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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 24, 2024 19:15:37 GMT -5
I cannot imagine Cooley asking a kid to do that and thereby limit his own opportunities. More likely that he was upfront about our portal recruiting, told Supreme his minutes would be drastically cut if we find a better option, and Supreme now knows that we have so he is looking for a place with PT.
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Post by hoyaboya on Apr 24, 2024 19:35:43 GMT -5
Just based on this and all of the eyes emoji posts all around. Any guesses on who it might be? Cook's announcement was kind of delayed, can see Cooley asking him to wait until they got some momentum in the portal and were close. Was hoping he would stick around, but hard to see him actually wanting to play 5 minutes a game Hoping it's Cliff O, obviously. The kid from Tennessee is an upgrade from Cook but not a massive one. The Kentucky kid is a great shotblocker but has no offensive game whatsoever, he's a poor man's Cliff O.
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Post by hoyarooter on Apr 24, 2024 19:39:10 GMT -5
Interesting... I still cannot believe we have/had a 7'2" player who had played some BE minutes and that the coaching staff couldn't/cannot make him a useful player. That player could've been a fouling machine in the paint (i.e., anyone that gets passed you gets fouled) for one of the NCAA's worst defensive teams. I agree but we are beating a dead horse. There has to be more to the story than that Ryan just wasn't good enough to be coached into at least becoming a decent rim protector by his junior year but I'm afraid we will never know why that was. Have to admit, this was very amusing. Sorry, please ignore. I inadvertently hit reply on the wrong post.
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Post by hoyarooter on Apr 24, 2024 19:55:09 GMT -5
I look at Fielder and see a potential Georgetown Laetner. So we’ve had Fielder compared to Laettner and Mack compared to Kenny Anderson in the last week. What’s next? Micah Peavy and Scottie Pippen? Jayden Epps and Damian Lillard? Thomas Sorber and Rasheed Wallace? This is the one I found amusing.
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Post by wolveribe on Apr 24, 2024 20:09:43 GMT -5
Knew that the glass half empty crowd would chime in---same crew that would be complaining about the state of the program if Rowan and Cook came back and we were the worst defensive team in the BE again. Cooley's first freshman class hasn't even suited up yet, and there are people complaining about attrition under Cooley. Fielder is the only 2023 recruit that Cooley brought in. He is still here. Wrong. I thought we covered Rowan. Rowan’s take: “After the season it just made all too much sense, after Ewing left, to go play for Cooley. He recruited me out of high school at Providence, and them [Georgetown] being my hometown and needing a point guard, it just made perfect sense.” hilltophoops.substack.com/p/rowan-brumbaugh-georgetown-interview Besides, any player with more than one year of eligibility who was brought in by Cooley was part of his first-year class. Only Epps and Fielder are left of Cooley's first class at GU. And Mckenna
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Post by wolveribe on Apr 24, 2024 20:19:04 GMT -5
there are 3 guys that would be upgrades over Cook that we have had interest in.
1. Cliff- good defender/size. Wills get a couple dunks, more of a garbage points guy
2. Awaka- very good defender but not thr shot blocker that cliff is. wide body, decent shot
3. Onyenso-all defense
all fit what we need in different ways. Cliff is certainly a 1 year guy, the others might get multiple. Awaka is intriguing if you keep out of foul trouble.
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Post by madgesiq92 on Apr 24, 2024 21:00:51 GMT -5
Just based on this and all of the eyes emoji posts all around. Any guesses on who it might be? Cook's announcement was kind of delayed, can see Cooley asking him to wait until they got some momentum in the portal and were close. Was hoping he would stick around, but hard to see him actually wanting to play 5 minutes a game Hoping it's Cliff O, obviously. The kid from Tennessee is an upgrade from Cook but not a massive one. The Kentucky kid is a great shotblocker but has no offensive game whatsoever, he's a poor man's Cliff O. SC was the worst defensive big in the P5. Akawa would be a massive upgrade over him.
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Post by thedragon on Apr 24, 2024 21:05:06 GMT -5
Hoping it's Cliff O, obviously. The kid from Tennessee is an upgrade from Cook but not a massive one. The Kentucky kid is a great shotblocker but has no offensive game whatsoever, he's a poor man's Cliff O. SC was the worst defensive big in the P5. Akawa would be a massive upgrade over him. He knows Akawa is the likely get. He's got to prime the pump.
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Post by jackofjoy on Apr 24, 2024 21:12:03 GMT -5
there are 3 guys that would be upgrades over Cook that we have had interest in. 1. Cliff- good defender/size. Wills get a couple dunks, more of a garbage points guy2. Awaka- very good defender but not thr shot blocker that cliff is. wide body, decent shot 3. Onyenso-all defense all fit what we need in different ways. Cliff is certainly a 1 year guy, the others might get multiple. Awaka is intriguing if you keep out of foul trouble. And this skill set gets you $1.5mil in NIL. In the words of the great Clay Davis, sheeeeiiit
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Post by wolveribe on Apr 24, 2024 21:17:32 GMT -5
He may give you 12/10 with elite rim protection. Thats worth a lot
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Post by hoyaboya on Apr 24, 2024 21:23:26 GMT -5
He may give you 12/10 with elite rim protection. Thats worth a lot Assuming you’re talking about Cliff O. - totally agree. Plus those 12 points will come without having to run any plays for him, which is a huge plus when your backcourt is Mack and Epps. And while he’ll be expensive, you only have to pay him for one year. After all the futility of the last few years including Cooley’s first at Georgetown, Cliff O. is worth the extra price compared to the alternatives.
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Post by prhoya on Apr 24, 2024 21:42:18 GMT -5
Wrong. I thought we covered Rowan. Rowan’s take: “After the season it just made all too much sense, after Ewing left, to go play for Cooley. He recruited me out of high school at Providence, and them [Georgetown] being my hometown and needing a point guard, it just made perfect sense.” hilltophoops.substack.com/p/rowan-brumbaugh-georgetown-interview Besides, any player with more than one year of eligibility who was brought in by Cooley was part of his first-year class. Only Epps and Fielder are left of Cooley's first class at GU. And Mckenna Part of the 2024 class
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Post by conshyhoya on Apr 24, 2024 21:56:07 GMT -5
How is he part of 2024? He was on the team the second semester(assuming on scholarship) on the bench for games as a greenshirt. He could have transferred out if he wanted. So if say Sorber is here this year but for some reason doesn't play is he part of the 2025 class?
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Post by prhoya on Apr 24, 2024 22:00:31 GMT -5
How is he part of 2024? He was on the team the second semester(assuming on scholarship) on the bench for games as a greenshirt. He could have transferred out if he wanted. So if say Sorber is here this year but for some reason doesn't play is he part of the 2025 class? Sorber would be Class of 2024 redshirted, with four years of eligibility. DM starts playing with the Class of 2024 and has four years of eligibility. He was recruited to play in 2024-25. Yes, he could transfer.
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Post by MCIGuy on Apr 24, 2024 22:03:19 GMT -5
Hate to lose Cook. Largely because I hate losing any player but also because the guy played hard and was capable of putting up good rebounding numbers and points at times. But it looks as if there was an understanding Cook's role would be downgraded, that he would definitely be losing his starting spot. I was hoping he'd be okay with that but who knows? Wish him luck the rest of the way.
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Post by conshyhoya on Apr 24, 2024 22:21:07 GMT -5
How is he part of 2024? He was on the team the second semester(assuming on scholarship) on the bench for games as a greenshirt. He could have transferred out if he wanted. So if say Sorber is here this year but for some reason doesn't play is he part of the 2025 class? Sorber would be Class of 2024 redshirted, with four years of eligibility. DM starts playing with the Class of 2024 and has four years of eligibility. He was recruited to play in 2024-25. Yes, he could transfer. He reclassified to play with the 2023-24 team but didn't finish his credits up in time and decided not to play by the time he did. If we were good and tournament bound he probably plays. He is bound by the transfer portal rules so I'm not sure how there is anything to argue about that he is part of the 23-24 year. Unless I have the rules wrong he can't just reopen his recruitment after May 1 like a true incoming freshman. He is basically Rowan when at Texas with less credits.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 24, 2024 22:32:39 GMT -5
there are 3 guys that would be upgrades over Cook that we have had interest in. 1. Cliff- good defender/size. Wills get a couple dunks, more of a garbage points guy 2. Awaka- very good defender but not thr shot blocker that cliff is. wide body, decent shot 3. Onyenso-all defense all fit what we need in different ways. Cliff is certainly a 1 year guy, the others might get multiple. Awaka is intriguing if you keep out of foul trouble. My preference is basically always for the nutso rim protectors, but I was looking at Akawa's stats, and I have to say he's being a bit undersold. One, his block rate is still decent -- 5.6%. He and Fielder could make a decent combo down low. But he grabbed 18% of offensive rebounds last year! Those are free possessions and free points with his FG%/FT%. Also the best D Reb % on the team at 20%. The one thing I thought we'd miss with Supreme was his habit of getting O boards, so to actually upgrade the one good part of his game, great. Plus, I actually like that this might put Fielder and Sorber more in a central defensive role -- I feel like that's easier for both of them. The fouls are my big concern. We could be going through these guys like kleenex.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 24, 2024 22:34:55 GMT -5
How is he part of 2024? He was on the team the second semester(assuming on scholarship) on the bench for games as a greenshirt. He could have transferred out if he wanted. So if say Sorber is here this year but for some reason doesn't play is he part of the 2025 class? He's part of whatever class allows pr to complain, dammit, and you'll like it.
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Post by prhoya on Apr 24, 2024 22:36:57 GMT -5
Sorber would be Class of 2024 redshirted, with four years of eligibility. DM starts playing with the Class of 2024 and has four years of eligibility. He was recruited to play in 2024-25. Yes, he could transfer. He reclassified to play with the 2023-24 team but didn't finish his credits up in time and decided not to play by the time he did. If we were good and tournament bound he probably plays. He is bound by the transfer portal rules so I'm not sure how there is anything to argue about that he is part of the 23-24 year. Unless I have the rules wrong he can't just reopen his recruitment after May 1 like a true incoming freshman. He is basically Rowan when at Texas with less credits. You’re making an assumption re: playing if tournament bound. He enrolled early and redshirted. In terms of eligibility, he will be a first-year player in August 2024.
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Post by prhoya on Apr 24, 2024 22:45:01 GMT -5
How is he part of 2024? He was on the team the second semester(assuming on scholarship) on the bench for games as a greenshirt. He could have transferred out if he wanted. So if say Sorber is here this year but for some reason doesn't play is he part of the 2025 class? He's part of whatever class allows pr to complain, dammit, and you'll like it. Are you still doing that hissy fit from the other day?
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