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Post by skunk on Apr 3, 2020 6:27:22 GMT -5
As I posted on the main section, this is a solid get and seems to check the box for what we were looking for going into the offseason - experience and stability at the PG position. Not going to the move the needle a ton, but certainly helps balance out the roster, and if complimented with a few more pieces (shooters please), the roster will be a bit more competitive. At this point, we really aren't going to land the Tapes or Aikens of the world, so I'm reasonably happy to land someone who came from a major conference and has the size and athleticism needed to compete in the Big East. On the note of shooting, of all the guys we are bringing in (J. Harris, Beard, Sibley, Clark, D. Harris) is Dante Harris the only one we'd consider an above average shooter? Really worried if we go into another season without another reasonably good shooter. If Blair is our best shooter (and let's admit it he's average at best, really a volume shooter who can get hot, but also can get very cold), we become very easy to defend. I personally like Clark’s stroke and think he could be a good shooter. Haven’t seen enough of beards film
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Apr 3, 2020 6:33:08 GMT -5
On the note of shooting, of all the guys we are bringing in (J. Harris, Beard, Sibley, Clark, D. Harris) is Dante Harris the only one we'd consider an above average shooter? Really worried if we go into another season without another reasonably good shooter. If Blair is our best shooter (and let's admit it he's average at best, really a volume shooter who can get hot, but also can get very cold), we become very easy to defend. It's even worse if you go back to last year. Of our last 11 recruits, the only one who could really list 3 point shooting as a strength is Harris. Before someone tries to claim Alexander, he shot 34.9% from 3 in JuCo. Guys like Beard, Sibley, and Clark don't sound totally hopeless as shooters, but the scouting reports seem to indicate it's an area of development for all of them.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Apr 3, 2020 7:00:41 GMT -5
It seems that the better teams in the league have multiple shooters, which makes them difficult to defend.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Apr 3, 2020 7:06:38 GMT -5
It seems that the better teams in the league have multiple shooters, which makes them difficult to defend. Agreed that's what makes Walton or Murray or someone with that skill set a must for this team...
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Apr 3, 2020 7:41:03 GMT -5
Harris doesn't blow you away with his stat line, but he is exactly the veteran presence at point guard we needed. He has played in 100 college basketball games and started most of them. In his real season as the starting PG last year, he averaged 6 assists per game and scored enough for what we need. If he can come in here, start day 1 and give us 8 points and 6 assists while defending the team's top guard, this is a huge coup. Grad transfers are terrific because they don't even hurt you with future recruiting. A backcourt rotation of Harris - Blair - McClung - Beard - Harris (Dante) is very solid.
Welcome to the hilltop Jalen!
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Post by SirSaxa on Apr 3, 2020 8:15:55 GMT -5
arkansasrazorbacks.com/roster/jalen-harris/Excerpt2019-20 (Jr. at Arkansas): Did not commit a turnover in the first four SEC games (81:26 minutes with 12 assists: including 5 vs Texas A&M and 5 vs Vanderbilt … Overall, did not commit a turnover in six SEC games and logged 430 minutes in SEC play with just 21 turnovers in 18 games So, playing 24 mpg during SEC Conference play, he avearged only 1.2 TO/game He started 5 games, but he averaged 24 minutes/game.... I'd love to see numbers that reflect how much he played in the last 5-10 minutes of games. OK, so maybe not the splashy numbers and rep of some of the better know Grad Transfers or regular transfers. But he has a lot of experience and undoubtedly will play a key role on a young team, without crowding their future or that of any 2021 recruits who may be looking at our Hoyas. Jury is def out, but I salute Patrick and staff - and Jalen.
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Post by hoyas315 on Apr 3, 2020 8:38:17 GMT -5
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Post by prhoya on Apr 3, 2020 9:02:01 GMT -5
With the roster having: 3 sophomore centers 1 6'8" PF frosh (Sibley) 1 6'8" PF/SF senior (Pickett) 1 6'4"-6'7" (depending on what you read) SF frosh (Clark) 1 6'4" SG (Blair) 4 6'2" or less PGs (includes Mac with NBA feedback), or 3 seniors 1 junior (if Mac returns) 3 sophomores 4 freshmen Does the coaching staff have the luxury of having a sit-out transfer or do we need more immediately available talent (i.e., shooters, grad PF/big, etc...)?
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Post by hoyas315 on Apr 3, 2020 9:05:24 GMT -5
3. ROBERT ALLEN
Coming out of high school, Robert Allen had a handful of low-major programs for options where he could play. That will not be the case this time around. A sophomore transfer that will sit out next season before resuming his eligibility in the fall of 2021, the Samford star is a long and active power forward that can run the floor, finish in the lane and alter shots.
He has started every game except one throughout his career. Last season, he averaged 14.1 points, seven rebounds and also contributed with blocks, assists and steals. Allen is hoping to narrow his school list later this month before committing. The suitor list includes College of Charleston, FIU, Georgetown, Mississippi State, Murray State, Ole Miss, St. Louis, USF and VCU.
5. WARITH ALATISHE
One of the more underrated forward prospects in the transfer portal, Warith Alatishe entered the Nicholls State program as a relative unknown, but leaves with a bevy of high-majors to choose from. Albeit in between positions in the frontcourt, the sophomore exploded this past season, making giant leaps in practically every statistical category.
After seeing action in just 13 games as a freshman and averaging just over a point per game, Alatishe started in 29 of the 31 games that he competed in as a sophomore. He posted strong averages of 10.9 points and 8.3 rebounds while shooting 57% from the floor. His plan is to keep his recruitment open for the next few weeks. The list of schools involved includes Creighton, Georgetown, Georgia, Oregon State, Texas A&M and Wichita State.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 3, 2020 9:51:21 GMT -5
With the roster having: 3 sophomore centers 1 6'8" PF frosh (Sibley) 1 6'8" PF/SF senior (Pickett) 1 6'4"-6'7" (depending on what you read) SF frosh (Clark) 1 6'4" SG (Blair) 4 6'2" or less PGs (includes Mac with NBA feedback), or 3 seniors 1 junior (if Mac returns) 3 sophomores 4 freshmen Does the coaching staff have the luxury of having a sit-out transfer or do we need more immediately available talent (i.e., shooters, grad PF/big, etc...)? While we need contributors next year, we won't play 13 guys, so creating a little more balance between classes would not bother me.
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Apr 3, 2020 9:59:31 GMT -5
With the roster having: 3 sophomore centers 1 6'8" PF frosh (Sibley) 1 6'8" PF/SF senior (Pickett) 1 6'4"-6'7" (depending on what you read) SF frosh (Clark) 1 6'4" SG (Blair) 4 6'2" or less PGs (includes Mac with NBA feedback), or 3 seniors 1 junior (if Mac returns) 3 sophomores 4 freshmen Does the coaching staff have the luxury of having a sit-out transfer or do we need more immediately available talent (i.e., shooters, grad PF/big, etc...)? I have very high hopes for the 2020 class as well as the progression of Wahab/Ighoefe so to be able to add a guy like Peterson or any of the other big time sit-one guys to the 2021 class would be terrific. Take strides this year, be on the bubble with all these young guys then add Collins - Mutombo - Peterson in 2021. That would be a recipe for a Big East contender.
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hoyas315
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Post by hoyas315 on Apr 3, 2020 10:12:35 GMT -5
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Post by prhoya on Apr 3, 2020 10:16:36 GMT -5
With the roster having: 3 sophomore centers 1 6'8" PF frosh (Sibley) 1 6'8" PF/SF senior (Pickett) 1 6'4"-6'7" (depending on what you read) SF frosh (Clark) 1 6'4" SG (Blair) 4 6'2" or less PGs (includes Mac with NBA feedback), or 3 seniors 1 junior (if Mac returns) 3 sophomores 4 freshmen Does the coaching staff have the luxury of having a sit-out transfer or do we need more immediately available talent (i.e., shooters, grad PF/big, etc...)? While we need contributors next year, we won't play 13 guys, so creating a little more balance between classes would not bother me. The sit-out Peterson would be part of the rising sophomore class above (would play again as a junior), so class balance would not come into play there. Adding grads or a JuCo would. While I know we will not play 13 guys, the more the merrier gives us a chance to be competitive immediately, which is desperately needed around here, to increase the level of interest around the program, win recruiting battles, etc... That said, what ewingerabegins proposes is very enticing.
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Post by RBHoya on Apr 3, 2020 10:34:44 GMT -5
With the roster having: 3 sophomore centers 1 6'8" PF frosh (Sibley) 1 6'8" PF/SF senior (Pickett) 1 6'4"-6'7" (depending on what you read) SF frosh (Clark) 1 6'4" SG (Blair) 4 6'2" or less PGs (includes Mac with NBA feedback), or 3 seniors 1 junior (if Mac returns) 3 sophomores 4 freshmen Does the coaching staff have the luxury of having a sit-out transfer or do we need more immediately available talent (i.e., shooters, grad PF/big, etc...)? I think immediately available talent is great if it can actually help, but the list of viable options that we have a real shot at isn't all that long. As of right now I think the depth chart by natural position is something like: PG: Harris, Beard, Harris SG: McClung, Blair SF: Clark PF: Pickett, Sibley C: Wahab, Ighoefe, Wilson On depth it looks like we could use another forward for next year. As of right now I think we'd probably be playing a lot of 3 guard lineups with Blair and McClung on the floor at the same time, along with lineups where Pickett and Sibley are out there at the same time. But if there's a forward who can contribute next year it'd be great. Unfortunately we haven't had great luck with high level grad transfer PFs (Tape, Bruner, Marfo, etc.). There's still plenty of time. Someone like the kid from WMU (Johnson) might be a nice addition. But I don't think it's an absolute must should we be unable to make a connection with someone who we really feel can contribute. I'd rather take a quality sit-out transfer who will help us a lot in 2 years and roll with our current forwards than to add a grad transfer who is just a body. But it really all depends on how good the individual players are. Most seasons there are still some sleepers out there among the high school senior class at this time of year--for example we landed Vee Sanford and Jerelle Benimon in April of their senior years. But with high school basketball shutting down early and no ability to have kids on campus for visits or take any visits to them, it sort of feels like the only commitments that are likely would be from guys we've already been working on recruiting for a while. I'd love to land a kid like Johnson who could help right away. Start a lineup of J. Harris, McClung, Pickett, Johnson (or similar) and Wahab. Blair plays heavy minutes as a 6th man. Then whichever of the freshmen are most ready to help and whomever wins the battle between Ighoefe and Wilson rounds out the rotation. Not a bad lineup, experienced and with some growth and improvement from our current guys could be competitive enough to keep it interesting. But if we can't get a valuable grad transfer forward I'd rather take a quality sit-out transfer. Overall though I think our top priority right now should be Brandon Murray. With Blair going into his senior year and McClung eying the draft (even in 2021 if not this year), I think we need a shooting guard who can actually put some points on the board. Many of the guys we've added in the last couple classes profile as nice complimentary pieces, but we still need a go-to scorer. If we can add him to the current group I'll be happy, regardless of whether the third open scholarship goes to a grad transfer or a sit-out transfer.
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Post by HoyaDr on Apr 3, 2020 10:43:04 GMT -5
Definitely need another experienced forward. We were bullied way too much this past season when we put out a 3 guard lineup, especially in BE games. We need the bodies to be able to adjust our gameplan mid-game.
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Post by hoyaboya on Apr 3, 2020 11:02:49 GMT -5
Trey Murphy placed his name into the transfer portal last weekend and has seen his recruitment soar. In high school, the unknown 6-foot-5 wing picked Rice over Army, Furman, Navy and Rider. Now, the 6-foot-8 versatile wing/forward is hearing from practically every program in America, thanks to his shooting prowess and his size along the perimeter. After averaging 13.7 points, 5.5 rebounds and shooting 36.8% from three as a sophomore, Murphy’s next step is to cut his school list down before deciding. Slated to sit out next season with two years to play thereafter, Murphy is currently being pursued by Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, Arizona State, Auburn, Cincinnati, Creighton, DePaul, Iowa State, Memphis, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Pitt, Stanford, Texas, UConn, Villanova, Wichita State and Xavier. basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/evans-seven-top-frontcourt-players-in-the-transfer-portal
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Post by AshantiCooksBurner on Apr 3, 2020 11:14:34 GMT -5
Definitely need another experienced forward. We were bullied way too much this past season when we put out a 3 guard lineup, especially in BE games. We need the bodies to be able to adjust our gameplan mid-game. I think Ricky Lindo will fill this role nicely.
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Post by HoyaRejuveNation85 on Apr 3, 2020 11:21:31 GMT -5
He looks great in the transition game. He will be very interesting to pair with Mac and Juggy. I think this is a very good point. Even if Harris proves not to be a shooter, it's not like that's his whole value. He is strong with the ball, good in the PnR, a solid defender, and someone who was a team captain (which speaks to his leadership). His best value may be in the minutes he keeps Juggy off the ball and Mac too. Let them get more space to work. THEIR improvement from the outside may be part of the answer to the improved shooting we need for next season. It also looks like Dante Harris can shoot from outside. If so, he might provide a spark there too. Further, one of the nice developments at the end of last season was, which another poster mentioned, Jamorko's ability to get his shot off while posting up a defender. He's often too timid at the rim, but this was a new dimension to his game. He's already got the spot-up 3 pointer. I think a player like Jalen Harris can help him find his best shot. With confidence, Jamorko might help the team exceed expectations too.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 3, 2020 11:33:18 GMT -5
While we need contributors next year, we won't play 13 guys, so creating a little more balance between classes would not bother me. The sit-out Peterson would be part of the rising sophomore class above (would play again as a junior), so class balance would not come into play there. Adding grads or a JuCo would. While I know we will not play 13 guys, the more the merrier gives us a chance to be competitive immediately, which is desperately needed around here, to increase the level of interest around the program, win recruiting battles, etc... That said, what ewingerabegins proposes is very enticing. I guess my thought was better Peterson than 2 more freshmen which would give us 6 guys in one class. But I agree that ewingerabegins scenario sounds good to me too.
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Post by hoyainla on Apr 3, 2020 11:52:38 GMT -5
As I posted on the main section, this is a solid get and seems to check the box for what we were looking for going into the offseason - experience and stability at the PG position. Not going to the move the needle a ton, but certainly helps balance out the roster, and if complimented with a few more pieces (shooters please), the roster will be a bit more competitive. At this point, we really aren't going to land the Tapes or Aikens of the world, so I'm reasonably happy to land someone who came from a major conference and has the size and athleticism needed to compete in the Big East. Since this board can handle realism way better than the main board I’ll give my opinion here. I think you nailed it that this doesn’t move the needle a ton. Probably brings up the floor a little bit but the floor is still very low. If we are going to be good next year than Harris will be playing a minimum backup role to freshman breakout star Tyler Beard. Not saying that will happen but that’s what would need to happen. You don’t dramatically improve taking backup PG from middling non tournament SEC teams. I think Arkansas is headed up and Harris knew or was told his role would be even less this year so he got out. He’s not a good shooter as we can all see. His defensive numbers are not good. He needs to play in a structure which I’m not sure we have really shown. He loves to go fast which is what I am assuming Pat likes. He does seem to be a good kid that will provide leadership. That may end up being his best contribution and that could prove to be very valuable. If the goal was to get a sold kid with experience then Pat nailed it. I just think a lot of the optimism here is like whenever a new player commits. It’s based in hope and not reality.
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