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Post by dense on Jun 16, 2020 20:15:58 GMT -5
Would have to be Berger, most likely.
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Post by TC on Jun 16, 2020 20:56:33 GMT -5
Someone would have to go. Redshirts still count as scholarships. Or one of the incoming freshmen is a preferred walk on. All of these kids had offers elsewhere, I would bet anything that none of the players who've announced for us are walkons. You don't turn down a scholarship at Penn to walkon at Georgetown.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jun 16, 2020 21:10:04 GMT -5
Or one of the incoming freshmen is a preferred walk on. All of these kids had offers elsewhere, I would bet anything that none of the players who've announced for us are walkons. You don't turn down a scholarship at Penn to walkon at Georgetown. I’m just throwing out another possibility, since others jumped to transfer as the only way another scholarship opens up. But you’re the one making assumptions (and betting anything) about who could be a preferred walk on. Walk-one play at Georgetown! Be ready Collin.
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Post by dense on Jun 16, 2020 21:20:34 GMT -5
Or one of the incoming freshmen is a preferred walk on. All of these kids had offers elsewhere, I would bet anything that none of the players who've announced for us are walkons. You don't turn down a scholarship at Penn to walkon at Georgetown. Ivy doesn't give athletic scholarships so thats not a factor. His dad was paying for him some money to go to Penn. Players play on need based aid which when you sold a company for portion of 220 million. You probably were paying full freight.
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Post by s4hoyas on Jun 16, 2020 22:12:32 GMT -5
I find this idle speculation about named individuals who might be transfers/walkons, etc to be uncalled for, and frankly distasteful...how do you think it makes a kid or his family feel, especially if they fully expect to be on scholarship...? Not to mention that the chances that Nembhard coming here are slim and none anyway...just my opinion...
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Post by dense on Jun 16, 2020 22:23:57 GMT -5
I find this idle speculation about named individuals who might be transfers/walkons, etc to be uncalled for, and frankly distasteful...how do you think it makes a kid or his family feel, especially if they fully expect to be on scholarship...? Not to mention that the chances that Nembhard coming here are slim and none anyway...just my opinion... Uncalled for maybe, distasteful..don't see that. Look something is going on internally, people can count. Also if someone is on scholarship they are on at this point. People aren't getting a schollie pulled in June so your 2nd part makes no sense. It isn't just Nembhard, Sibande also hasn't made a decision. I think someone is probably in a holding pattern for the schollie until things shake out which means someone doesn't technically have one yet.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jun 16, 2020 22:42:09 GMT -5
I find this idle speculation about named individuals who might be transfers/walkons, etc to be uncalled for, and frankly distasteful...how do you think it makes a kid or his family feel, especially if they fully expect to be on scholarship...? Not to mention that the chances that Nembhard coming here are slim and none anyway...just my opinion... I agree about transfer speculation, which is why I tried to offer a different explanation (and why I tried to shoot down transfer speculation in another thread). However, nothing we say here will change whether a player is on scholarship or is a walk on. And I believe players can’t be switched from scholarship to walk on once they have signed/enrolled (but if I’m wrong on that I apologize). If someone was recruited as a preferred walk on, then they aren’t expecting a scholarship. In the end, the issue is that Georgetown stopped announcing players that sign after Fall 2018 (Wilson/Ighoefe were the last announced signings). If the University simply made those announcements, the fans wouldn’t have to speculate about the roster numbers.
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Post by s4hoyas on Jun 16, 2020 23:44:48 GMT -5
"Something is going on internally, people can count"...that's based on an assumption on your part that just because someone has us on a list of 5 or 6, it indicates that he is going to commit to us, and that therefore someone has to transfer or be a preferred walkon which leads to speculation of individual players...how many times have you seen G'town on a list like this where we were not really being considered or considered to be a serious contender, but rather as some kind of token of respect? Both Nembhard and Sibande are very good players, but I don't think either one is coming here at this point, and if that turns out to be the case, I just don't want to preempt the beginning of some positive chemistry among those already on board...I'm happy with who we have, and if that changes I'll deal with it when it happens...
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jun 17, 2020 0:01:05 GMT -5
"Something is going on internally, people can count"...that's based on an assumption on your part that just because someone has us on a list of 5 or 6, it indicates that he is going to commit to us, and that therefore someone has to transfer or be a preferred walkon which leads to speculation of individual players...how many times have you seen G'town on a list like this where we were not really being considered or considered to be a serious contender, but rather as some kind of token of respect? Both Nembhard and Sibande are very good players, but I don't think either one is coming here at this point, and if that turns out to be the case, I just don't want to preempt the beginning of some positive chemistry among those already on board...I'm happy with who we have, and if that changes I'll deal with it when it happens... A lot of the token of respect placement on lists are the result of a long recruitment. These are transfers that have been recruited for a few weeks. Also, with so many good schools on that list, I have no idea what benefit Nebhard would be getting by listing Georgetown if they don’t have room for him.
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Post by TC on Jun 17, 2020 0:12:27 GMT -5
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Post by dense on Jun 17, 2020 0:13:29 GMT -5
"Something is going on internally, people can count"...that's based on an assumption on your part that just because someone has us on a list of 5 or 6, it indicates that he is going to commit to us, and that therefore someone has to transfer or be a preferred walkon which leads to speculation of individual players...how many times have you seen G'town on a list like this where we were not really being considered or considered to be a serious contender, but rather as some kind of token of respect? Both Nembhard and Sibande are very good players, but I don't think either one is coming here at this point, and if that turns out to be the case, I just don't want to preempt the beginning of some positive chemistry among those already on board...I'm happy with who we have, and if that changes I'll deal with it when it happens... A lot of the token of respect placement on lists are the result of a long recruitment. These are transfers that have been recruited for a few weeks. Also, with so many good schools on that list, I have no idea what benefit Nebhard would be getting by listing Georgetown if they don’t have room for him. Exactly, why would he list a school that hasn't reached out in this situation, seeing the other schools involved?
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jun 17, 2020 2:57:07 GMT -5
I agree with you, which is why I was the one that originally linked that article and provided that quote on the day that Holloway committed. But that was before the blueandgray post which makes it less than certain in my mind. Especially since the article quote about signing is written by the author and it’s not a direct quote from Holloway.
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Post by AltoSaxa on Jun 17, 2020 5:00:29 GMT -5
I find this idle speculation about named individuals who might be transfers/walkons, etc to be uncalled for, and frankly distasteful...how do you think it makes a kid or his family feel, especially if they fully expect to be on scholarship...? Not to mention that the chances that Nembhard coming here are slim and none anyway...just my opinion... Perhaps the “kid or his family” are Raising the same question - contemplating the same issue themselves. No different than the thousands of applicants who apply every year wondering what’s needed to gain admission. Let me take that back - there is one major difference - these kids get a free ride
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Post by bostonfan on Jun 17, 2020 6:33:02 GMT -5
Made the final 6 for Nembhard. This one makes no sense to me at this point. The Hoyas have allocated all of their scholarships for this upcoming season so I can't see how they fit him on the roster. Even if there is something going on behind the scenes where someone might be leaving for some reason, why would a highly recruited kid like Nembhard even bother listing a school as a finalist if that school does not have room for him at this point. Maybe I am just missing something here. Also, wouldn't most schools have used all of their scholarships for the upcoming year at this point? Do many schools leave open scholarships at a late date like this just in case a player like this becomes available?
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jun 17, 2020 6:52:08 GMT -5
Remember when Drummond voluntarily (well at least that was the story) gave up his scholarship and played as a walk-on so UConn could add another player? These things do happen. Maybe one of our guys offered to do that. We have no idea. The one thing of which I am pretty certain is that we would let a recruit know if we had no room left for him.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2020 7:10:16 GMT -5
Remember when Drummond voluntarily (well at least that was the story) gave up his scholarship and played as a walk-on so UConn could add another player? These things do happen. Maybe one of our guys offered to do that. We have no idea. The one thing of which I am pretty certain is that we would let a recruit know if we had no room left for him. I'm pretty sure Drummond was the beneficiary there. Think it was Michael Bradley who went off scholarship so AD could join. But the point is still the same - it seems to be doable. As for our specific case, arguing about speculation seems a ridiculous idea. Let's just see what happens...? [that's not a direct reply to you, FF]
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Post by rockhoya on Jun 17, 2020 8:30:48 GMT -5
We continue to have one of the most sports-illiterate fan bases in all of America.
Why, among other things, one of our main public facing Hoya accounts would go out of their way to announce to the world (and a recruit/their parents) that GU doesn’t have enough scholarships for them, especially when that said person tweeting clearly has no idea how the actually scholarship situation/conversation is going, is beyond me. It’s so baffling the self-inflicted harm some of us do to this program as “fans“. You think every time a 5 star wants to sign with Kentucky their twitter accounts start posting “hold up, we already have four 5 stars coming in, how would there be room for you??”. Literally no, because it’s the staffs job to worry about scholarships and who they want on their team.
To the previous poster who said, “well if the staff would announce to us exactly what’s going on, we wouldn’t have to speculate”. Literally no with your entitlement Karen....the whole world does not revolve around us fans just because we follow the program. I believe the poster also said something along the lines of “nothing we say here on this board has any effect on the events of real life”.....umm even besides all the times it’s pointed out on this board that some member accounts belong to recruits and their family members, we should be one of the first fan bases in the country to understand that what is said amongst the base behind and in front of close doors can really turn things south in a minute. Did you miss that our starting PG quit on the team 7 games into last season in part because he didn’t feel appreciated based on how he and his family perceived the fan bases’ attitude towards them? Or do you just not buy that?
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Post by rockhoya on Jun 17, 2020 8:31:41 GMT -5
I find this idle speculation about named individuals who might be transfers/walkons, etc to be uncalled for, and frankly distasteful...how do you think it makes a kid or his family feel, especially if they fully expect to be on scholarship...? Not to mention that the chances that Nembhard coming here are slim and none anyway...just my opinion... Perhaps the “kid or his family” are Raising the same question - contemplating the same issue themselves. No different than the thousands of applicants who apply every year wondering what’s needed to gain admission. Let me take that back - there is one major difference - these kids get a free ride Your last two sentences are so stupid I don’t think you understand what you’re talking about.
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Post by AltoSaxa on Jun 17, 2020 8:50:35 GMT -5
Narcissists are so predictable
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jun 17, 2020 9:32:30 GMT -5
Remember when Drummond voluntarily (well at least that was the story) gave up his scholarship and played as a walk-on so UConn could add another player? These things do happen. Maybe one of our guys offered to do that. We have no idea. The one thing of which I am pretty certain is that we would let a recruit know if we had no room left for him. I'm pretty sure Drummond was the beneficiary there. Think it was Michael Bradley who went off scholarship so AD could join. But the point is still the same - it seems to be doable. As for our specific case, arguing about speculation seems a ridiculous idea. Let's just see what happens...? [that's not a direct reply to you, FF] What a novel concept: wait and see what happens! Won’t happen. Not around here.
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