1 game beating the #1, #2 and #3 ACC seeds to a title. They then won against multiple higher seeds in the NCAA with the exception of one game losing in the Final Four to a 1 seed. So YES I am going to go out on a ledge and say that is not a formula for success and that will never happen again in NCAA history. If it does happen again please by all means throw it in my face...I will be waiting. That's ok, I don't need to... I know we all want GU to win. Anyway, I realize how much of an anomaly NC St's season was. It reminded me of other improbable runs like Ewing's contract-extending BET Championship run. We had lost by a lot to UConn coming into the BET. Imagine the odds on that GU run. It will be interesting to see if Keatts can do it again. His formula for success with the changing rules was fundamentally betting on upperclass experience, and that's where Styles fits in. |
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Post by EtomicB on Jun 27, 2024 15:00:00 GMT -5
Building Blocks..
Kinda questioning Mulready not knowing how to play spades though.. Haha
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Post by EtomicB on Jun 27, 2024 15:04:37 GMT -5
Our old friend
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Post by jackofjoy on Jun 27, 2024 17:10:04 GMT -5
Building Blocks.. Kinda questioning Mulready not knowing how to play spades though.. Haha You know they're still new on campus ... in 3 months their favorite thing to do in DC will be visiting Howard ... |
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jun 28, 2024 8:32:34 GMT -5
Does anybody know what he said? |
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Post by EtomicB on Jun 28, 2024 10:27:22 GMT -5
Does anybody know what he said? It was mainly to hype the Maryland series Gtow just agreed to.. He made a point to say that he's running the show & that he wasn't brought in to stick to the status quo. Not sure what that means but I look forward to the status quo ending within the program |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jun 28, 2024 12:20:51 GMT -5
Me too.
And we know where all the blame goes if it doesn't work.
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Post by prhoya on Jun 28, 2024 13:33:02 GMT -5
Does anybody know what he said? It was mainly to hype the Maryland series Gtow just agreed to.. He made a point to say that he's running the show & that he wasn't brought in to stick to the status quo. Not sure what that means but I look forward to the status quo ending within the program New: Mentioned that he didn’t really know a lot about the old feud between GU and Maryland and said he didn’t care about it. That he respected feelings here, but he is in charge and that he’s doing what he wants. Willard and Cooley are good friends. Talked about how “Kevin” (Willard) wanted the series to start sooner and Cooley said hell, no! The interviewer asked him why and Cooley said because of the team he has. Said he knew he would be in transition until the third year. Said that he likes the players. No question re: more transfers. As Whipple (a.k.a., PhillyHoya) put it: www.casualhoya.com/2024/6/21/24183093/coach-jeff-battle-freshman-transfers-defense-ed-cooley-mack-epps-peavy-fielder-mckenna-georgetown#comments“With the transfer portal a constant threat to roster stability in the future, Battle offered no clear path forward, leaving fans with more questions than answers about the upcoming season and beyond.” |
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 29, 2024 3:07:34 GMT -5
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Post by hoyas315 on Jul 1, 2024 15:01:46 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 1, 2024 21:00:34 GMT -5
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Post by guru on Jul 2, 2024 16:42:41 GMT -5
Well, this is a depressing list. I’ve seen our current situation compared to Louisville’s on other college basketball sites, and this shows that aside from recent on-court trajectory, we’re not in the same stratosphere as Louisville. Not even close.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jul 2, 2024 17:30:50 GMT -5
Well, this is a depressing list. I’ve seen our current situation compared to Louisville’s on other college basketball sites, and this shows that aside from recent on-court trajectory, we’re not in the same stratosphere as Louisville. Not even close. There is one Big East team on that list - national champ UConn, near the bottom. Ya think there might be a correlation there?? |
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Post by jackofjoy on Jul 2, 2024 17:39:35 GMT -5
Well, this is a depressing list. I’ve seen our current situation compared to Louisville’s on other college basketball sites, and this shows that aside from recent on-court trajectory, we’re not in the same stratosphere as Louisville. Not even close. There is one Big East team on that list - national champ UConn, near the bottom. Ya think there might be a correlation there?? Top 5 NIL bag tho! So says Johnny Fanta and some campus bloggers! 3-2-1 Fireballs! |
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Post by TC on Jul 2, 2024 17:50:45 GMT -5
Louisville in 2022-2023 was 2-18 and was 3-17 in 2023-2024. I'm skeptical of any accounting that has them as #1 in revenue for 2023.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 2, 2024 18:19:28 GMT -5
Well, this is a depressing list. I’ve seen our current situation compared to Louisville’s on other college basketball sites, and this shows that aside from recent on-court trajectory, we’re not in the same stratosphere as Louisville. Not even close. These numbers are not altogether accurate, in that the site is taking numbers off the EADA reports and calling it "revenue" when it's not. The financial statements of the Louisville athletic department ( read here) report 2022-23 revenue closer to $22 million. That said, UofL is a revenue machine at the KFC Yum Center thanks to a lease so favorable, the school has incresaed its payments largely to keep the arena from going into receivership. In its 2021 documentation, U of L pays rent of just 10 percent of tickets sold, 12 percent on suite rentals, 50 percent on concessions, and 50 percent of parking, which brings in a lot of revenue even in a bad year, which 2022-23 was for the Cardinals (4-28), which still outdrew the 2022-23 Hoyas by more than double (12,497 per game vs. 5,442). Put another way, Louisville collects 90 percent of ticket revenue, 88 percent of all suite rental, 50 percent on concessions, 50 percent on parking. Pit 20,000 people in the building and that's some serious revenue. And Georgetown? As to Capital One Arena, GU is a day-tenant, paying a fee whether there's 2,500 or 20,500 in the building, with 0 percent from suite rental income, and likely 0 percent parking, and 0 percent concessions in Monumental-managed locations. When Georgetown can fill the building, that's good for GU and good for Monumental. When Georgetown can't, it's bad for Georgetown but still good for Monumental. But for all that revenue, Louisville still posted a $30 million operating loss for the athletic department in 2023, and owes $62 million remaining on bonds issued for the renovation of Cardinal Stadium (now the generically named "L&N Federal Credit Union Stadium") when it joined the ACC. This is why TV rights fees mean so much for these schools as they are the only way out of the debt commitments they have made. The school also collects $25 per student per semester for an athletics fee, but Louisville isn't as big a school as you would think. It reports just 11,266 full time undergraduates. |
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