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Post by prhoya on Nov 27, 2022 22:13:59 GMT -5
Impossible to prove one way or the other… why didn’t he get so many blocks vs all the OOC cupcakes we played the previous years? What about Q, who has one less block than games played this year? It’s the coaching. They are not used correctly. I'm not defending Ewing because I agree he doesn't use his players correctly or we would have way more wins. Tim didn't really play in that cupcake schedule between the broken hand and concussion. Prior years he didn't play any real minutes. In the 4 games he did play real minutes in that cupcake schedule he had 6 blocks and 2 double digit rebound games. Not sure what Q has to do with how Tim performed because you can use the opposite argument with Akok. Akok came ready to go. He was a proven college basketball defensive commodity and a player who couldxstep out and shoot 3s. Pat has had nothing to do with his development. On the other hand, Q and Tim were brought in as freshmen and Pat could not develop their defensive skills. |
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Post by conshyhoya on Nov 27, 2022 22:29:27 GMT -5
I'm not defending Ewing because I agree he doesn't use his players correctly or we would have way more wins. Tim didn't really play in that cupcake schedule between the broken hand and concussion. Prior years he didn't play any real minutes. In the 4 games he did play real minutes in that cupcake schedule he had 6 blocks and 2 double digit rebound games. Not sure what Q has to do with how Tim performed because you can use the opposite argument with Akok. Akok came ready to go. He was a proven college basketball defensive commodity and a player who couldxstep out and shoot 3s. Pat has had nothing to do with his development. On the other hand, Q and Tim were brought in as freshmen and Pat could not develop their defensive skills. Once again I'm not defending Ewing because I agree with you. I'm stating it isn't hurting Tim playing against weaker competition. If he was on pretty much any power 5 team he wouldn't even get any minutes outside garbage time. |
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Post by tgo on Nov 27, 2022 22:44:32 GMT -5
Akok came ready to go. He was a proven college basketball defensive commodity and a player who couldxstep out and shoot 3s. Pat has had nothing to do with his development. On the other hand, Q and Tim were brought in as freshmen and Pat could not develop their defensive skills. Once again I'm not defending Ewing because I agree with you. I'm stating it isn't hurting Tim playing against weaker competition. If he was on pretty much any power 5 team he wouldn't even get any minutes outside garbage time. You can not say they are getting good numbers because it is against inferior competition because they all have played tougher schedules, thus far, than the Hoyas have. Obviously that will change once conference season starts but right now they have played higher level competition than their replacements have. And they are putting up numbers far better than what they did as Hoyas and better than most of their replacements have thus far this year. No one is saying Tim or many of the others would get rotation level minutes (whether that is the 37 minutes per game Ewing plays the 6 people he deems worthy of play time or the much lower amount on any other team in the country) on a good team, but that when so many layers appear to be better when not playing for the Hoyas, that is indicative of something. |
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Post by prhoya on Nov 27, 2022 22:44:55 GMT -5
Akok came ready to go. He was a proven college basketball defensive commodity and a player who couldxstep out and shoot 3s. Pat has had nothing to do with his development. On the other hand, Q and Tim were brought in as freshmen and Pat could not develop their defensive skills. Once again I'm not defending Ewing because I agree with you. I'm stating it isn't hurting Tim playing against weaker competition. If he was on pretty much any power 5 team he wouldn't even get any minutes outside garbage time. Since it’s impossible to prove either way, I’ll leave it here. But we agree on Ewing. |
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Post by hoyaboya on Nov 28, 2022 21:13:53 GMT -5
Also, don't look now, but Ighoefe's Cal Baptist is only two spots behind Georgetown in the latest KenPom rankings. kenpom.com |
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Post by TC on Nov 29, 2022 8:41:19 GMT -5
Once again I'm not defending Ewing because I agree with you. I'm stating it isn't hurting Tim playing against weaker competition. If he was on pretty much any power 5 team he wouldn't even get any minutes outside garbage time. You keep making the argument that Tim and the others are playing against weaker competition and that that is the reason for their success so far, but the level of competition every one of the kids in this thread are playing against so far is better than Georgetown's - the SoS numbers don't lie. I don't buy the argument that Beard or Billingsley or Ighoefe or Holloway or Sibley couldn't play in a major conference. |
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Post by hoyaboya on Nov 29, 2022 8:48:51 GMT -5
Once again I'm not defending Ewing because I agree with you. I'm stating it isn't hurting Tim playing against weaker competition. If he was on pretty much any power 5 team he wouldn't even get any minutes outside garbage time. You keep making the argument that Tim and the others are playing against weaker competition and that that is the reason for their success so far, but the level of competition every one of the kids in this thread are playing against so far is better than Georgetown's - the SoS numbers don't lie. I don't buy the argument that Beard or Billingsley or Ighoefe or Holloway or Sibley couldn't play in a major conference. After Northwestern's loss to Pitt last night, Cal Baptist is now ahead of Georgetown in KenPom. Pretty difficult to argue currently that Ighoefe is playing at a lower level than his former teammates. |
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Post by bills on Nov 29, 2022 9:05:00 GMT -5
Once again I'm not defending Ewing because I agree with you. I'm stating it isn't hurting Tim playing against weaker competition. If he was on pretty much any power 5 team he wouldn't even get any minutes outside garbage time. You keep making the argument that Tim and the others are playing against weaker competition and that that is the reason for their success so far, but the level of competition every one of the kids in this thread are playing against so far is better than Georgetown's - the SoS numbers don't lie. I don't buy the argument that Beard or Billingsley or Ighoefe or Holloway or Sibley couldn't play in a major conference. I would take Wahab over Tim. |
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Post by conshyhoya on Nov 29, 2022 9:54:08 GMT -5
Once again I'm not defending Ewing because I agree with you. I'm stating it isn't hurting Tim playing against weaker competition. If he was on pretty much any power 5 team he wouldn't even get any minutes outside garbage time. You keep making the argument that Tim and the others are playing against weaker competition and that that is the reason for their success so far, but the level of competition every one of the kids in this thread are playing against so far is better than Georgetown's - the SoS numbers don't lie. I don't buy the argument that Beard or Billingsley or Ighoefe or Holloway or Sibley couldn't play in a major conference. Yeah but they aren't on the team this year so it is irrelevant to any argument what the current SOS is for the current team. What was the overall SOS the year's they played?
I agree Collin can play in a major conference and have said that from the beginning. Tulane is a good team anyway. He had success against good teams here too. KC can too but his numbers would be down some considering they played 2 division 2 teams. He is a glue guy which fits well at any level. Really what player that started at a high major and went to a lower conference wouldn't have better numbers playing against weaker teams? I think JB has potential but really his numbers so far aren't great and his only Power 5 game against Michigan he was horrible. Beard has played really well at Pacific but their only Power 5 game against Stanford he had just as many TOs as points and easily his worst game of the season. Tim is always going to be based off of match ups and he certainly isn't a high major player but can have some success against good teams if they have a similar immobile big. He played well against Seton Hall last year both games and this year against Washington but his overall consistency isn't there and outside 2 games his numbers are meh at Cal Baptist including a game against Minnesota. Sibley has not really been anything special for UTEP in either year and floats in and out of the starting lineup so you think he would do just as good in a high major? Berger transferred from San Diego to Lafayette because he couldn't get playing time there so now playing at Lafayette isn't helping him since he is playing competition more to his level?
What is your argument? All these players are high major players and would do just as good against better competition if they just had competent coaching? How good is the coaching at these teams? Eastern Michigan is 1-6 with Bates who probably will be in the NBA and haven't really played anyone outside Michigan. Pacific has a losing record. Cal Baptist did beat Washington so theirs might be ok. Tulane's coach is good but so is Collin so I wasn't including him in this anyway. I'm not defending Ewing. I wouldn't have hired him and I certainly wouldn't have kept him this long if I did. Some of these players are definitely going to benefit from different coaching like KC. The fact that he couldn't get any minutes on last years team should be a crime. But most will benefit more from playing competition that is more their level.
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Post by EasyEd on Nov 29, 2022 14:53:41 GMT -5
Aminu Mohammed plays on Delaware in the g league, the same team as McClung. Mohammed used sparingly. In last four games he has averaged 15.25 minutes, 6.25 points, 4 rebounds, and 2.75 fouls.
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Post by prhoya on Nov 29, 2022 21:59:22 GMT -5
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Post by thedragon on Dec 3, 2022 16:08:16 GMT -5
NOTE: This is, to date, unconfirmed on the portal web sites.--Admin
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Post by hoyaboya on Dec 3, 2022 16:14:33 GMT -5
Least shocking news of the day. |
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Post by thedragon on Dec 3, 2022 16:16:20 GMT -5
Least shocking news of the day. He could be eligible immediately for his new school and playing in a few weeks. |
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Post by prhoya on Dec 3, 2022 16:18:30 GMT -5
NOTE: This is, to date, unconfirmed on the portal web sites.--Admin One smart kid! The Ewing mid-Fall semester transfer tradition continues! |
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Post by thedragon on Dec 3, 2022 16:30:39 GMT -5
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 3, 2022 16:47:04 GMT -5
How many Ewing freshman recruits have now transferred out? It’s got to be at least 15. This is so broken and has nothing to do with modern college sports and freedom of movement.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Dec 3, 2022 17:20:06 GMT -5
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Post by hoyaboya on Dec 3, 2022 17:21:53 GMT -5
Insane stat - thanks for posting. Ryan Mutombo and Jordan Riley are the only ones still around from the next class, correct? |
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Dec 3, 2022 17:25:09 GMT -5
Insane stat - thanks for posting. Ryan Mutombo and Jordan Riley are the only ones still around from the next class, correct? Correct. What a disgrace. |
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