EtomicB
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 15,429
|
Post by EtomicB on May 13, 2024 18:25:13 GMT -5
Feels like this is trying to apply a level of unnecessary precision to something that is, to be generous, an inexact science. Yes. I find it amusing that they make a big deal about how Georgetown is "4 points behind SJU, a significant gap, 17 spots in the national rankings." Meanwhile, Providence is ranked lower than us, so by definition, they are even more spots behind in the national rankings than we are. It's kind of a self-own without realizing it. I have never seen a fan base so obsessed with a former coach. What is really happening here with these trolls is that they are trying desperately to convince themselves that they're better off without the guy they really, really, really, wanted to be coaching their team. If he was so bad, then they should be happy he's gone and be more focused on their future. Pretty sure Franklin General is a fan of St. John's, not PC |
|
guru
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 6,674
|
Post by guru on May 13, 2024 19:16:56 GMT -5
Yes. I find it amusing that they make a big deal about how Georgetown is "4 points behind SJU, a significant gap, 17 spots in the national rankings." Meanwhile, Providence is ranked lower than us, so by definition, they are even more spots behind in the national rankings than we are. It's kind of a self-own without realizing it. I have never seen a fan base so obsessed with a former coach. What is really happening here with these trolls is that they are trying desperately to convince themselves that they're better off without the guy they really, really, really, wanted to be coaching their team. If he was so bad, then they should be happy he's gone and be more focused on their future. Pretty sure Franklin General is a fan of St. John's, not PC That’s correct. Also the PC folks should just be happy at this point - English has them cooking and is recruiting at a level equal to or better than Cooley did when he was there. Their continued obsession with Cooley at this point is really deranged. |
|
daveg023
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 5,410 
|
Post by daveg023 on May 15, 2024 18:18:46 GMT -5
|
|
hoyaboya
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 12,750
|
Post by hoyaboya on May 16, 2024 12:20:51 GMT -5
"When Eamonn Brennan asked “Should Georgetown fans be worried?” the answer is usually a resounding “Yes, we’re always worried,” but with the transfer portal closed, it feels like time may be dwindling for any more good news out of the Thompson Center this spring. As far as we know, the Hoyas have some pretty big gaps in the lineup and their calendar. We’ve frequently seen how a short bench and haphazard scheduling plays out. News of the expected Maryland series being delayed due to alleged scheduling difficulties conjures quotes of past issues where a certain head coach likely felt like his team was just not ready for the challenge. It might actually be scheduling issues causing the delay with Kevin Willard & Co.—fans would welcome any scheduling announcements beyond Notre Dame, Syracuse, and West Virginia that might demonstrate the insurmountable calendar woes—but forgive this humble lunch blog contributor for being a bit skeptical. Ed Cooley proudly promised to John Fanta and the Field of 68 team, at the Final Four, that the Georgetown-Maryland matchup was on track for this season. This leaves fans to surmise that something changed since early April. The biggest change happens to be a roster swap that features only two on-court players from the 2023-24 squad sticking around. While there is plenty of talent coming in with four transfers and four freshman, there are still questions with depth, e.g., in the frontcourt... So, the Maryland reports feel like a disappointing indication of Cooley’s expectations for Georgetown. Even if Maryland postponed the deal because Willard believes Georgetown to be a potential NET-killer, it’s still a concern that Cooley might not think this squad will be ranked as a Quad 2 matchup." www.casualhoya.com/2024/5/16/24157277/links-georgetown-maryland-series-reportedly-pushed-hoyas-transfer-portal-roster-big-east-ed-cooley |
|
DanMcQ
Moderator 
Posts: 33,020
|
Post by DanMcQ on May 16, 2024 13:11:01 GMT -5
|
|
DanMcQ
Moderator
Posts: 33,020
|
Post by DanMcQ on May 18, 2024 13:03:02 GMT -5
|
|
hoyas315
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 3,159
|
Post by hoyas315 on Jun 4, 2024 13:06:41 GMT -5
|
|
hoyas315
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 3,159
|
Post by hoyas315 on Jun 4, 2024 13:35:51 GMT -5
|
|
prhoya
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 23,642
|
Post by prhoya on Jun 4, 2024 13:36:34 GMT -5
Bravo to the Welch family! |
|
EtomicB
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 15,429
|
Post by EtomicB on Jun 4, 2024 13:50:07 GMT -5
Bravo to the Welch family! |
|
Gammo
Century (over 100 posts)
Posts: 186
|
Post by Gammo on Jun 4, 2024 14:36:53 GMT -5
Bravo to the Welch family! Indeed!!! |
|
hoyaboya
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 12,750
|
Post by hoyaboya on Jun 4, 2024 14:39:30 GMT -5
Bravo to the Welch family! Indeed!!! Incredibly generous! |
|
SSHoya
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
"Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown."
Posts: 19,515
|
Post by SSHoya on Jun 4, 2024 14:42:46 GMT -5
Made his real $$ at Bechtel which was headed by George Schultz. Two years ahead of me in SFS. Attended Fletcher with my brother. Small world, indeed. Wonderful contribution! agsiw.org/associates/ambassador-david-c/ |
|
hoyas315
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 3,159
|
Post by hoyas315 on Jun 5, 2024 19:03:50 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jun 5, 2024 19:22:05 GMT -5
Sorry to hear the news about the president. Praying that he will rebound from this.
|
|
|
|
Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jun 5, 2024 19:24:14 GMT -5
About the Welch family: the gentleman is so right! Attitude is the other half of Georgetown University life—the basketball program! We have to get it back!
|
|
hoyaboya
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 12,750
|
Post by hoyaboya on Jun 7, 2024 12:27:42 GMT -5
"While these are incredibly healthy numbers for non-football schools, it once again highlights the uphill climb the Big East has vs the FBS power conferences. Per the Big Ten’s filings, Northwestern alone received more than all 11 Big East teams combined from the conference payouts, at just over $60M vs $58M.... In terms of how the conference makes its millions, it reinforces the point why I’m so attuned to TV ratings all season. The Big East received $50.5M just from its media deal, primarily with FOX Sports, the first time since the reformation the conference broached the $50M mark. That sum made up almost 60% of the total revenue... The other two big chunks listed are the Conference Championships and Corporate Sponsors. It’s actually insane just how important MSG and the Big East Tournament are to the conference. The 2023 FY saw revenues surpass $7M for the first time, and totaled $8.1M, a 16.9% jump over 2022. Going back to the media revenue, the Big East is entering it’s final season under contract with FOX Sports in 2025. Although there were national reports that a deal was imminent, it’s easy to see why there is so much focus on that as well... Conclusion The Big East is doing historically well financially in the areas where it counts. The caveat, as always, is historically well isn’t close to keeping up with the P4. Yes, the P4 has football expenses, which dwarf anything we see in basketball, but the pot football pulls from, with an expanded playoff and new TV deals, continues to grow. Now add in the NCAA Settlement that will diminish what the NCAA pays out over the next decade to the Big East by 18% or so, and it’s clear why so much of the Big East’s future is riding on a potential increase in the upcoming TV contract." painttouches.com/2024/06/07/big-east-2023-tax-filings-show-slight-decline-in-revenue-increase-in-payouts-uconn-marquette-villanova/Kudos to Paint Touches for providing this information. |
|
|
|
Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jun 7, 2024 15:16:19 GMT -5
"While these are incredibly healthy numbers for non-football schools, it once again highlights the uphill climb the Big East has vs the FBS power conferences. Per the Big Ten’s filings, Northwestern alone received more than all 11 Big East teams combined from the conference payouts, at just over $60M vs $58M.... In terms of how the conference makes its millions, it reinforces the point why I’m so attuned to TV ratings all season. The Big East received $50.5M just from its media deal, primarily with FOX Sports, the first time since the reformation the conference broached the $50M mark. That sum made up almost 60% of the total revenue... The other two big chunks listed are the Conference Championships and Corporate Sponsors. It’s actually insane just how important MSG and the Big East Tournament are to the conference. The 2023 FY saw revenues surpass $7M for the first time, and totaled $8.1M, a 16.9% jump over 2022. Going back to the media revenue, the Big East is entering it’s final season under contract with FOX Sports in 2025. Although there were national reports that a deal was imminent, it’s easy to see why there is so much focus on that as well... Conclusion The Big East is doing historically well financially in the areas where it counts. The caveat, as always, is historically well isn’t close to keeping up with the P4. Yes, the P4 has football expenses, which dwarf anything we see in basketball, but the pot football pulls from, with an expanded playoff and new TV deals, continues to grow. Now add in the NCAA Settlement that will diminish what the NCAA pays out over the next decade to the Big East by 18% or so, and it’s clear why so much of the Big East’s future is riding on a potential increase in the upcoming TV contract." painttouches.com/2024/06/07/big-east-2023-tax-filings-show-slight-decline-in-revenue-increase-in-payouts-uconn-marquette-villanova/Kudos to Paint Touches for providing this information. That is an interesting article. The Big East is obviously way behind other major football conferences. That said, one thing that is often ignored is that the major football programs come at significant cost that Big East schools do not have. And many of those big state universities have a ton of sports, too. For example, see this list: sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/financesThis is only football schools, but it shows how massive the expenses are (to be fair, this is easily manipulable), and non-football schools simply will never have that level of expense. In the aggregate, the football schools are still way better off, but it's not as much as it seems at times, because football programs are so expensive to run. |
|
|
|
Post by hoyasaxaphone on Jun 7, 2024 17:02:08 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, if Georgetown is only getting $5 MM in TV revenues and sells only a limited number of tickets at home games, how is it making any money on its basketball program given the cost of a head coach (and assistants), scolarships, htravel and operating expenses and facilities - NIL (bag money) being provided separately to players. I remember seeing numbers somewhere that suggested that Georgetown's budget for basketball was almost $15 million. Does this just get funded by drawing from the general endowment/university revenues and basketball specific donor gifts?
|
|
DFW HOYA
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 5,934
|
Post by DFW HOYA on Jun 7, 2024 17:11:38 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, if Georgetown is only getting $5 MM in TV revenues and sells only a limited number of tickets at home games, how is it making any money on its basketball program given the cost of a head coach (and assistants), scholarships, htravel and operating expenses and facilities - NIL (bag money) being provided separately to players. I remember seeing numbers somewhere that suggested that Georgetown's budget for basketball was almost $15 million. Does this just get funded by drawing from the general endowment/university revenues and basketball specific donor gifts? 1. Georgetown loses money on men's basketball and has for a while. 2. Deficits are funded from the operating budget and not the endowment. 3. NIL is not part of the budget because it is handled from external parties. |
|
