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Post by professorhoya on Mar 22, 2024 10:31:09 GMT -5
I don't have any doubt at all that Mintz would be an upgrade over Epps. But playing them together? ... It's not a perfect fit, they are both guys who like to dominate the ball. Not saying it couldn't work, but there'd certainly be some things to iron out basketball-wise, not to mention potential chemistry and personality issues to be wary of. It's not a no-brainer IMHO, even though Mintz's ability is undeniable. Am I the only one who is eagerly anticipating news on Bryce Hopkins now that PC's season is done? Not a given that he enters the portal, but I'm interested to see where it goes. Obviously there are injury concerns and I know some are squeamish about poaching PC. But above all this team needs a talent infusion, and this is a proven All BE caliber player who has a deep relationship with our head coach/staff. At the very least it needs to be strongly explored. Why should we be squeamish. Overrated Kim English poached his George Mason team.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 22, 2024 10:34:00 GMT -5
I don't have any doubt at all that Mintz would be an upgrade over Epps. But playing them together? ... It's not a perfect fit, they are both guys who like to dominate the ball. Not saying it couldn't work, but there'd certainly be some things to iron out basketball-wise, not to mention potential chemistry and personality issues to be wary of. It's not a no-brainer IMHO, even though Mintz's ability is undeniable. Am I the only one who is eagerly anticipating news on Bryce Hopkins now that PC's season is done? Not a given that he enters the portal, but I'm interested to see where it goes. Obviously there are injury concerns and I know some are squeamish about poaching PC. But above all this team needs a talent infusion, and this is a proven All BE caliber player who has a deep relationship with our head coach/staff. At the very least it needs to be strongly explored. I am fine with Hopkins, but only as a backup plan with someone else similarly good. There is no guarantee Hopkins will return to his pre-ACL form, so you cannot rely on that alone. Not to mention the full recovery period is often 9 months (hopefully sooner for someone young and athletic like him), so it would be hard to know where he even stands until soon before the next season.
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Post by RBHoya on Mar 22, 2024 11:08:45 GMT -5
I am fine with Hopkins, but only as a backup plan with someone else similarly good. There is no guarantee Hopkins will return to his pre-ACL form, so you cannot rely on that alone. Not to mention the full recovery period is often 9 months (hopefully sooner for someone young and athletic like him), so it would be hard to know where he even stands until soon before the next season. Seems like athletes are increasingly healing more quickly from ACL tears. Hopkins' was right around the start of the year, so you'd think he'd likely be ready for when the season started and should be all the way back into shape by conference play. He knows what it's like to play for Cooley already, so the period of acclimation to a new system would be very short. It's of course possible that his health never goes back to what it once was or that he has pain or complications that limit him significantly next season, but it feels like you see less and less of that these days and if he's not back to something closely resembling his old self by conference play (1 full year post-injury) it would be abnormal for an athlete at this level. As far as backup plans, I guess it depends on how you view the positions and other needs. Hopkins to me feels like he'd be almost a bonus. Right now I expect the guard rotation to be 2 transfers + Epps + Mulready. I expect the wing rotation to be Styles + McKenna + Williams. And I expect the big (4/5) rotation to be 1 transfer center + Sorber + Fielder + Cook. That's already 11, so 2 of those guys probably aren't in the core rotation (I'd guess Williams and Cook, but who knows). To me if you add Hopkins into that mix, you're upgrading your ceiling significantly by bringing in a guy who we know has all-conference level talent when healthy. But if he can't get healthy, we're just giving those minutes to guys look Sorber or Fielder, which isn't the worst thing. I am not necessarily expecting us to pursue PFs or combo forwards in the portal unless they are significant difference makers like him.
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 23, 2024 4:46:42 GMT -5
His offensive metrics are better than Epp’s across the board. We all know we only had one guy who could reliably put the ball in the bucket last year….with two….that really changes the dynamics. Also, his defensive metrics are better than any guard we had last year. So are my grandfather's, and if he were still alive he'd be about 130 years old.
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Post by dariantownesvanzandt on Mar 23, 2024 12:24:26 GMT -5
One thing that's pretty conspicuous is the absence of PG contacts. If our plans aren't cemented already, it seems at least we've got it well narrowed down and we're not just tossing invites out there.
A lot's probably riding on what Mintz thinks of his NBA prospects at this point.
Meanwhile every decent big & SG is hearing from Ed & Co.
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Post by jwp91 on Mar 23, 2024 12:56:39 GMT -5
One thing that's pretty conspicuous is the absence of PG contacts. If our plans aren't cemented already, it seems at least we've got it well narrowed down and we're not just tossing invites out there. A lot's probably riding on what Mintz thinks of his NBA prospects at this point. Meanwhile every decent big & SG is hearing from Ed & Co. I am not sure this is true. I saw that they reached out to Leland Walker and UDub’s PG.
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Post by dariantownesvanzandt on Mar 23, 2024 14:41:41 GMT -5
One thing that's pretty conspicuous is the absence of PG contacts. If our plans aren't cemented already, it seems at least we've got it well narrowed down and we're not just tossing invites out there. A lot's probably riding on what Mintz thinks of his NBA prospects at this point. Meanwhile every decent big & SG is hearing from Ed & Co. I am not sure this is true. I saw that they reached out to Leland Walker and UDub’s PG. You're right - Walker is a PG. I should've suggested they haven't been listed w/ anyone I think would actually be the starting PG. Walker - as other guards they've contacted - seem like 3rd guards. I can't imagine tossing out 5mm just to have Walker be your starter. He seems like somebody who would need to prove it at this level before he's handed the keys, especially coming off this past season. I guess the official list of potentials isn't actually that long yet -- Dug (who i don't think has a list of contacts) and ...? Maybe I'm jumping the gun, but it sounds like Mintz is likely.
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Post by jwp91 on Mar 23, 2024 15:56:21 GMT -5
I am not sure this is true. I saw that they reached out to Leland Walker and UDub’s PG. You're right - Walker is a PG. I should've suggested they haven't been listed w/ anyone I think would actually be the starting PG. Walker - as other guards they've contacted - seem like 3rd guards. I can't imagine tossing out 5mm just to have Walker be your starter. He seems like somebody who would need to prove it at this level before he's handed the keys, especially coming off this past season. I guess the official list of potentials isn't actually that long yet -- Dug (who i don't think has a list of contacts) and ...? Maybe I'm jumping the gun, but it sounds like Mintz is likely. I think programs are going to be forced to throw a wide net. Leland is in that net for the Hoyas. Regarding Mintz, I would characterize that as ‘possible’ vs. ‘likely.’ It sounds like he may want to test the NBA draft waters so the timing might not be right. Meanwhile, at some point, Cooley might decide a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Mintz is super talented, but I still have concerns how much success he can bring to the Hoyas in combination with Epps. He certainly doesn’t seem to be a culture guy and we know that Cooley recently talked about the importance of bringing in the right cultural fit. With the size checks that we are purportedly able to write, we should be aiming our sights pretty high…higher than Leland and Mintz for our first picks.
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Post by drquigley on Mar 23, 2024 16:07:33 GMT -5
The problem with this thread is that when looking for guys that can help in the future we can really only look at offensive numbers. But when you're one of the worst defensive teams in D1 I don't care how great a portal guys numbers are we need defenders. But it's really hard to evaluate high level defenders. Or even more important do you pass on a great offensive player for an even better defender? I'm watching Gonzaga destroy Kansas, mainly because Kansas is just going through the defensive motions. Look, we scored over 180 points against Xavier and lost both games.
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 23, 2024 16:24:35 GMT -5
The problem with this thread is that when looking for guys that can help in the future we can really only look at offensive numbers. But when you're one of the worst defensive teams in D1 I don't care how great a portal guys numbers are we need defenders. But it's really hard to evaluate high level defenders. Or even more important do you pass on a great offensive player for an even better defender? I'm watching Gonzaga destroy Kansas, mainly because Kansas is just going through the defensive motions. Look, we scored over 180 points against Xavier and lost both games. Outstanding points - both Dickinson and Timberlake were highly coveted portal guys last offseason, but both play defense atrociously.
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Post by jwp91 on Mar 23, 2024 16:30:35 GMT -5
The problem with this thread is that when looking for guys that can help in the future we can really only look at offensive numbers. But when you're one of the worst defensive teams in D1 I don't care how great a portal guys numbers are we need defenders. But it's really hard to evaluate high level defenders. Or even more important do you pass on a great offensive player for an even better defender? I'm watching Gonzaga destroy Kansas, mainly because Kansas is just going through the defensive motions. Look, we scored over 180 points against Xavier and lost both games. You speak the truth. But there is some evidence for those who just aren’t going to watch a ton of film. All Conference Defensive Team members - the staffs of the opponents recognize the defensive ability of these players. DBPR and DBOX - There are models like EvanMiya.com which quantify defense. I understand that DBOX is based on solely on a player’s stats while DBPR considers what happens defensively when someone is on the court. Past experience - I am sure the staff has observations from all the scouting they have done about players who impress them defensively. As an example, using some popular targets DBPR. DBOX Mintz. 1.26. 1.02 Dug. 1.12. 1.02 Perkins. -.59. .63
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Post by jwp91 on Mar 23, 2024 16:31:30 GMT -5
Defensive Win Share is another way to identify high impact defensive players.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 23, 2024 19:32:01 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 24, 2024 3:10:45 GMT -5
Hats off to Seton Hall Student. This is hilarious.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 27, 2024 20:49:42 GMT -5
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Post by saxagael on Mar 28, 2024 10:12:49 GMT -5
Funny, but all of those are quick services, those "teams" would get slowed down waiting for him to get down court. Team Imodium could look for him to speed things up.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Mar 28, 2024 11:01:16 GMT -5
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Post by saxagael on Mar 28, 2024 13:06:21 GMT -5
You may want to check the Recruiting > Transfer section as most player discussions for the portal are happening there.
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Post by hoyariv71 on Mar 28, 2024 13:43:18 GMT -5
Not a fan of lampkin except for a backup center
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Post by hoyazeke on Mar 28, 2024 15:46:23 GMT -5
I only saw the tourney game against UF but he is definitely not a rim protector. The UF big was getting whether he wanted but it seemed more because of good O and Lampkin's lack of hops...he seemed to be in decent position on most possessions and made the big shoot over him.
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