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Post by the_way on Feb 7, 2018 14:31:36 GMT -5
Copeland is far more productive this season at Nebraska than Pickett has been, so I am not sure what your basis is for that statement. On defense, you're right - Copeland was horrible and I doubt he's improved much, but Pickett isn't a great defender either, so I don't find that to be a key factor there. White would also be a much better option at SF, if we had him. They wouldn't be depth, they'd be starters. He's just butt hurt. There is no way any knowledgeable basketball fan would believe what he is saying. Ike is the second leading scorer and top rebounder in conference on a Nebraska team stunk last year and is in good shape to make the tourney this year. He also has a better DRtg by 6 point per 100 over anyone on this team right now. Cope clearly had a falling out with JTIII and seemingly with most of the team. Ike wasn't the toughest guy but neither is Jessie. Paul would likely be the ball handler and decision maker in all these late game collapses. Both guys would be huge factors for this current team. Still no backcourt though. Which was III's biggest downfall.
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Post by drquigley on Feb 7, 2018 17:03:25 GMT -5
LJ would have been a beast on this team. He would thrive on the up tempo and scored tons of fast break points.
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Post by hoyarooter on Feb 7, 2018 20:49:27 GMT -5
Copeland is far more productive this season at Nebraska than Pickett has been, so I am not sure what your basis is for that statement. On defense, you're right - Copeland was horrible and I doubt he's improved much, but Pickett isn't a great defender either, so I don't find that to be a key factor there. White would also be a much better option at SF, if we had him. They wouldn't be depth, they'd be starters. Both would not start, we would be atrocious defensively. I'll say this again. We are the best rebounding team in the BEast for a reason. Neither is moving the needle, Peak would however. Are we really the best rebounding team in the conference? THEN WHY THE $%&@* CAN'T WE GET A DEFENSIVE REBOUND DOWN THE STRETCH WHEN WE NEED IT? WHY? WHY? WHY?
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Post by Eurostar on Feb 7, 2018 20:52:14 GMT -5
First of all, Pickett was a late signee and wouldn't have signed if we still had White and Copeland.
That being said, this team with White / Copeland / LJ / Waters along with Derrickson / Govan / Mosely / Blair would have been quite good.
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Post by jester on Feb 8, 2018 1:34:21 GMT -5
As good on paper as that UCONN 2014 championship team heading into the season.
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Post by drquigley on Feb 19, 2018 17:10:34 GMT -5
Anyone watch the Illinois-Nebraska game? Copeland a big part of the Nebraska team. Still a liability on defense and a non-factor in the paint. But he seems much more active and involved and loving his new home.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 19, 2018 17:49:28 GMT -5
Anyone watch the Illinois-Nebraska game? Copeland a big part of the Nebraska team. Still a liability on defense and a non-factor in the paint. But he seems much more active and involved and loving his new home. Copeland has a below average wingspan and T. rex arms. His stat line is pretty similar to his sophomore year except he shjooting 3s like he did as a freshmen.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 19, 2018 17:51:25 GMT -5
First of all, Pickett was a late signee and wouldn't have signed if we still had White and Copeland. That being said, this team with White / Copeland / LJ / Waters along with Derrickson / Govan / Mosely / Blair would have been quite good. Copeland and white left cause of III. If III were still here we would have Waters but no Pickett.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Feb 19, 2018 17:54:34 GMT -5
First of all, Pickett was a late signee and wouldn't have signed if we still had White and Copeland. That being said, this team with White / Copeland / LJ / Waters along with Derrickson / Govan / Mosely / Blair would have been quite good. Copeland and white left cause of III. If III were still here we would have Waters but no Pickett. Except that Waters left before III was let go, so the Hoyas would likely not have either Waters or Pickett.
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 19, 2018 17:59:02 GMT -5
Anyone watch the Illinois-Nebraska game? Copeland a big part of the Nebraska team. Still a liability on defense and a non-factor in the paint. But he seems much more active and involved and loving his new home. Copeland has a below average wingspan and T. rex arms. His stat line is pretty similar to his sophomore year except he shjooting 3s like he did as a freshmen. But that's a huge difference, folks wouldn't have hated on Copeland if he shot over 37% from 3..
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 19, 2018 18:27:15 GMT -5
Copeland and white left cause of III. If III were still here we would have Waters but no Pickett. Except that Waters left before III was let go, so the Hoyas would likely not have either Waters or Pickett. Waters left before III left because he read the tree leaves and saw IIIs lame duck status. In a scenario where The university stood by III Waters would have stayed.
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Post by Filo on Feb 19, 2018 18:33:48 GMT -5
JT3's ultimate downfall was not offering Josh Hart a scholarship when he was begging for one. A kid like that would have made a big impact on our team and he would have paired up with DSR and LJP nicely. He's starting for the Lakers now and playing well. In the end, the JT3 era had to run its course, but I have to think he would still have a job had he offered the kid a scholarship. Didn't Maryland's Anthony Cowan grow up a Georgetown fan as well? Read an article where it said we offered him, but his dad said we didn't recruit him hard enough? Pretty sure he was a Terp all the time. Think any interest he might have shown for GU was window dressing...
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 19, 2018 18:39:22 GMT -5
Didn't Maryland's Anthony Cowan grow up a Georgetown fan as well? Read an article where it said we offered him, but his dad said we didn't recruit him hard enough? Pretty sure he was a Terp all the time. Think any interest he might have shown for GU was window dressing... Correct.. Cowan's father is a grad of Maryland & his grandmother works in their African-American studies department.. I think The-Way was confusing Cowan with Melo Trimble..
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Post by the_way on Feb 19, 2018 21:40:36 GMT -5
Pretty sure he was a Terp all the time. Think any interest he might have shown for GU was window dressing... Correct.. Cowan's father is a grad of Maryland & his grandmother works in their African-American studies department.. I think The-Way was confusing Cowan with Melo Trimble.. Nah, I'm talking about Cowan. He said he grew up a Hoya Fan. He was a ball boy here for three seasons. CowanWhile growing up in the District, Maryland freshman guard Anthony Cowan Jr. built everlasting childhood memories during his three years as a ballboy for Georgetown basketball, but he never got a chance to see the Terrapins and Hoyas meet in a game in the area. CowanHaving grown up a fan of the Hoyas, Cowan’s allegiances began to change during the recruiting process
“I felt like Maryland showed how loyal they were to me. I don’t know if it’s because I’m an in-state kid,” he said. “They made sure they always stayed in contact.”
CowanThe first time Maryland assistant coach Dustin Clark watched Cowan Jr. play at Good Counsel’s gym in December 2012, he noticed his tenacity. He attended many of Cowan’s high school games, and Turgeon promised he wouldn’t recruit another small, gritty guard. Cowan’s childhood favorite Georgetown, meanwhile, offered him, but his dad felt the program didn’t put much effort into recruitment because of his son’s short stature.Since you brought up Trimble, I wasn't even aware that we snubbed him before Maryland offered. TrimbleIt looked like a potential landing spot for Trimble, then a rising junior at Bishop O'Connell (Va.). Another O'Connell guard, Jason Clark, had recently capped a successful career for the Hoyas after turning down Maryland, so there was a connection to his high school program. Some close to Trimble believed their Princeton-style offense might suit his game best.
But there proved to be a catch.
"I didn't get an offer," Trimble recalled Monday as the third-ranked Terps prepared for their heavily-hyped meeting with Georgetown. "I kind of just lost interest and of course Maryland called me soon after."
The Hoyas were more focused on his then-D.C. Assault teammate Roddy Peters, another local point guard who eventually chose Maryland. As for Trimble, Maryland coach Mark Turgeon offered him few months later and he accepted in December of his junior year.
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 19, 2018 21:47:54 GMT -5
Correct.. Cowan's father is a grad of Maryland & his grandmother works in their African-American studies department.. I think The-Way was confusing Cowan with Melo Trimble.. Nah, I'm talking about Cowan. He said he grew up a Hoya Fan. He was a ball boy here for three seasons. CowanWhile growing up in the District, Maryland freshman guard Anthony Cowan Jr. built everlasting childhood memories during his three years as a ballboy for Georgetown basketball, but he never got a chance to see the Terrapins and Hoyas meet in a game in the area. CowanHaving grown up a fan of the Hoyas, Cowan’s allegiances began to change during the recruiting process
“I felt like Maryland showed how loyal they were to me. I don’t know if it’s because I’m an in-state kid,” he said. “They made sure they always stayed in contact.”
CowanThe first time Maryland assistant coach Dustin Clark watched Cowan Jr. play at Good Counsel’s gym in December 2012, he noticed his tenacity. He attended many of Cowan’s high school games, and Turgeon promised he wouldn’t recruit another small, gritty guard. Cowan’s childhood favorite Georgetown, meanwhile, offered him, but his dad felt the program didn’t put much effort into recruitment because of his son’s short stature.I stand corrected.. Always thought Cowan was a lock for Maryland, surprised to hear Broadus dropped the ball...
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Post by tashoya on Feb 19, 2018 22:32:29 GMT -5
Copeland and white left cause of III. If III were still here we would have Waters but no Pickett. Except that Waters left before III was let go, so the Hoyas would likely not have either Waters or Pickett. I'm happy to hear that Isaac is rounding back into his younger form. That said, I'd take Pickett over him every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 20, 2018 5:13:25 GMT -5
Except that Waters left before III was let go, so the Hoyas would likely not have either Waters or Pickett. I'm happy to hear that Isaac is rounding back into his younger form. That said, I'd take Pickett over him every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Ok, but would you take Kaleb or Walker over Copeland?
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Post by SaxaCD on Feb 20, 2018 5:51:53 GMT -5
I'm happy to hear that Isaac is rounding back into his younger form. That said, I'd take Pickett over him every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Ok, but would you take Kaleb or Walker over Copeland? DTM* *hat tip Elvado.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 11:16:49 GMT -5
I'm happy to hear that Isaac is rounding back into his younger form. That said, I'd take Pickett over him every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Ok, but would you take Kaleb or Walker over Copeland? But Copeland plays the 4 for Nebraska. On top of having to wait until he's a Senior to put up 13 and 6 our 4 man is pretty good.. I wish him the best. I like to see him do well, but I don't miss him.
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Post by BigmanU on Feb 20, 2018 11:33:25 GMT -5
This is at least Copeland's 4th year removed from high school. Did he also have a post grad year? He should be Dominating! I'll take the Pickett-Derrickson combo any day of the week. Copeland is an old 22 (going on 23) year old Junior, but still is only a solid starter on an average bubble team. Nothing more, nothing less.
Pickett's ceiling is off the charts.
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