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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 0:33:50 GMT -5
Check the graph on how quickly this has spread around the world, it's crazy how fast the US numbers grew over the last 6 weeks... www.bbc.com/news/world-51235105
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 0:34:11 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Apr 9, 2020 5:22:09 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Apr 9, 2020 18:05:22 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on Apr 9, 2020 20:38:01 GMT -5
Chilling, and terrifying.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2020 22:40:39 GMT -5
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Post by tashoya on Apr 9, 2020 22:44:53 GMT -5
I wanted to say a heartfelt thank you to all of those that sent prayers and good thoughts to my aunt. We found out tonight that she has now tested negative. I sincerely thank each and every one of you that took even a passing second out of your day to wish her well. She's incredibly grateful for all of the prayers and good thoughts and I am as well. I can only hope that I can repay the generosity and that each and every one of you that has a loved one that tests positive has a similar result.
My offer to help for anyone that may need something done in Long Island stands. Message me. I'm happy to do whatever is needed. Groceries, prepared meals, errands, etc. Please feel free to take me up on it and just message me without a second thought.
Thank you, thank you, thank you to all. Best wishes to all for safety and good health.
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Post by SSHoya on Apr 10, 2020 11:49:18 GMT -5
The right wing nutjobs and Fox Propaganda have been after Dr. Fauci. Fox Propaganda and its minions will continue this abhorrent course of conduct. Hume in particular has repeatedly suggested that the number of covid-19 deaths being recorded is inflated because people who have preexisting conditions such as cancer are dying and having their deaths attributed to the virus. Anthony S. Fauci, a leading member of the White House coronavirus task force, was asked about this claim on the “Today” show Thursday morning. “There is absolutely no evidence that that’s the case at all,” Fauci said. “I think it falls under the category of something that’s very unfortunate, these conspiracy theories that we hear about. Every time we have a crisis of any sort, there’s always this popping up of conspiracy theories. I think the deaths we’re seeing are coronavirus deaths, and the other deaths are not being counted as coronavirus deaths.” www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/10/not-that-bad-or-not-that-high-how-advocates-return-normal-misrepresent-coronavirus-deaths/
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 10, 2020 12:34:19 GMT -5
It was inevitable that the same people who brought us the Obama birth certificate conspiracy and Pizzagate were going to become COVID truthers.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2020 13:56:21 GMT -5
Is there a heart anywhere inside this man?
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Apr 10, 2020 15:21:46 GMT -5
I wanted to say a heartfelt thank you to all of those that sent prayers and good thoughts to my aunt. We found out tonight that she has now tested negative. I sincerely thank each and every one of you that took even a passing second out of your day to wish her well. She's incredibly grateful for all of the prayers and good thoughts and I am as well. I can only hope that I can repay the generosity and that each and every one of you that has a loved one that tests positive has a similar result. My offer to help for anyone that may need something done in Long Island stands. Message me. I'm happy to do whatever is needed. Groceries, prepared meals, errands, etc. Please feel free to take me up on it and just message me without a second thought. Thank you, thank you, thank you to all. Best wishes to all for safety and good health. Deo gratias! Keep well on LI; the number of cases there (where I grew up and my sister and my family live) are more than that of the whole of California, so far.
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Post by tashoya on Apr 10, 2020 17:33:42 GMT -5
I wanted to say a heartfelt thank you to all of those that sent prayers and good thoughts to my aunt. We found out tonight that she has now tested negative. I sincerely thank each and every one of you that took even a passing second out of your day to wish her well. She's incredibly grateful for all of the prayers and good thoughts and I am as well. I can only hope that I can repay the generosity and that each and every one of you that has a loved one that tests positive has a similar result. My offer to help for anyone that may need something done in Long Island stands. Message me. I'm happy to do whatever is needed. Groceries, prepared meals, errands, etc. Please feel free to take me up on it and just message me without a second thought. Thank you, thank you, thank you to all. Best wishes to all for safety and good health. Deo gratias! Keep well on LI; the number of cases there (where I grew up and my sister and my family live) are more than that of the whole of California, so far. Thank you, Nevada. Best to you and yours as well. Yes, Nassau isn't in good shape. I'm out in eastern Suffolk but, really, we're just a bit behind them on the timeline. Thankfully, we do have lower population density. However, the rentals out east have skyrocketed and many properties have been rented by already positive people from NYC. There are some horror stories about people that had tested positive traveling out in luxury buses and private planes and not informing anyone. One particular woman called Southampton Hospital from a luxury bus on her way out from Manhattan telling them to "expect her soon" and that she had already tested positive. Selfish and stupid is a helluva combination.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Apr 10, 2020 17:47:49 GMT -5
Same thing happened in Truckee near Lake Tahoe. The people from the Bay Area went to their cottages or resorts, and Truckee is now a hot spot of the Covid-19 virus.
Yes, I should have said Nassau County (21.5K) on the west end of LI has more cases than California (20.5K) and Suffolk 2700 cases behind Nassau.
Stay well and keep safe, tas!
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Post by SSHoya on Apr 10, 2020 18:05:57 GMT -5
Same thing happened in Truckee near Lake Tahoe. The people from the Bay Area went to their cottages or resorts, and Truckee is now a hot spot of the Covid-19 virus. Yes, I should have said Nassau County (21.5K) on the west end of LI has more cases than California (20.5K) and Suffolk 2700 cases behind Nassau. Stay well and keep safe, tas! Same in Bethany Beach, DE. Lots of second homes here. Both my brother, sister, and 90-year old mother have second homes here but are Maryland residents. The governor of Delaware authorized the State Police to set up checkpoints to query whether cars with out-of-state plates were in DE on "essential business." Lots of PA, NJ, VA and NY plates as well. Wishing everyone good health!
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Post by EasyEd on Apr 10, 2020 19:33:24 GMT -5
I wish all a blessed Good Friday.
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Post by hoyarooter on Apr 10, 2020 21:18:53 GMT -5
I wanted to say a heartfelt thank you to all of those that sent prayers and good thoughts to my aunt. We found out tonight that she has now tested negative. I sincerely thank each and every one of you that took even a passing second out of your day to wish her well. She's incredibly grateful for all of the prayers and good thoughts and I am as well. I can only hope that I can repay the generosity and that each and every one of you that has a loved one that tests positive has a similar result. My offer to help for anyone that may need something done in Long Island stands. Message me. I'm happy to do whatever is needed. Groceries, prepared meals, errands, etc. Please feel free to take me up on it and just message me without a second thought. Thank you, thank you, thank you to all. Best wishes to all for safety and good health. tas, I wish you and your family and particularly your aunt a joyous Easter. It won't be a normal one, but hopefully a joyous one nevertheless. We participated in a virtual Seder the other night.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Apr 10, 2020 21:25:25 GMT -5
So, I can explain *some* but not *all* of the logic here. 1. Recreating supply chains on the fly is a highly imperfect option. Sometimes it is unavoidable - disasters sometimes being one of those times, if the existing supply chain has suffered major damage but generally speaking, you want to use the ones that already exist and/or get them back up and running at full capacity ASAP. It's the same basic reason that Amazon uses USPS, rather than recreating their own delivery apparatus. 2. In disasters where the existing supply chain is disrupted or insufficient, FEMA can try to coordinate the creation of interim, emergency supply chains. This has never, ever been done on a nationwide scale before, however. 3. States are, broadly speaking, in a similar situation - they are not generally in the business of recreating/duplicating existing supply chains. It ain't as easy as it might look. 4. There is even a logic behind maintaining a distributed commercial transaction element to all this. The corollary here is famines, where research has shown that parachuting in tons of food from the outside is *not* the best intervention, exactly because it disrupts existing supply chains. It drives food sellers and eventually others out of business, such that it makes recovery that much more difficult. A better approach is to...give the food to the food sellers, so they can distribute it by selling it, keeping the local economy going! If there are people too poor to afford food, that can be addressed through direct/targeted remittances and the like. Here's what I can't explain: Why is regular order fulfillment still being used as something to be maintained? The 'food during a famine' analogy breaks down halfway because human demand for food - that is, average caloric need/intake - has a pretty set range. The demand for ventilators and the like during a pandemic with discrete hotspots is pretty much the opposite of that! What's going to happen is the entities willing to pay the most will win... and that is *not* an accurate indicator of where the need is the greatest. It is just as likely to be an indicator of who has the most cash on hand (even if FEMA ends up reimbursing everyone on the back end eventually anyway under Stafford Act Public Assistance Category B). The official statements that have gone out make it seem like they tried a 'split the baby' approach, directing 50% of distribution to where FEMA directs it, while the remaining 50% goes to fulfilling regular orders. But in this case, that's less of a happy medium and more of an incoherent muddle, especially when it isn't accompanied by transparent and unambiguous explanation of the process. But such an explanation is likely impossible when Trump looks to be inserting himself at random intervals, writing checks with his mouth that civil servants then have to cash because he made a bunch of promise to whomever he was just talking to on the phone.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2020 21:52:37 GMT -5
So, I can explain *some* but not *all* of the logic here. 1. Recreating supply chains on the fly is a highly imperfect option. Sometimes it is unavoidable - disasters sometimes being one of those times, if the existing supply chain has suffered major damage but generally speaking, you want to use the ones that already exist and/or get them back up and running at full capacity ASAP. It's the same basic reason that Amazon uses USPS, rather than recreating their own delivery apparatus. 2. In disasters where the existing supply chain is disrupted or insufficient, FEMA can try to coordinate the creation of interim, emergency supply chains. This has never, ever been done on a nationwide scale before, however. 3. States are, broadly speaking, in a similar situation - they are not generally in the business of recreating/duplicating existing supply chains. It ain't as easy as it might look. 4. There is even a logic behind maintaining a distributed commercial transaction element to all this. The corollary here is famines, where research has shown that parachuting in tons of food from the outside is *not* the best intervention, exactly because it disrupts existing supply chains. It drives food sellers and eventually others out of business, such that it makes recovery that much more difficult. A better approach is to...give the food to the food sellers, so they can distribute it by selling it, keeping the local economy going! If there are people too poor to afford food, that can be addressed through direct/targeted remittances and the like. Here's what I can't explain: Why is regular order fulfillment still being used as something to be maintained? The 'food during a famine' analogy breaks down halfway because human demand for food - that is, average caloric need/intake - has a pretty set range. The demand for ventilators and the like during a pandemic with discrete hotspots is pretty much the opposite of that! What's going to happen is the entities willing to pay the most will win... and that is *not* an accurate indicator of where the need is the greatest. It is just as likely to be an indicator of who has the most cash on hand (even if FEMA ends up reimbursing everyone on the back end eventually anyway under Stafford Act Public Assistance Category B). The official statements that have gone out make it seem like they tried a 'split the baby' approach, directing 50% of distribution to where FEMA directs it, while the remaining 50% goes to fulfilling regular orders. But in this case, that's less of a happy medium and more of an incoherent muddle, especially when it isn't accompanied by transparent and unambiguous explanation of the process. But such an explanation is likely impossible when Trump looks to be inserting himself at random intervals, writing checks with his mouth that civil servants then have to cash because he made a bunch of promise to whomever he was just talking to on the phone. Appreciate the insight Rusky. 👍🏾
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