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Post by bluegray79 on Dec 4, 2022 19:57:56 GMT -5
That makes sense about Ryan from the looks of things. However, I don't get the vibe from Ryan that he is NBA bound or bust. He tells the story of he and Dikembe meeting people in an airport once when he was a senior in high school and them asking about his top choices for college. He replied that he was thinking UNC or Georgetown, but probably was leaning toward UNC. Dikembe reportedly gave a big smile and his iconic finger wave and made it clear that the choice would be Georgetown.
This is all by way of saying that he's at GU to play ball, sure, but he's also here to get a Georgetown education like his dad did and which his dad often praises and is grateful for what it has done for his life. For that reason, I'd be surprised if Ryan left. He's 7 feet tall and a talented and unique ball player. My son has had him in a couple of classes and has friends in common with Ryan. They barely know each other more than that but Ryan always remembers my kid's name and talks to him with warmth and sincerity whenever they happen to meet. He is well-loved and respected on campus and seems to cherish his life there.
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Post by tashoya on Dec 4, 2022 22:53:56 GMT -5
It's nice to hear that Ryan seems to be enjoying being a GU student. That said, it wouldn't matter where he went to play ball. The kid is never going to sniff an NBA contract. Good on him for realizing his position and his opportunities. All that said, in the current era of college basketball especially, I don't think anyone would take issue with him if he decided to transfer. Also, best of luck to Dante wherever he goes. He'll never get the minutes at the point that he got at Georgetown. But, I'm sure he knows that. Hopefully, he finds a school where he's happier as a player and as a student. Thanks for the memories.
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Post by drquigley on Dec 5, 2022 11:35:11 GMT -5
It's nice to hear that Ryan seems to be enjoying being a GU student. That said, it wouldn't matter where he went to play ball. The kid is never going to sniff an NBA contract. Good on him for realizing his position and his opportunities. All that said, in the current era of college basketball especially, I don't think anyone would take issue with him if he decided to transfer. Also, best of luck to Dante wherever he goes. He'll never get the minutes at the point that he got at Georgetown. But, I'm sure he knows that. Hopefully, he finds a school where he's happier as a player and as a student. Thanks for the memories. You guys are missing the point. Sure Ryan probably isn't an NBA prospect but I'm sure he came to GU to play basketball and not sit on the bench for 4 years. Unless he really doesn't care about basketball and is just here for the education he has to be really frustrated sitting on the bench and not even being given a real chance to show and improve his chops -- especially when our starting center is stinking up the joint. |
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Dec 5, 2022 11:39:53 GMT -5
It's nice to hear that Ryan seems to be enjoying being a GU student. That said, it wouldn't matter where he went to play ball. The kid is never going to sniff an NBA contract. Good on him for realizing his position and his opportunities. All that said, in the current era of college basketball especially, I don't think anyone would take issue with him if he decided to transfer. Also, best of luck to Dante wherever he goes. He'll never get the minutes at the point that he got at Georgetown. But, I'm sure he knows that. Hopefully, he finds a school where he's happier as a player and as a student. Thanks for the memories. You guys are missing the point. Sure Ryan probably isn't an NBA prospect but I'm sure he came to GU to play basketball and not sit on the bench for 4 years. Unless he really doesn't care about basketball and is just here for the education he has to be really frustrated sitting on the bench and not even being given a real chance to show and improve his chops -- especially when our starting center is stinking up the joint. I agree with much of this. To me, the real confusion is that in the short spurts of time Mutombo has played he's actually done pretty well, but then Ewing sits him and he disappears. Like the game where he played 4-5 good minutes in the first half, and then didn't play at all in the second half. He has so much height and size that he's disruptive just by being on the floor. I get it - Wahab is a better player at this point (for all his faults), and Ezewiro takes up more space. To me it's less about total time played and more about it making sense. Maybe in the context of practice Mutombo's usage makes more sense, but to the outsider, it does not (and this is also true for others like Anglin and Riley). |
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Post by gotin2gu4lunch on Dec 5, 2022 18:41:50 GMT -5
I believe EZ-E should be the starter at the 5 with Ryan and Q sharing backup minutes. Q and Ryan are close skill wise, IMO, with Ryan having a better basketball IQ. And if your younger player is close skill wise with your upper class man. The extra minutes should be allotted to the younger player. Q has not improved, catching the ball or going up strong once he catches the ball. I'd rather work thru those problems with Ryan. Who I think can be a better defender at the rim. They both jump at EVERY pump fake, but that's coaching! Q d9es look to have developed a 2nd shot in the paint. But it's a work in progress. Where i think Ryan can hit a jump shot from the foul line extended area, that will allow them to keep the lane clear for the slashing guards. In short,I think Ryan will thrive and grown in a backup roll to EZ-E.
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Post by alleninxis on Dec 6, 2022 8:54:31 GMT -5
I understand the want to see Brad more - and at this point, it's fair - why not? But I believe if given extended minutes he might show himself to be one of the worst defensive players we've ever had (unfortunately, there's been a lot of competition for that title recently).
Ryan not playing - even if he's not capable, that falls squarely on a lack of player development - which also is nothing new.
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drquigley
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Post by drquigley on Dec 6, 2022 13:45:00 GMT -5
Look, unless Ewings plan is to recruit 4-5 transfers every year he has to start developing players. Hey, these kids aren't untalented losers. Riley was NY Player of the Year. Bristol was MEAC Rookie of the Year. And Ryan is a 7 footer who I'm sure had some serious offers from other schools. They deserve much more playing time than they are getting. You're right it's called player development. I've watched all the Hoya games so far either on TV (Except UMBC) or in person and I still have trouble remembering who's who. The fact that we have no players on our roster from the 2018,19, and 20 classes says it all...
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Post by hoyaboya on Dec 6, 2022 14:41:15 GMT -5
Recent likes/retweets by Jordan Riley's dad:
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Post by conshyhoya on Dec 6, 2022 17:17:02 GMT -5
Recent likes/retweets by Jordan Riley's dad: It is baffling how neither of those two can get on the court more. Not like Primo is playing lights out. He doesn't even have Dante numbers from 3 this year. No way any other coach would play Spears 38 minutes a game with this exact roster. |
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Post by seaweed on Dec 6, 2022 17:38:18 GMT -5
It is baffling how neither of those two can get on the court more. Not like Primo is playing lights out. He doesn't even have Dante numbers from 3 this year. No way any other coach would play Spears 38 minutes a game with this exact roster. Just a tad off the thread topic eh? And didn't Monty Riley tweet last week about Jordan having rolled an ankle and not being game ready? There is more than enough accurate info to grumble about without making up reasons to be dissatisfied with this team. In regards former Hoyas, saw this one also |
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Post by mfk24 on Dec 6, 2022 17:42:02 GMT -5
Recent likes/retweets by Jordan Riley's dad: It’s not freaking rocket science. But if he can’t figure it out, he could even set the rotation like they do in the NBA so that barring foul trouble, guys know when they’re coming in and how long they’ll play for. Then ride the starters (minus Q) in the last 4-5 mins. |
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Post by conshyhoya on Dec 6, 2022 18:16:23 GMT -5
It is baffling how neither of those two can get on the court more. Not like Primo is playing lights out. He doesn't even have Dante numbers from 3 this year. No way any other coach would play Spears 38 minutes a game with this exact roster. Just a tad off the thread topic eh? And didn't Monty Riley tweet last week about Jordan having rolled an ankle and not being game ready? There is more than enough accurate info to grumble about without making up reasons to be dissatisfied with this team. In regards former Hoyas, saw this one also I was just responding to something that was posted in the thread already. Riley rolled his ankle two games ago, what about the rest of the season where every time he has been in adding energy and good minutes and it is hit and miss on his PT.
I was wondering why King wasn't playing.
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Post by professorhoya on Dec 7, 2022 17:00:36 GMT -5
It is baffling how neither of those two can get on the court more. Not like Primo is playing lights out. He doesn't even have Dante numbers from 3 this year. No way any other coach would play Spears 38 minutes a game with this exact roster. Just a tad off the thread topic eh? And didn't Monty Riley tweet last week about Jordan having rolled an ankle and not being game ready? There is more than enough accurate info to grumble about without making up reasons to be dissatisfied with this team. In regards former Hoyas, saw this one also Tre King lost 2 inches transferring to Iowa State. Used to be 6-9. |
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 7, 2022 17:41:41 GMT -5
I wonder if Iowa State is pinning all its hopes and dreams on Tre King?
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Post by BeantownHoya on Dec 9, 2022 7:15:55 GMT -5
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Dec 9, 2022 8:30:46 GMT -5
That was part of the problem- we had guys who would end up playing for the Delaware Blue Coats and WESTCHESTER Knicks believing that they would be playing in the NBA Finals.
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Post by alleninxis on Dec 9, 2022 9:37:18 GMT -5
When your entire recruiting pitch is that you know how to get to the NBA, what else could you expect.
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Post by Elvado on Dec 9, 2022 9:43:24 GMT -5
When your entire recruiting pitch is that you know how to get to the NBA, what else could you expect. He did know how to get to the NBA. Unfortunately, he can’t show anyone else. Ted Williams was one of the greatest hitters ever. He was a flop as a manager. |
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Post by DFW HOYA on Dec 9, 2022 10:00:54 GMT -5
Ted Williams was one of the greatest hitters ever. He was a flop as a manager. He coached the Senators and the Rangers. How would he have fared coaching the Big Red Machine? Asking this when reviewing Joe Torre's managerial record prior to 1996. Mets: 286-420 Cardinals: 251-354 |
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Post by bigskyhoya on Dec 9, 2022 10:05:09 GMT -5
That was part of the problem- we had guys who would end up playing for the Delaware Blue Coats and WESTCHESTER Knicks believing that they would be playing in the NBA Finals. They are among the most talented recruits of the Ewing era, proven by the fact that are playing at the next level, and not the only high school kids with grand aspirations. Recruiting them was not the problem. Failing to teach them how to play together and for the betterment of the team was the problem. |
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