dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Apr 27, 2021 13:39:51 GMT -5
Holloway is looking alot leaner. Yes, he is! That's good. He's transforming himself.
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Post by jctnhoya4ever on Apr 28, 2021 19:56:22 GMT -5
My prediction would be as of today- starters pg-Harris Sg-Carey Sf-rice pf-king. C-mutombo just my opinion and the next 5 would be. Pg-beard. Sg-the freshman McDonald’s all American guard. Sf-Riley he is a sleeper to really be good right away real good may start. Pf-Holloway and center big Timothy,and still have Kobe Clark and the other freshman small forward billingsley.and Wilson so everyone once big east start should not be playing.I hope it’s around 8 man rotation once big east starts.maybe 9 if not much dropoff. 8-9 is good depth in conference.go Hoyas.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Apr 28, 2021 20:14:03 GMT -5
My prediction would be as of today- starters pg-Harris Sg-Carey Sf-rice pf-king. C-mutombo just my opinion and the next 5 would be. Pg-beard. Sg-the freshman McDonald’s all American guard. Sf-Riley he is a sleeper to really be good right away real good may start. Pf-Holloway and center big Timothy,and still have Kobe Clark and the other freshman small forward billingsley.and Wilson so everyone once big east start should not be playing.I hope it’s around 8 man rotation once big east starts.maybe 9 if not much dropoff. 8-9 is good depth in conference.go Hoyas. There’s not a chance in hell that Aminu will come off the bench lol
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Post by jctnhoya4ever on Apr 28, 2021 21:09:32 GMT -5
I hope he starts but I going strictly by experience and know freshman sometime take a little adjustment period.I hope he is that good to come right in and start,and produce right away.go Hoyas.
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saxagael
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Post by saxagael on Apr 28, 2021 21:50:56 GMT -5
My prediction would be as of today- starters pg-Harris Sg-Carey Sf-rice pf-king. C-mutombo just my opinion and the next 5 would be. Pg-beard. Sg-the freshman McDonald’s all American guard. Sf-Riley he is a sleeper to really be good right away real good may start. Pf-Holloway and center big Timothy,and still have Kobe Clark and the other freshman small forward billingsley.and Wilson so everyone once big east start should not be playing.I hope it’s around 8 man rotation once big east starts.maybe 9 if not much dropoff. 8-9 is good depth in conference.go Hoyas. There’s not a chance in hell that Aminu will come off the bench lol Agree! Harris at PG with Aminu, Rice, King / Sibley / Billingsly, and Mutombo / Ighoefe. Sibley likely would be a stretch big wing. Holloway likely wing. Beard backing up Harris and with Carey and Riley behind Aminu. But, this is a really interesting group of talented athletes who are really good and a lot of wildly different looks and line-ups. This has me excited for next year and beyond.
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hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on Apr 29, 2021 4:22:51 GMT -5
My prediction would be as of today- starters pg-Harris Sg-Carey Sf-rice pf-king. C-mutombo just my opinion and the next 5 would be. Pg-beard. Sg-the freshman McDonald’s all American guard. Sf-Riley he is a sleeper to really be good right away real good may start. Pf-Holloway and center big Timothy,and still have Kobe Clark and the other freshman small forward billingsley.and Wilson so everyone once big east start should not be playing.I hope it’s around 8 man rotation once big east starts.maybe 9 if not much dropoff. 8-9 is good depth in conference.go Hoyas. There’s not a chance in hell that Aminu will come off the bench lol jtc he's a 5* kid. There isn't enough adjustment for DC to keep him on the bench. In fact if he was in the '20 recruiting class Juggy probably wouldn't have kept him from starting... lol
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dense
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Post by dense on Apr 29, 2021 7:17:14 GMT -5
There’s not a chance in hell that Aminu will come off the bench lol jtc he's a 5* kid. There isn't enough adjustment for DC to keep him on the bench. In fact if he was in the '20 recruiting class Juggy probably wouldn't have kept him from starting... lol Aminu is more of a 3 then a 2. I mean it doesn't matter much but he is definitely starting over Rice and Carey. I strongly suspect that Riley and Aminu will be starting and Rice and Carey will come off the bench but playing major minutes.
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hoyaguy
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Post by hoyaguy on May 1, 2021 15:21:06 GMT -5
Unless riley is totally ready from the get go I feel like Aminu‘s starting position will be based on if rice is better than Carey so then Aminu would be a 2 (Which is what reports seem to think he would play in the nba eventually) otherwise he is a 3 from day 1 i think and also somewhat opponent dependent but our team flexibility especially with Aminu and riley is very helpful
More importantly I’ve let the whole PBJ thing go because it is annoying waiting in the back of my mind so as long as we get him or Pickett then I think we are locked and loaded for next season
At the moment: Dante, Carey, Aminu, king, Tim Hopefully(/realistically I hope): Dante, Carey, Aminu, Pickett/PBJ, king That is a strong side that can be top 4 or 5 and make the tournament
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Post by madhoya on May 4, 2021 5:56:36 GMT -5
Departed or expected to depart: Jahvon Blair (15.4 PPG), Qudus Wahab (12.7 PPG), Jamorko Pickett (12.2 PPG), Chudier Bile (10.2 PPG), T.J. Berger (1.4 PPG) In limbo: Jalen Harris (4.0 PPG) Expected to return: Donald Carey (8.0 PPG), Dante Harris (8.0 PPG), Timothy Ighoefe (2.5 PPG), Jamari Sibley (1.2 PPG) Newcomers: Aminu Mohammed (No. 25), Jordan Riley (four-star), Ryan Mutombo (four-star), Jalin Billingsley (three-star), Tyler Beard (three-star), Tre King (14.9 PPG at Eastern Kentucky), Kaiden Rice (17.6 PPG at The Citadel)
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Post by TC on May 4, 2021 7:46:04 GMT -5
In limbo: Jalen Harris (4.0 PPG) Is Jalen Harris really "in limbo"? I realize his picture is on a milk carton somewhere, but is there any reason to believe he's coming back ever?
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Post by rockhoya on May 4, 2021 9:17:39 GMT -5
In limbo: Jalen Harris (4.0 PPG) Is Jalen Harris really "in limbo"? I realize his picture is on a milk carton somewhere, but is there any reason to believe he's coming back ever? Is there any reason to believe he’s definitively gone? That’s the better question to ask if we’re trying to ascertain his status. Have you heard of any moves he’s made? Last I heard a few months ago he was intent on transferring, but is his name in the portal? If not, by definition it would seem he might be in limbo. As for why he might come back “ever”? Georgetown is a great program to play for. Maybe, just maybe, he ended up liking his teammates and his new environment. We’re gonna be pretty good next year and Ewing needs a backup plan for a backup PG with experience and Jalen would be a good fit since he already understands his relationship to Dante. It’s definitely a long shot but nobody knows what’s going to happen at this point. There are still a lot of dominoes to fall in the college basketball world and I suspect there are several players on the roster waiting to see what will happen before making a final decision. It’s still May.
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Post by bigskyhoya on May 4, 2021 16:18:03 GMT -5
Is Jalen Harris really "in limbo"? I realize his picture is on a milk carton somewhere, but is there any reason to believe he's coming back ever? Is there any reason to believe he’s definitively gone? That’s the better question to ask if we’re trying to ascertain his status. Have you heard of any moves he’s made? Last I heard a few months ago he was intent on transferring, but is his name in the portal? If not, by definition it would seem he might be in limbo. As for why he might come back “ever”? Georgetown is a great program to play for. Maybe, just maybe, he ended up liking his teammates and his new environment. We’re gonna be pretty good next year and Ewing needs a backup plan for a backup PG with experience and Jalen would be a good fit since he already understands his relationship to Dante. It’s definitely a long shot but nobody knows what’s going to happen at this point. There are still a lot of dominoes to fall in the college basketball world and I suspect there are several players on the roster waiting to see what will happen before making a final decision. It’s still May. And there it is in a nutshell. One sees the glass half full and the other half empty.
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 4, 2021 18:31:49 GMT -5
As for why he might come back “ever”? Georgetown is a great program to play for. Maybe, just maybe, he ended up liking his teammates and his new environment. We’re gonna be pretty good next year and Ewing needs a backup plan for a backup PG with experience and Jalen would be a good fit since he already understands his relationship to Dante. It’s definitely a long shot but nobody knows what’s going to happen at this point. There are still a lot of dominoes to fall in the college basketball world and I suspect there are several players on the roster waiting to see what will happen before making a final decision. It’s still May. The Jalen Harris story is a mystery befitting the secretive nature of Georgetown basketball, and one not seen on the Hilltop in a quarter century. In an age of social media, the idea that a major college player goes off the grid for almost six months, with no clues as to his present or future whereabouts, is in the best tradition of the Bill Shapland era at Sports Information. The only comparable story of intrigue is of Eric Micoud, whose college career mysteriously ended the day Allen Iverson was admitted and a scholarship opened up. According to the Washington Post, Micoud was a "native of France" (actually, he was born in Benin) who had to serve one year in the military per the French conscription law, which was for 18 year old French citizens. (Micoud was 22 by this point.) "We understand Eric's obligation...and fully expect to welcome him back in a year," Thompson said in the press release. Except Micoud never came back. Assuming he was in military service, he did so also playing on the Besancon BCD pro team which won the French B-league basketball title. Micoud played 15 years in the French professional leagues. In one sense, stories like this are part of my frustration with the John Thompson autobiography. So much of the story was told through the lens of Jesse Washington, who has written and focused on the intersection race and sport, that Thompson's actual coaching tenure is in some cases a sidebar of the book. The book talks about Ewing, Mourning, Mutombo, and Iverson but a lot of stories outside that group either weren't pursued or Washington didn't feel they were germane to the story. More on this subject for another time, but with many of the names and faces of the past no longer with us, stories like Eric Micoud go into the ether, much like the story of Jalen Harris has to date.
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Post by the_way on May 4, 2021 18:56:45 GMT -5
Harris took a leave of absence and it was said due to a family issue. It is understandable that people want their privacy with regard to such matters.
In that regard, it was handled appropriately.
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Post by kghoya on May 4, 2021 19:33:51 GMT -5
As for why he might come back “ever”? Georgetown is a great program to play for. Maybe, just maybe, he ended up liking his teammates and his new environment. We’re gonna be pretty good next year and Ewing needs a backup plan for a backup PG with experience and Jalen would be a good fit since he already understands his relationship to Dante. It’s definitely a long shot but nobody knows what’s going to happen at this point. There are still a lot of dominoes to fall in the college basketball world and I suspect there are several players on the roster waiting to see what will happen before making a final decision. It’s still May. The Jalen Harris story is a mystery befitting the secretive nature of Georgetown basketball, and one not seen on the Hilltop in a quarter century. In an age of social media, the idea that a major college player goes off the grid for almost six months, with no clues as to his present or future whereabouts, is in the best tradition of the Bill Shapland era at Sports Information. The only comparable story of intrigue is of Eric Micoud, whose college career mysteriously ended the day Allen Iverson was admitted and a scholarship opened up. According to the Washington Post, Micoud was a "native of France" (actually, he was born in Benin) who had to serve one year in the military per the French conscription law, which was for 18 year old French citizens. (Micoud was 22 by this point.) "We understand Eric's obligation...and fully expect to welcome him back in a year," Thompson said in the press release. Except Micoud never came back. Assuming he was in military service, he did so also playing on the Besancon BCD pro team which won the French B-league basketball title. Micoud played 15 years in the French professional leagues. In one sense, stories like this are part of my frustration with the John Thompson autobiography. So much of the story was told through the lens of Jesse Washington, who has written and focused on the intersection race and sport, that Thompson's actual coaching tenure is in some cases a sidebar of the book. The book talks about Ewing, Mourning, Mutombo, and Iverson but a lot of stories outside that group either weren't pursued or Washington didn't feel they were germane to the story. More on this subject for another time, but with many of the names and faces of the past no longer with us, stories like Eric Micoud go into the ether, much like the story of Jalen Harris has to date. Looking back they should have sent George Butler packing. Not that I condone sending college athletes packing but since that's what they did, they clearly picked the wrong guy.
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Post by professorhoya on May 4, 2021 20:56:13 GMT -5
As for why he might come back “ever”? Georgetown is a great program to play for. Maybe, just maybe, he ended up liking his teammates and his new environment. We’re gonna be pretty good next year and Ewing needs a backup plan for a backup PG with experience and Jalen would be a good fit since he already understands his relationship to Dante. It’s definitely a long shot but nobody knows what’s going to happen at this point. There are still a lot of dominoes to fall in the college basketball world and I suspect there are several players on the roster waiting to see what will happen before making a final decision. It’s still May. The Jalen Harris story is a mystery befitting the secretive nature of Georgetown basketball, and one not seen on the Hilltop in a quarter century. In an age of social media, the idea that a major college player goes off the grid for almost six months, with no clues as to his present or future whereabouts, is in the best tradition of the Bill Shapland era at Sports Information. The only comparable story of intrigue is of Eric Micoud, whose college career mysteriously ended the day Allen Iverson was admitted and a scholarship opened up. According to the Washington Post, Micoud was a "native of France" (actually, he was born in Benin) who had to serve one year in the military per the French conscription law, which was for 18 year old French citizens. (Micoud was 22 by this point.) "We understand Eric's obligation...and fully expect to welcome him back in a year," Thompson said in the press release. Except Micoud never came back. Assuming he was in military service, he did so also playing on the Besancon BCD pro team which won the French B-league basketball title. Micoud played 15 years in the French professional leagues. In one sense, stories like this are part of my frustration with the John Thompson autobiography. So much of the story was told through the lens of Jesse Washington, who has written and focused on the intersection race and sport, that Thompson's actual coaching tenure is in some cases a sidebar of the book. The book talks about Ewing, Mourning, Mutombo, and Iverson but a lot of stories outside that group either weren't pursued or Washington didn't feel they were germane to the story. More on this subject for another time, but with many of the names and faces of the past no longer with us, stories like Eric Micoud go into the ether, much like the story of Jalen Harris has to date. Should they have said, sorry Iversen, we have no scholarships available, you can’t play for us?
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on May 4, 2021 21:25:45 GMT -5
Is there any reason to believe he’s definitively gone? That’s the better question to ask if we’re trying to ascertain his status. Of course, none of us know for sure since there is no information out there. The more informative question is, what's likely? I would argue that given what we know, it's much more likely he's gone for the following reasons: 1. He left for a family-related leave, never to be heard from again. 2. Georgetown has essentially acted as though he is not part of the team, not listing him at the banquet, etc. 3. We are already either at or above the scholarship limit without Jalen Harris, and Harris is not good enough to warrant bumping someone else out. 4. Dante Harris was probably better than Jalen Harris when Jalen left, and that is almost certainly true now. Dante Harris' fairly solid year of play, combined with the talent we have coming in, means that even if he was on the roster, Jalen Harris' time on the court would (appropriately) be very limited anyway. So yeah, we have no clue what his status is, because Georgetown doesn't announce those things, and Jalen Harris himself has not said anything. But, I think it's way more likely he's NOT coming back based on those factors. In fact, I cannot think of a single factor weighing the other way (in favor of him coming back).
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 4, 2021 21:46:55 GMT -5
Should they have said, sorry Iversen, we have no scholarships available, you can’t play for us? The 1993-94 recruiting class was one of Georgetown's best, but John Thompson overrecruited. There were four open scholarships as all four seniors from the 1989-90 recruiting class graduated on time (Joey Brown, Vladimir Bosanac, Robert Churchwell, Lamont Morgan). Georgetown signs two in the early period: Jahidi White and Boubacar Aw. A third is signed on April 27 in Jerry Nichols, thought at the time to be the big-time guard to carry GU forward. Next, with the Iverson story percolating and Duane Spencer concerned as to his future (read=Jahidi White coming aboard), Thompson announces on May 25, 1994 Spencer is not returning to the team to support his family. Spencer actually transfers to LSU and plays two more seasons there. GU now has two open scholarships in June, whereupon they announce three signings: Iverson, Jerome Williams, and Eric Myles. Could a decision on Myles have waited if they held the decision until Iverson's release was secure in late July? Instead, now one scholarship over the limit, Iverson's arrival on campus was timed with the announcement that Micoud was leaving. Four years (if available) of Micoud would have been a better play than Myles, who transferred after the fall 1995 semester, playing in just three games as a sophomore behind Allen Iverson and four freshmen guards: Victor Page, Daymond Jackson, Joe Touomou, and a walk-on in Dean Berry.
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Post by bicentennial on May 4, 2021 21:53:54 GMT -5
Is there any reason to believe he’s definitively gone? That’s the better question to ask if we’re trying to ascertain his status. Of course, none of us know for sure since there is no information out there. The more informative question is, what's likely? I would argue that given what we know, it's much more likely he's gone for the following reasons: 1. He left for a family-related leave, never to be heard from again. 2. Georgetown has essentially acted as though he is not part of the team, not listing him at the banquet, etc. 3. We are already either at or above the scholarship limit without Jalen Harris, and Harris is not good enough to warrant bumping someone else out. 4. Dante Harris was probably better than Jalen Harris when Jalen left, and that is almost certainly true now. Dante Harris' fairly solid year of play, combined with the talent we have coming in, means that even if he was on the roster, Jalen Harris' time on the court would (appropriately) be very limited anyway. So yeah, we have no clue what his status is, because Georgetown doesn't announce those things, and Jalen Harris himself has not said anything. But, I think it's way more likely he's NOT coming back based on those factors. In fact, I cannot think of a single factor weighing the other way (in favor of him coming back). The fact he would not be a counter as a graduate student with the free year of eligibility if her returns to Georgetown is the only reason to think he might come back. Since he did not get to play and did not get to work on his graduate degree perhaps he would come back to do both unlike in other years where that would not have been an option. Can't think it would hurt to have a 3rd point guard since one of our two will be a true freshman and Dante would be better at the end of the season if he doesn't have to play extended minutes when we have a game already won.
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Post by the_way on May 4, 2021 22:19:21 GMT -5
Spencer played less during his sophomore year compared to his freshmen year. Part of it was due to injury, but also the emergence of Don Reid that year. He wasn't going to take Don's spot and Don's play was an upgrade at the 4. Not because of incoming Jahidi White. If that were the case, less talented Ya-Ya Dia (at the time) was on the team too. He could have been pushed out as well for White who actually played the same/similar position as Dia and Othella. Dia and Othella could play inside. Spencer just wasn't a center despite his height. Coach had him at the 4 and other positions at times (running the point at Pitt during his freshmen year). Actually, I think JT2 envisioned Spencer as the player Jerome Williams was later. Less on the boards, but more being a forward who can handle the rock and create matchup problems with his height.
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