hoyajmw
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Post by hoyajmw on Apr 9, 2023 8:09:53 GMT -5
That’s the bias we have as Georgetown fans. Most schools aren’t as selective or expensive as Georgetown, so the “value” of the scholarship itself isn’t as high. It was often maddening to hear people say that the players “get nothing” when at a school like GU they (a) are admitted ahead of thousands of applicants who may have better academic credentials and (b) don’t have to pay the hefty sticker price of tuition, room, and board. But that’s not universal. In our GU-centric world it’s easy to forget that some of these schools admit 70-plus percent of their applicants and (for in-state kids, at least) cost a mere fraction of what GU does. The privilege of being admitted and attending for free at, say, Kansas, simply isn’t the same. (And to be clear, I’m not making a value-of-the-degree argument here. I’m just saying that from a pure, out-of-pocket cost-to-attend perspective, a GU scholarship is more valuable than a comparable scholarship at a lot of other schools.) I guess my point is that while we the HoyaTalk crowd might view a scholarship to GU as an inherently valuable thing, I don’t think any major basketball recruit is weighing the value of scholarships based on the cost of attendance at the given schools. (Maybe they’ll learn to look at it that way after taking an intro Econ course!) Most it the big-time recruits have probably long since internalized the idea that school will be free by the time the decide where to commit, and don’t give a lot of though to how much one scholarship is worth compared to another. (Again, talking pure out-of-pocket worth here. For a NoVa kid UVa is probably less expensive to attend than PC, but the Virginia degree is probably “worth” more.) From our perspective, if a player is “worth” six figures in NIL money, what’s another $60k? I suppose we could imagine a world where the NCAA admits that NIL is pay-for-play, outlaws scholarships, and pushes the cost of funding tuition, room, and board onto the collectives. The end result for basketball and football players would probably be the same, though, and it would wreak havoc on non-revenue sports. Agree with this sentiment, especially the “value of the education” point (and as I recall JTjr used to decry the lack of appreciation of that too when pay for play was being pushed hard). That is one of the reasons why the portal entry of some guys who say “ok, now that I’m leaving GU I might go to Mississippi State” is rather aggravating/insulting. But there is zero chance limits on scholarships become a thing in the NIL age. Capitalism and competition, baby… |
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 12, 2023 17:02:54 GMT -5
Good for him…
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SDHoya
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Post by SDHoya on Apr 12, 2023 17:06:21 GMT -5
Oscar Tshiebwe apparently had no trouble raking in the NIL bucks at UK. Where there is a will there is a way. |
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seaweed
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Post by seaweed on Apr 12, 2023 19:44:49 GMT -5
Hard to imagine a better branding fit. #Sanogo |
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Apr 12, 2023 22:49:13 GMT -5
Interesting NIL pivot.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 13, 2023 9:37:11 GMT -5
Interesting...
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 13, 2023 9:37:52 GMT -5
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 13, 2023 9:43:15 GMT -5
Hedging bets on Mediocre Kyle Neptune |
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 13, 2023 9:43:53 GMT -5
Give to the George Mason Friars |
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 13, 2023 9:48:29 GMT -5
Hedging bets on Mediocre Kyle Neptune What's Duleaveys career record? 86-93.--Admin |
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TC
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Post by TC on Apr 13, 2023 9:48:51 GMT -5
Hedging bets on Mediocre Kyle Neptune I don't know if they are hedging their bets so much as they are minimizing his role. |
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 13, 2023 10:08:39 GMT -5
Hedging bets on Mediocre Kyle Neptune What's Duleaveys career record? Baker Dunleavey 20-12 (3rd place) Mediocre Kyle Neptune Fordham 16-16 (8th place) Villanova 17-17 (tied for 6th place) |
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 13, 2023 10:13:06 GMT -5
Hedging bets on Mediocre Kyle Neptune What's Duleaveys career record? 86-93 at Quinnipiac - 53-59 in conference. Baker Dunleavy's record at Quinnipiac doesn't given an indication that he would be substantially better than Neptune. |
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 13, 2023 10:17:17 GMT -5
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 13, 2023 10:29:59 GMT -5
What's Duleaveys career record? Baker Dunleavey 20-12 (3rd place) Mediocre Kyle Neptune Fordham 16-16 (8th place) Villanova 17-17 (tied for 6th place) Professor Deflection gives another master class |
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 13, 2023 10:35:38 GMT -5
Baker Dunleavey 20-12 (3rd place) Mediocre Kyle Neptune Fordham 16-16 (8th place) Villanova 17-17 (tied for 6th place) Professor Deflection gives another master class Deflector Shields up |
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 13, 2023 10:37:41 GMT -5
Professor Deflection gives another master class Deflector Shields up We finally agree on something! |
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Apr 13, 2023 11:37:23 GMT -5
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Apr 14, 2023 10:46:38 GMT -5
Numbers are suspect at the moment  |
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Apr 14, 2023 10:48:09 GMT -5
Numbers are suspect at the moment |
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