AltoSaxa
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Post by AltoSaxa on May 18, 2023 17:22:17 GMT -5
This is a total rebuild that will take 2 years to start to pay dividends. No one should expect much next year. Competitive games, maybe 5-8 big east wins would be a reasonable range. Will take zero wins if we have, improved recruiting, close games, different offensive sets and new-found defensive intensity |
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Post by SaxaCD on May 18, 2023 18:56:37 GMT -5
I am just in awe of what coach Cooley has been able to pull off in just a few short months! It also speaks volumes about the Georgetown environment, the history and traditions! After Porter and now Sorber, I think we can begin calling GU, Moms’ university! If you have got the momma, you have the son! I think Cooley is trying to build his GU foundation, so '23, '24 and '25 guys are getting lined up. He's also showing other recruits that he's not looking at a one-year "big bang" but building something that they might want to be a part of. I like the strategy, and I do love the way he identifies really solid PF prospects. I've always thought that has been Providence's main strength, much like ours was Centers. |
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Post by MCIGuy on May 19, 2023 2:56:14 GMT -5
Since Cooley's hiring Sorber has been the 2024 recruit I wanted the most. He checks off a lot of important boxes imo and I liked what I have seen of him. Recent developments and reports have left me even more impressed.
--People seem to really love him. Coaches, teammates and students. Speaks to him being a guy who doesn't act as if he is some star above everyone else.
--Is consistently referred to as coachable
--Played soccer growing up and credits that to his good footwork. Hmmm. Where have I heard that before?
--Described as having great hands.
--One report listed him as being 16. If that is accurate he is a little young for his class which could mean there is probably some real physical growth ahead of him. One of his coaches claims he may grow a couple of more inches (yes, this can be said about any kid who is a junior in high school....but still...)
--Seems to truly value the academic opportunities of Georgetown as well as the athletic ones. Is it too much of a stereotype for me to say this should not be unexpected from a kid whose parents were immigrants?
--Has the right role models in terms of big men whose style of play he admires (Jokic and Embiid).
--Fell in love with Georgetown pretty much as soon as he first stepped on campus.
--Seems like a humble kid. I got the impression he was trying to make a case why he was worthy to play for Georgetown instead of why Georgetown was worthy of his services.
--Despite not being an explosive athlete the consensus appears to be that his upside can nonetheless be tremendous if he truly develops his body.
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Post by MCIGuy on May 19, 2023 2:58:34 GMT -5
Don't forget that Cooley lost Jayden Epps as a decommit from Providence once bigger fish came calling...if Sorber blows up, his NIL price will certainly go up as well. I think there are a lot of reasons to want to get him on campus ASAP. So going forward I guess we should be trying to reclassify every recruit that commits to the Gtown program, right? That type of thinking can drive you crazy. |
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Post by trotters10 on May 19, 2023 10:47:11 GMT -5
Will be interested to see what Ken White can do with Sorber!
All the articles about Sorber have mentioned how he's been undergoing a change in his body as he's getting older, and how as his body takes the next step, likely so will his game (and he's already a good player). White is considered one of the best in the business. Crosswell is the perfect example of what a serious strength and conditioning coach can do to your game. Took Crosswell a couple years, my hope is that Sorber will be ready right from the start!
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Post by hoya9797 on May 19, 2023 17:22:32 GMT -5
I think some people are overselling. Lol. Imo, he's not a high major player, and shouldn't be higher than 3rd string unless everything about his game from footwork to agility to instincts to offensive repertoire and beyond have improved. On a 2-18 team last year he was essentially 4th string behind a former player/manager. And from the leaked/rumored staff discussion with recruits this offseason - they would prefer not to even play him in a backup role. In 2003s case, he absolutely despises Ewing so there is a Little bit of that going on in terms of Hoping Mutombo dominates. Which doesn’t even make any sense because Ewing would have played his friends son as much as possible if Mutombo was any good. You still haven’t been able to grasp Ewing’s incompetence, have you? |
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Post by hoyaboya on May 20, 2023 12:19:09 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on May 20, 2023 16:12:07 GMT -5
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 20, 2023 18:41:21 GMT -5
Can't wait to see you in blue and gray.
Now get back to work!
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Post by bigskyhoya on May 21, 2023 8:09:01 GMT -5
I think some people are overselling. Lol. Imo, he's not a high major player, and shouldn't be higher than 3rd string unless everything about his game from footwork to agility to instincts to offensive repertoire and beyond have improved. On a 2-18 team last year he was essentially 4th string behind a former player/manager. And from the leaked/rumored staff discussion with recruits this offseason - they would prefer not to even play him in a backup role. In 2003s case, he absolutely despises Ewing so there is a Little bit of that going on in terms of Hoping Mutombo dominates. Which doesn’t even make any sense because Ewing would have played his friends son as much as possible if Mutombo was any good. You are hell bent on wearing the Scarlet E forever, and it leads to idiotic posts like this one. As a Professor, you should be able to identify the literary reference. |
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Post by BeantownHoya on May 21, 2023 8:35:49 GMT -5
Let's keep it about Sorber in this thread...
Kid will have more assists in his first 2 games than Wahab had in his last 2 seasons with Gtown....
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Post by bigskyhoya on May 21, 2023 12:37:05 GMT -5
Let's keep it about Sorber in this thread... Kid will have more assists in his first 2 games than Wahab had in his last 2 seasons with Gtown.... You're right, of course. Thrilled about this recruit. I'm I'm the camp that will be patient with the rebuilding and welcome this kid in his current class. |
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Post by trillesthoya on May 21, 2023 13:00:08 GMT -5
Let's keep it about Sorber in this thread... Kid will have more assists in his first 2 games than Wahab had in his last 2 seasons with Gtown.... This is such a beautiful pass and it’s indicative of why he’s the perfect big man for Cooley’s system. He puts his centers in a position to be decision makers. To be a successful center for him you need vision and IQ. I think those are some of Sorber’s strong suits. |
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Post by hoyas315 on May 21, 2023 14:32:30 GMT -5
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Post by EtomicB on May 21, 2023 14:44:34 GMT -5
Let's keep it about Sorber in this thread... Kid will have more assists in his first 2 games than Wahab had in his last 2 seasons with Gtown.... This is such a beautiful pass and it’s indicative of why he’s the perfect big man for Cooley’s system. He puts his centers in a position to be decision makers. To be a successful center for him you need vision and IQ. I think those are some of Sorber’s strong suits. I agree about the pass but not about Cooley’s system. His centers are finishers not facilitators |
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on May 21, 2023 22:48:35 GMT -5
I think some people are overselling. Lol. Imo, he's not a high major player, and shouldn't be higher than 3rd string unless everything about his game from footwork to agility to instincts to offensive repertoire and beyond have improved. On a 2-18 team last year he was essentially 4th string behind a former player/manager. And from the leaked/rumored staff discussion with recruits this offseason - they would prefer not to even play him in a backup role. In 2003s case, he absolutely despises Ewing so there is a Little bit of that going on in terms of Hoping Mutombo dominates. Which doesn’t even make any sense because Ewing would have played his friends son as much as possible if Mutombo was any good. For what it's worth, I do not despise Ewing. I think he was a very bad coach, and I think he had a horrible impact on the program, but I don't "despise" Ewing. As I said numerous times, once it was obvious he couldn't do the job, most of my ire was directed at those who kept him in place when it was abundantly obvious he could not do the job. I really have no idea what to expect of Mutombo, but I do think he will benefit from better coaching and a better environment. I think the same thing can be said for Akok, Heath, and Bristol, too. After JT3 took over from Esherick, a bunch of the players who had already played undr Esherick saw big jumps in performance. It would not shock me at all if all of Akok, Heath, Bristol, and Mutombo do much better this season. As for Sorber, I think he's a great add. And if Cooley cannot get another center before Sorber can take on the role, we may have to rely on Mutombo whether we want to or not. |
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Post by hoyas315 on May 29, 2023 19:00:11 GMT -5
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Post by augustusfinknottle on May 29, 2023 20:56:04 GMT -5
Pin that thang!
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Post by hoyasaxa18 on Jun 5, 2023 11:22:33 GMT -5
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Post by EtomicB on Jun 5, 2023 12:19:55 GMT -5
The more I see him play, the more excited I get.. His game is very well-suited to play in a more open system, his game is not at all similar to Batts or Watson, or Croswell's |
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