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Post by calhoya on Mar 22, 2023 7:06:59 GMT -5
Much as I hate the fact that the Hoyas poached a coach from another conference member, it happened and its over. Would not blame Friar fans for their anger but I think they got a pretty good coach and rising star in English. Now rooting for Cooley to become a highly successful coach on the Hilltop. Hopefully some of last year's team will return but I will be rooting for the squad he puts on the floor. What I want is to have a team that can run an offense not predicated on my turn ball and one that actually can play passable defense. At this point I would even take some Princeton concepts if it meant winning some games.
Cooley is not be the sexiest hire but he does come with a proven track record in the BE and an opportunity to raise his ceiling in a basketball hotbed with incredible local talent. In today's college basketball environment quick turnarounds are very possible but honeymoons for new hires are very brief. Good luck to the new coaching staff. Looking forward to seeing your work in November.
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Post by Omega on Mar 22, 2023 7:07:36 GMT -5
Haven't been reading all the posts here so please excuse any redundancies. Let's be honest: one month ago, if I told you that we were going to hire Ed Cooley to be our coach, most of you (even the Pitino hopefuls like me) would have been pretty darn satisfied with that. Not only that, but look how it happened: Fired Patrick Ewing. Immediately announced and "carried out" a search for a new coach. By March 20, they announce the hiring of a bonafide, proven, very good coach. We all worried that Jack and Co. would screw it up by waiting too long and generally fudging it all up by misreading the field of candidates and being left with a bunch of semi-proven mid-major candidates. You can argue that it didn't happen as professionally and efficiently as described above, but here we are in late March in really place to start the renaissance of our MBB program. There's things not to like, esp. for us Pitino hopefuls, and those things will figure themselves out and/or come back to bite us as the next couple of seasons unfold. I find myself ruminating a lot about how it all happened and about what "the Georgetown Way" really is. First, if I were a Friar fan, I would be Editeded and sad and betrayed right now, and those feelings would not be going away anytime soon. I find no joy in mocking their pain and outrage at this moment, and anyone who has understood what Cooley and PC had knows that Cooley coming here and the way it transpired is not the way these past 12 years should have ended. It should leave us wondering. The tweets and posts ridiculing Cooley's long-time devotees come off sounding smug, condescending, and cheap -- not our best look. Second, if Jack's reason for not even calling Pitino is (partly) due to adhering to doing things "the Georgetown Way", then are the events of this past week (actually months since Cooley and GU officials have been talking since January) "the Georgetown Way"? When I heard that we were in hot pursuit of Cooley, I had mixed feelings (intra-conference coach, big sums of money, lots of secretive maneuvering, etc.), but I figured this is the way it is now in college ball. It's a business & sometimes it gets rough. But what I really regretted is the air of big, rich Georgetown wanting this coach and coming up with whatever it took to get him. Was there actually a legit search? Hard to say, but doesn't seem so. The talks had been going on secretly for months. We seem to be o.k. with letting our prestige and good name carry us as we sometimes act in ways that belie the so-called "Georgetown Way". In the end, I'm happy for our players and overall for the school that our basketball team will get better, etc, but I can't condone the way it all came about. If it is as it seems, I don't think we lived up to the values extolled at the school, what I think of as "the Georgetown Way". In the movie "The Mission" (Deniro, Neeson, Irons - a bunch of others -- great film -- see it if you haven't), 2 Jesuit priests are taking stock of some tragic events for which they were culpable in big ways. In an effort to console and perhaps explain what has happened, one priest says, "Thus is the world." (i.e., "hey, that's how things are. What can you do?") The older Jesuit replies "Thus have we made the world." I want to be matter-of-fact and say that this is the way things are now and everyone does it and who cares as long as we win and get things going again and however else we might justify it all. But, despite the hiring of a coach that will likely turn around the MBB program and make Georgetown basketball fun -- and maybe even great -- again, I feel like maybe we've lost a little something of what we all left campus with after our time and education on the Hilltop, I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm not sure Jack & Co. didn't screw this thing up in some more important ways. Who cares if it was a big search. They got their number one choice. The relevancy of a search is irrelevant of you and your top choice are both interested in the same thing. Move on Pitinoites... |
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Post by RusskyHoya on Mar 22, 2023 7:58:21 GMT -5
Many wealthy donors are not interested in ponying up for general scholarship funds or Olympic sports, but are very interested in ponying up to secure a spot in DeGioia's suite at basketball games, some one-on-one time with the coach (especially if the coach is *personable*), etc. etc. Most funds are not truly fungible. Thanks for the answer, esp. because I know you to be knowledgeable about this stuff. Is it fair to say that expenditures for men’s basketball have no effect on money spent for other sports? This is not intended as as an argument against Coach Cooley, but the reality is we are now paying about 9 mil. annually for our head coaches. I’m just trying to figure out the trade offs for other student-athletes when someone says “who cares about the cost.” I certainly wouldn't say *no* effect - surely there are some fungible basketball funds that could help support other sports that are instead being used on basketball salaries. How exactly all that internal accounting really shakes out, I don't claim to know (e.g., how exactly NCAA tournament money from the Big East is allocated). There's also an 'opportunity cost' sense in which restricted/targeted giving that might have otherwise gone to some other sport like soccer now goes to basketball, because that's the area of greatest need. While I stand by the claim that *many* donors are quite choosy about where they put their money, others just have a general target amount they're looking to hit each year and are willing to be flexible about where exactly it goes. Me personally, I'm very much not a "who cares about the cost" person, because there are always tradeoffs and opportunity costs and knock-on effects, etc. to everything. Unfortunately, Georgetown's finances are opaque on a good day, even above and beyond the generally Byzantine nature of college sports finances. As a result, we're all left doing a lot of guesswork. |
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Post by RusskyHoya on Mar 22, 2023 8:22:42 GMT -5
Second, if Jack's reason for not even calling Pitino is (partly) due to adhering to doing things "the Georgetown Way", then are the events of this past week (actually months since Cooley and GU officials have been talking since January) "the Georgetown Way"? When I heard that we were in hot pursuit of Cooley, I had mixed feelings (intra-conference coach, big sums of money, lots of secretive maneuvering, etc.), but I figured this is the way it is now in college ball. It's a business & sometimes it gets rough. But what I really regretted is the air of big, rich Georgetown wanting this coach and coming up with whatever it took to get him. Was there actually a legit search? Hard to say, but doesn't seem so. The talks had been going on secretly for months. We seem to be o.k. with letting our prestige and good name carry us as we sometimes act in ways that belie the so-called "Georgetown Way". In the end, I'm happy for our players and overall for the school that our basketball team will get better, etc, but I can't condone the way it all came about. If it is as it seems, I don't think we lived up to the values extolled at the school, what I think of as "the Georgetown Way". In the movie "The Mission" (Deniro, Neeson, Irons - a bunch of others -- great film -- see it if you haven't), 2 Jesuit priests are taking stock of some tragic events for which they were culpable in big ways. In an effort to console and perhaps explain what has happened, one priest says, "Thus is the world." (i.e., "hey, that's how things are. What can you do?") The older Jesuit replies "Thus have we made the world." I want to be matter-of-fact and say that this is the way things are now and everyone does it and who cares as long as we win and get things going again and however else we might justify it all. But, despite the hiring of a coach that will likely turn around the MBB program and make Georgetown basketball fun -- and maybe even great -- again, I feel like maybe we've lost a little something of what we all left campus with after our time and education on the Hilltop, I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm not sure Jack & Co. didn't screw this thing up in some more important ways. While agreeing with your larger point/lament about the continuing free-for-all-ization of college sports... there's a pretty significant difference to me between: 1) Engaging in negotiations with a coach currently employed elsewhere in-season (which the transfer portal timing now makes basically inevitable, lest you really put yourself behind the 8-ball) and paying them "big sums of money" (which is dictated by the labor market) and 2) Hiring a coach who got 120+ wins and a national championship vacated for having a member of his staff hire prostitutes for recruits and has had various other accusations of basketball improprieties follow him throughout his career, from Hawaii to Louisville, that may not have led to him being found culpable by the NCAA, but do clearly add to the "where there's smoke, there's fire" and Occam's Razor side of the scales. (By the way, the NCAA does not have powers of subpoena and warrant, but the FBI does, and their criminal complaint in the Brian Bowen case in which Pitino is the very-much-not-an-innocent-bystander "Coach-2″ remains out there for all to see. Gatto, Code and Dawkins were convicted on the basis of that evidence). The "hiring a coach away from an in-conference team" does strike against a sense of conference unity, but... Providence tried to hire Pops away from Georgetown before hiring Pitino, and tried to hire Pitino away from Louisville when they were in the conference. If any school has any grounds to cry foul, it's not PC. |
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Post by prhoya on Mar 22, 2023 9:21:03 GMT -5
Second, if Jack's reason for not even calling Pitino is (partly) due to adhering to doing things "the Georgetown Way", then are the events of this past week (actually months since Cooley and GU officials have been talking since January) "the Georgetown Way"? When I heard that we were in hot pursuit of Cooley, I had mixed feelings (intra-conference coach, big sums of money, lots of secretive maneuvering, etc.), but I figured this is the way it is now in college ball. It's a business & sometimes it gets rough. But what I really regretted is the air of big, rich Georgetown wanting this coach and coming up with whatever it took to get him. Was there actually a legit search? Hard to say, but doesn't seem so. The talks had been going on secretly for months. We seem to be o.k. with letting our prestige and good name carry us as we sometimes act in ways that belie the so-called "Georgetown Way". In the end, I'm happy for our players and overall for the school that our basketball team will get better, etc, but I can't condone the way it all came about. If it is as it seems, I don't think we lived up to the values extolled at the school, what I think of as "the Georgetown Way". In the movie "The Mission" (Deniro, Neeson, Irons - a bunch of others -- great film -- see it if you haven't), 2 Jesuit priests are taking stock of some tragic events for which they were culpable in big ways. In an effort to console and perhaps explain what has happened, one priest says, "Thus is the world." (i.e., "hey, that's how things are. What can you do?") The older Jesuit replies "Thus have we made the world." I want to be matter-of-fact and say that this is the way things are now and everyone does it and who cares as long as we win and get things going again and however else we might justify it all. But, despite the hiring of a coach that will likely turn around the MBB program and make Georgetown basketball fun -- and maybe even great -- again, I feel like maybe we've lost a little something of what we all left campus with after our time and education on the Hilltop, I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm not sure Jack & Co. didn't screw this thing up in some more important ways. While agreeing with your larger point/lament about the continuing free-for-all-ization of college sports... there's a pretty significant difference to me between: 1) Engaging in negotiations with a coach currently employed elsewhere in-season (which the transfer portal timing now makes basically inevitable, lest you really put yourself behind the 8-ball) and paying them "big sums of money" (which is dictated by the labor market) and 2) Hiring a coach who got 120+ wins and a national championship vacated for having a member of his staff hire prostitutes for recruits and has had various other accusations of basketball improprieties follow him throughout his career, from Hawaii to Louisville, that may not have led to him being found culpable by the NCAA, but do clearly add to the "where there's smoke, there's fire" and Occam's Razor side of the scales. (By the way, the NCAA does not have powers of subpoena and warrant, but the FBI does, and their criminal complaint in the Brian Bowen case in which Pitino is the very-much-not-an-innocent-bystander "Coach-2″ remains out there for all to see. Gatto, Code and Dawkins were convicted on the basis of that evidence). The "hiring a coach away from an in-conference team" does strike against a sense of conference unity, but... Providence tried to hire Pops away from Georgetown before hiring Pitino, and tried to hire Pitino away from Louisville when they were in the conference. If any school has any grounds to cry foul, it's not PC. Were there any in Roman Catholic Iona U.? He ended up in Roman Catholic St. John’s University signed by its President, the Roman Catholic Rev. Brian J. Shanley, O.P., S.T.L., Ph.D. Are we that “houler than thou” under our longest-termed president? Btw, when does DeGioia step down? Who removes DeGioia? Whenever he wants because no one can tell him otherwise? Sounds very Putin, Xi and John Thompson… there for life or until they want… I need to find the Jesuit’s education philosophy handbook. I remember how Fr. Healy, Beirne and O’Donovan (and others in middle and high school) explained separately how and why Jesuit educators were rotated from one post to another every 10 or so years. Now, we’re working on the 22nd year of DeGioia’s tenure. Is Georgetown no longer following Jesuit education principles? |
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Post by TC on Mar 22, 2023 9:24:14 GMT -5
In the movie "The Mission" (Deniro, Neeson, Irons - a bunch of others -- great film -- see it if you haven't), 2 Jesuit priests are taking stock of some tragic events for which they were culpable in big ways. In an effort to console and perhaps explain what has happened, one priest says, "Thus is the world." (i.e., "hey, that's how things are. What can you do?") The older Jesuit replies "Thus have we made the world." I want to be matter-of-fact and say that this is the way things are now and everyone does it and who cares as long as we win and get things going again and however else we might justify it all. But, despite the hiring of a coach that will likely turn around the MBB program and make Georgetown basketball fun -- and maybe even great -- again, I feel like maybe we've lost a little something of what we all left campus with after our time and education on the Hilltop, I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm not sure Jack & Co. didn't screw this thing up in some more important ways. I can't take this "we've lost our soul" nonsense seriously from people who wholeheartedly wanted Rick Pitino. You want to be mad at Jack that he didn't seriously consider Pitino? Nothing wrong with that at all. You want to clutch your pearls that we hired a coach in-conference and negotiated with him during the season instead of hiring Pitino and negotiating with him during the season, and ignoring his past? C'mon. If Pitino's past doesn't matter, then the in-conference boundaries don't matter whatsoever. The negotiation in-season is a necessity of timing like Russky explained. The unwritten in-conference rules and additional transfer restrictions around in-conference transfers are anti-competitive labor barriers that shouldn't exist. I'm glad we've thrown them out. This is nothing but great for the Big East - it's not great for Providence in the micro, but in the macro-Big East sense this is an incredible move. These Providence games are now our #1 rivalry, the Syracuse stuff is in the past. |
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 22, 2023 9:27:46 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 22, 2023 9:30:43 GMT -5
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Post by RusskyHoya on Mar 22, 2023 9:32:49 GMT -5
Were there any in Roman Catholic Iona U.? He ended up in Roman Catholic St. John’s University signed by its President, the Roman Catholic Rev. Brian J. Shanley, O.P., S.T.L., Ph.D. Are we that “houler than thou” under our longest-termed president? Btw, when does DeGioia step down? Who removes DeGioia? Whenever he wants because no one can tell him otherwise? Sounds very Putin, Xi and John Thompson… there for life or until they want… I need to find the Jesuit’s education philosophy handbook. I remember how Fr. Healy, Beirne and O’Donovan (and others in middle and high school) explained separately how and why Jesuit educators were rotated from one post to another every 10 or so years. Now, we’re working on the 22nd year of DeGioia’s tenure. Is Georgetown no longer following Jesuit education principles? Were there any accusations of basketball improprieties at Iona? Not that I'm aware of, no. But no one is entitled to the job of being head coach at Georgetown (or anywhere else). Just because Brian Shanley - who was, you may recall, the guy who tried to poach Pitino from Louisville while they were a member of the Big East - has one set of standards and Jack DeGioia, whether given his NCAA role or just his personal feelings about how college sports should be, has another, doesn't mean one is acting more "houler than thou" or in line with "Jesuit education principles" or whatever. Neither Jesus nor Ignatius had much to say on the topic of college basketball, remarkably. In any event, Shanley is not a Jesuit, and neither is DeGioia. I'm sure the decision to hire the first lay president was not taken lightly by the Board at the time, and one of the arguments in favor was the very stability that comes with a longer term of service. Is 22 years too long? Everyone's got an opinion about that, but the opinions of the people that matter most - which is to say, not those of anyone on this message board, yours truly included - do not appear to have settled on the affirmative. And so Jack gets to stay in his role, at least until that ambassadorship to the Vatican opens up  |
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 22, 2023 9:35:48 GMT -5
I don’t see a time for the press conference. Is it at 3 pm or noon? |
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Post by This Just In on Mar 22, 2023 9:36:55 GMT -5
Second, if Jack's reason for not even calling Pitino is (partly) due to adhering to doing things "the Georgetown Way", then are the events of this past week (actually months since Cooley and GU officials have been talking since January) "the Georgetown Way"? When I heard that we were in hot pursuit of Cooley, I had mixed feelings (intra-conference coach, big sums of money, lots of secretive maneuvering, etc.), but I figured this is the way it is now in college ball. It's a business & sometimes it gets rough. But what I really regretted is the air of big, rich Georgetown wanting this coach and coming up with whatever it took to get him. Was there actually a legit search? Hard to say, but doesn't seem so. The talks had been going on secretly for months. We seem to be o.k. with letting our prestige and good name carry us as we sometimes act in ways that belie the so-called "Georgetown Way". In the end, I'm happy for our players and overall for the school that our basketball team will get better, etc, but I can't condone the way it all came about. If it is as it seems, I don't think we lived up to the values extolled at the school, what I think of as "the Georgetown Way". In the movie "The Mission" (Deniro, Neeson, Irons - a bunch of others -- great film -- see it if you haven't), 2 Jesuit priests are taking stock of some tragic events for which they were culpable in big ways. In an effort to console and perhaps explain what has happened, one priest says, "Thus is the world." (i.e., "hey, that's how things are. What can you do?") The older Jesuit replies "Thus have we made the world." I want to be matter-of-fact and say that this is the way things are now and everyone does it and who cares as long as we win and get things going again and however else we might justify it all. But, despite the hiring of a coach that will likely turn around the MBB program and make Georgetown basketball fun -- and maybe even great -- again, I feel like maybe we've lost a little something of what we all left campus with after our time and education on the Hilltop, I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm not sure Jack & Co. didn't screw this thing up in some more important ways. While agreeing with your larger point/lament about the continuing free-for-all-ization of college sports... there's a pretty significant difference to me between: 1) Engaging in negotiations with a coach currently employed elsewhere in-season (which the transfer portal timing now makes basically inevitable, lest you really put yourself behind the 8-ball) and paying them "big sums of money" (which is dictated by the labor market) and 2) Hiring a coach who got 120+ wins and a national championship vacated for having a member of his staff hire prostitutes for recruits and has had various other accusations of basketball improprieties follow him throughout his career, from Hawaii to Louisville, that may not have led to him being found culpable by the NCAA, but do clearly add to the "where there's smoke, there's fire" and Occam's Razor side of the scales. (By the way, the NCAA does not have powers of subpoena and warrant, but the FBI does, and their criminal complaint in the Brian Bowen case in which Pitino is the very-much-not-an-innocent-bystander "Coach-2″ remains out there for all to see. Gatto, Code and Dawkins were convicted on the basis of that evidence). The "hiring a coach away from an in-conference team" does strike against a sense of conference unity, but... Providence tried to hire Pops away from Georgetown before hiring Pitino, and tried to hire Pitino away from Louisville when they were in the conference. If any school has any grounds to cry foul, it's not PC. I did not know that. It is really true that what goes around comes around. Thanks for sharing. Do you know why JTII said no to Providence, since he had ties as he played for the school? |
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Mar 22, 2023 9:37:51 GMT -5
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Post by This Just In on Mar 22, 2023 9:41:07 GMT -5
In the movie "The Mission" (Deniro, Neeson, Irons - a bunch of others -- great film -- see it if you haven't), 2 Jesuit priests are taking stock of some tragic events for which they were culpable in big ways. In an effort to console and perhaps explain what has happened, one priest says, "Thus is the world." (i.e., "hey, that's how things are. What can you do?") The older Jesuit replies "Thus have we made the world." I want to be matter-of-fact and say that this is the way things are now and everyone does it and who cares as long as we win and get things going again and however else we might justify it all. But, despite the hiring of a coach that will likely turn around the MBB program and make Georgetown basketball fun -- and maybe even great -- again, I feel like maybe we've lost a little something of what we all left campus with after our time and education on the Hilltop, I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm not sure Jack & Co. didn't screw this thing up in some more important ways. I can't take this "we've lost our soul" nonsense seriously from people who wholeheartedly wanted Rick Pitino. You want to be mad at Jack that he didn't seriously consider Pitino? Nothing wrong with that at all. You want to clutch your pearls that we hired a coach in-conference and negotiated with him during the season instead of hiring Pitino and negotiating with him during the season, and ignoring his past? C'mon. If Pitino's past doesn't matter, then the in-conference boundaries don't matter whatsoever. The negotiation in-season is a necessity of timing like Russky explained. The unwritten in-conference rules and additional transfer restrictions around in-conference transfers are anti-competitive labor barriers that shouldn't exist. I'm glad we've thrown them out. This is nothing but great for the Big East - it's not great for Providence in the micro, but in the macro-Big East sense this is an incredible move. These Providence games are now our #1 rivalry, the Syracuse stuff is in the past. True. When Ed Cooley and the Hoyas go there I expect the Providence fans to be waiting with Torches and Pitch Forks Security will need to be in full effect. |
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 22, 2023 9:41:32 GMT -5
I don’t see a time for the press conference. Is it at 3 pm or noon? Noon. |
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 22, 2023 9:41:36 GMT -5
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Post by prhoya on Mar 22, 2023 9:42:30 GMT -5
Were there any in Roman Catholic Iona U.? He ended up in Roman Catholic St. John’s University signed by its President, the Roman Catholic Rev. Brian J. Shanley, O.P., S.T.L., Ph.D. Are we that “houler than thou” under our longest-termed president? Btw, when does DeGioia step down? Who removes DeGioia? Whenever he wants because no one can tell him otherwise? Sounds very Putin, Xi and John Thompson… there for life or until they want… I need to find the Jesuit’s education philosophy handbook. I remember how Fr. Healy, Beirne and O’Donovan (and others in middle and high school) explained separately how and why Jesuit educators were rotated from one post to another every 10 or so years. Now, we’re working on the 22nd year of DeGioia’s tenure. Is Georgetown no longer following Jesuit education principles? Were there any accusations of basketball improprieties at Iona? Not that I'm aware of, no. But no one is entitled to the job of being head coach at Georgetown (or anywhere else). Just because Brian Shanley - who was, you may recall, the guy who tried to poach Pitino from Louisville while they were a member of the Big East - has one set of standards and Jack DeGioia, whether given his NCAA role or just his personal feelings about how college sports should be, has another, doesn't mean one is acting more "houler than thou" or in line with "Jesuit education principles" or whatever. Neither Jesus nor Ignatius had much to say on the topic of college basketball, remarkably. In any event, Shanley is not a Jesuit, and neither is DeGioia. I'm sure the decision to hire the first lay president was not taken lightly by the Board at the time, and one of the arguments in favor was the very stability that comes with a longer term of service. Is 22 years too long? Everyone's got an opinion about that, but the opinions of the people that matter most - which is to say, not those of anyone on this message board, yours truly included - do not appear to have settled on the affirmative. And so Jack gets to stay in his role, at least until that ambassadorship to the Vatican opens up “But no one is entitled to the job of being head coach at Georgetown (or anywhere else).“ - Oh, I agree with you. “Entitled to the job” is what has Georgetown where we are. So who are “the people that matter the most”? Is he the longest serving president of any Roman Catholic university? |
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 22, 2023 9:44:54 GMT -5
He seems really happy. Must have been miserable at Providence this last year and needed a change |
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Post by hoya9797 on Mar 22, 2023 9:46:34 GMT -5
He seems really happy. Must have been miserable at Providence this last year and needed a change In addition to drawing massive conclusions from single games, you also love to make sweeping statements about people and their frame of mind based on still photography. |
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