EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on May 16, 2024 10:21:47 GMT -5
I haven’t heard Cooley or staff say anything This is an issue in & of itself if we're being honest. Coach could easily speak about the new commits to the program. But I'm sure we'll hear from EC in a few weeks when the team gets back for the summer sessions
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Post by wolveribe on May 16, 2024 10:27:27 GMT -5
Did they publicly negotiate? Are you pretending we didn't have a DD watch going over the last few days? We had a random, unverifited twitter user make a claim and a bunch of posters and twitter handles running with it. Are we calling that the school publicly negotiating?
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Post by EtomicB on May 16, 2024 10:35:29 GMT -5
Are you pretending we didn't have a DD watch going over the last few days? We had a random, unverifited twitter user make a claim and a bunch of posters and twitter handles running with it. Are we calling that the school publicly negotiating? Do you think Gtown wasn't recruiting DD? If so we can agree to disagree.
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Post by wolveribe on May 16, 2024 10:47:19 GMT -5
We had a random, unverifited twitter user make a claim and a bunch of posters and twitter handles running with it. Are we calling that the school publicly negotiating? Do you think Gtown wasn't recruiting DD? If so we can agree to disagree. How would I know if they recruited them or the level to which they recruited them if they did at all? Are we putting our blind faith in random twitter users that have been claiming we were signing a big for 2 months? And if they were, how was the school publicly negotiating?
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on May 16, 2024 10:48:02 GMT -5
This whole NIL business has quickly gotten out of control! It has—and it will continue to —reshape the landscape of college sports. It is an experiment that is doomed to fail! Why? Because it will elevate those schools who have big time backers and donors like FedEx. It will also—and we already see it happening—unleash a Wild West culture in college sports. Furthermore, it will erase even the semblance of the college athlete and the idea of a college education comes first.
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Post by EtomicB on May 16, 2024 10:55:36 GMT -5
Do you think Gtown wasn't recruiting DD? If so we can agree to disagree. How would I know if they recruited them or the level to which they recruited them if they did at all? Are we putting our blind faith in random twitter users that have been claiming we were signing a big for 2 months? Blue&Grey is one of the biggest insiders & most respected members on the board made this post yesterday "We were super aggressive. This isn’t on Cooley"Is he a random twitter user?
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Post by hoyariv71 on May 16, 2024 10:55:45 GMT -5
We had a random, unverifited twitter user make a claim and a bunch of posters and twitter handles running with it. Are we calling that the school publicly negotiating? Do you think Gtown wasn't recruiting DD? If so we can agree to disagree. [br At the end of the day, I hope we weren’t since he was committed to another team, but I think we were. My point is, I don’t believe Cooley was the one saying it was pretty much a done deal.
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Post by bostonfan on May 16, 2024 11:02:44 GMT -5
Do you think Gtown wasn't recruiting DD? If so we can agree to disagree. [br At the end of the day, I hope we weren’t since he was committed to another team, but I think we were. My point is, I don’t believe Cooley was the one saying it was pretty much a done deal. I don't know anything, but my guess is that the Hoyas were talking to him. Not sure if they initiated it, or if the player and his agent started the conversation. While I am not a fan of the school pursuing a player who has recently committed to another school, I am also not a fan of a player/agent reaching out when they think they can improve on a deal they just recently agreed to. The entire system is lousy!!!!
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Post by conshyhoya on May 16, 2024 11:12:54 GMT -5
How would I know if they recruited them or the level to which they recruited them if they did at all? Are we putting our blind faith in random twitter users that have been claiming we were signing a big for 2 months? Blue&Grey is one of the biggest insiders & most respected members on the board made this post yesterday "We were super aggressive. This isn’t on Cooley"Is he a random twitter user? He isn't but unless he heard it directly from Cooley or someone directly involved who knows what the truth is. I'm sure we have all seen the game/experiment where you pass something down the line and by the time it gets to the end it is completely different than when it started.
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Post by wolveribe on May 16, 2024 11:15:50 GMT -5
How would I know if they recruited them or the level to which they recruited them if they did at all? Are we putting our blind faith in random twitter users that have been claiming we were signing a big for 2 months? Blue&Grey is one of the biggest insiders & most respected members on the board made this post yesterday "We were super aggressive. This isn’t on Cooley"Is he a random twitter user? I did not see him pushing the DD talk, but if he was, I would put more stock into him doing so. But, how again were they publicly negotiating?
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on May 16, 2024 11:51:10 GMT -5
We had a random, unverifited twitter user make a claim and a bunch of posters and twitter handles running with it. Are we calling that the school publicly negotiating? Do you think Gtown wasn't recruiting DD? If so we can agree to disagree. Keep in mind Epps knew Dainja from Illinois too. It's easy to envision a scenario where Epps talks to Dainja, finds out he's a bit disgruntled, the staff talks to him, and then he goes back to Memphis, gets more money and stays. I am not sure why people always assume it's the staff meddling, rather than a player seeking it out themselves. In any event, he's staying at Memphis so it really doesn't matter. As an aside, there has to be a time at which a commitment is real. I would imagine it is upon enrollment at your new school. Please correct me if I am wrong, but once you enroll, I would imagine you are no longer in the portal, and thus cannot transfer. To the extent anybody decommits, I imagine it would have to be before summer classes start and all that.
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Post by royski on May 16, 2024 12:02:26 GMT -5
A veteran, rim protecting center was the obvious big need for this program after our latest 2 win season which featured the worst defense in the history of Georgetown basketball. It seems we're striking out on that. By any measure, that's a massive failure by this staff.
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Post by EtomicB on May 16, 2024 12:04:53 GMT -5
Blue&Grey is one of the biggest insiders & most respected members on the board made this post yesterday "We were super aggressive. This isn’t on Cooley"Is he a random twitter user? I did not see him pushing the DD talk, but if he was, I would put more stock into him doing so. But, how again were they publicly negotiating? Recruiting has always been a negotiation of sorts but now in the NIL era it really is, and you know that as someone who follows recruiting.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on May 16, 2024 12:19:22 GMT -5
Blue&Grey is one of the biggest insiders & most respected members on the board made this post yesterday "We were super aggressive. This isn’t on Cooley"Is he a random twitter user? He isn't but unless he heard it directly from Cooley or someone directly involved who knows what the truth is. I'm sure we have all seen the game/experiment where you pass something down the line and by the time it gets to the end it is completely different than when it started. Either way, it might be time to Cooley to tighten up the circle. There is no benefit whatsoever to people gossiping about half-baked things people hear. If people are just making stuff up, that's a different story, but it doesn't seem to be the case here. I know people criticize Hilltop Hoops for the articles about transfers that never came to fruition. I do not know him, but I have enough trust that he's not just making stuff up. Most likely, he's talking to similar "insiders" who have half-baked information or who hear things and speculate about them when it's not justified. These Georgetown "sources" have shown themselves to be extremely unreliable of late.
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Post by conshyhoya on May 16, 2024 12:31:01 GMT -5
A veteran, rim protecting center was the obvious big need for this program after our latest 2 win season which featured the worst defense in the history of Georgetown basketball. It seems we're striking out on that. By any measure, that's a massive failure by this staff. Although I agree we need a rim protector I wouldn't call this a massive failure because we had a lot of holes on the defensive side so Cook wasn't the only blackhole and can't be blamed for everything. We needed to improve more than just there. Just having upgrades for Ish and Jay automatically improves our defense. Our size and athleticism overall improved a lot so as long as we get at least one more 4 or 5 that has some defensive skills we should be in a way better place. That being said if we don't get one of the better ones left it will be disappointing.
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Post by thedragon on May 16, 2024 19:39:53 GMT -5
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Post by hoyaboya on May 17, 2024 8:06:54 GMT -5
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Post by EtomicB on May 17, 2024 8:40:53 GMT -5
These swings & misses on a center have overshadowed a very solid portal season. Peavy, Mack, Cu. Williams & Burks is a nice haul especially when looking down the line.
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Post by CTHoya08 on May 17, 2024 9:27:22 GMT -5
That's part of what makes it so frustrating. Add a center to that bunch and we might really have something in 2024-25.
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Post by hoyaboya on May 17, 2024 9:54:20 GMT -5
That's part of what makes it so frustrating. Add a center to that bunch and we might really have something in 2024-25. I think it depends on what you mean by "add a center" and "might really have something in 2024-25". An impact center, somebody like Cliff O., and I agree with the statement, assuming "might really have something" means upper tier of the Big East and an NCAA Tournament appearance. We're still going to get a "center", the question is whether he'll be an impact center or just a body that will provide backup minutes to 2 young and unproven bigs in Fielder and Sorber. Lot of questions for next year's team: How will Mack/Epps work together in the backcourt, are there enough basketballs to go around and can they defend anybody? Are Sorber and Fielder enough at the 4/5 positions? Are Williams and Burks going to show more as sophomores than they did as unproductive freshmen? Will we get anything substantial from Mulready/McKenna?
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