LCPolo18
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jun 17, 2020 9:35:49 GMT -5
We continue to have one of the most sports-illiterate fan bases in all of America. Why, among other things, one of our main public facing Hoya accounts would go out of their way to announce to the world (and a recruit/their parents) that GU doesn’t have enough scholarships for them, especially when that said person tweeting clearly has no idea how the actually scholarship situation/conversation is going, is beyond me. It’s so baffling the self-inflicted harm some of us do to this program as “fans“. You think every time a 5 star wants to sign with Kentucky their twitter accounts start posting “hold up, we already have four 5 stars coming in, how would there be room for you??”. Literally no, because it’s the staffs job to worry about scholarships and who they want on their team. To the previous poster who said, “well if the staff would announce to us exactly what’s going on, we wouldn’t have to speculate”. Literally no with your entitlement Karen....the whole world does not revolve around us fans just because we follow the program. I believe the poster also said something along the lines of “nothing we say here on this board has any effect on the events of real life”.....umm even besides all the times it’s pointed out on this board that some member accounts belong to recruits and their family members, we should be one of the first fan bases in the country to understand that what is said amongst the base behind and in front of close doors can really turn things south in a minute. Did you miss that our starting PG quit on the team 7 games into last season in part because he didn’t feel appreciated based on how he and his family perceived the fan bases’ attitude towards them? Or do you just not buy that? I’m pretty sure either I didn’t articulate well or you misread my comments. You don’t think the University should celebrate and announce when players sign? Every other school does this and it’s generally seen as positive. That’s what I meant by the first comment you criticized, that the team should announce when players sign. It’s a long frustration of mine and I might not have been clear enough in my comment. But I still can’t believe you called me an entitled Karen for that. As to the second comment, I didn’t mean to imply that nothing we say here matters. I agree that things we say here do matter to public perception. What I was saying is that what we say here does not have an affect on the matter of whether a player is on scholarship or not. Between this and the admin scolding me for trying to stop a poster from speculating about Pickett, maybe I shouldn’t be posting here any more.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Jun 17, 2020 10:19:34 GMT -5
Made the final 6 for Nembhard. This one makes no sense to me at this point. The Hoyas have allocated all of their scholarships for this upcoming season so I can't see how they fit him on the roster. Even if there is something going on behind the scenes where someone might be leaving for some reason, why would a highly recruited kid like Nembhard even bother listing a school as a finalist if that school does not have room for him at this point. Maybe I am just missing something here. Also, wouldn't most schools have used all of their scholarships for the upcoming year at this point? Do many schools leave open scholarships at a late date like this just in case a player like this becomes available? First, this thread (like several others) is becoming unreadable with all the name-calling and personal sniping. Understand some of these heated debates should be taken offline as the admin suggested on another thread, but for the sake of all posters I would like to see some enforcement of the rules moving forward. Back to Nembhard. Step 1 is he has to commit to us on Monday. If he doesn't do that, then there's no bridge to consider crossing. If he does, the staff will figure out how to deal with it appropriately. I don't think they'd necessarily run off another incoming recruit, but for the returning guys (especially those who showed little to no progress the last year) in my mind are fair game. At this point, we are not good enough to say no to talent in exchange for continuity and avoidance of hurt feelings.
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Post by prhoya on Jun 17, 2020 11:01:34 GMT -5
I don't think they'd necessarily run off another incoming recruit, but for the returning guys (especially those who showed little to no progress the last year) in my mind are fair game. At this point, we are not good enough to say no to talent in exchange for continuity and avoidance of hurt feelings. After the Great Exodus and with 8 new players, we only have two players who return whose progress (or not) can be measured: Blair and Pickett. I don’t think we can do without their four-year experience working with the staff and both have showed some progress throughout their careers. The other upperclassmen are new to the team.
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Post by SirSaxa on Jun 17, 2020 11:44:15 GMT -5
Between this and the admin scolding me for trying to stop a poster from speculating about Pickett, maybe I shouldn’t be posting here any more. LC -- I haven't followed this latest series of posts so I can't comment on them. However, I have followed your many valuable posts over quite some time. No matter how well-intentioned and informative one's posts may be - and yours are at the top -- there will always be posters who will take shots. If I may add a word of advice, try not to reply. Just stick to what you have been doing so effectively. I am certain this post reflects the view of the majority here: We appreciate your contributions. You are one of our most valuable members whose posts usually feature facts and information. Many thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2020 12:19:45 GMT -5
I swear I get so depressed when I watch the comments of negativity of these feeds. I have been praying since he arrived back on campus that Patrick would rescue us and bring Georgetown to prominence, as a coach, just like he did when he was a player. I pray the kids he is recruiting do not come on these boards to read the comments of the posters.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jun 17, 2020 12:19:53 GMT -5
Remember when Drummond voluntarily (well at least that was the story) gave up his scholarship and played as a walk-on so UConn could add another player? These things do happen. Maybe one of our guys offered to do that. We have no idea. The one thing of which I am pretty certain is that we would let a recruit know if we had no room left for him. I'm pretty sure Drummond was the beneficiary there. Think it was Michael Bradley who went off scholarship so AD could join. But the point is still the same - it seems to be doable. As for our specific case, arguing about speculation seems a ridiculous idea. Let's just see what happens...? [that's not a direct reply to you, FF] No problem, I knew it wasn't me. With regard to Drummond and Bradley, one of them had to go "off scholarship" and become a walk-on. Apparently Bradley was going to but could not get the necessary loan to pay tuition etc.; Drummond could so he became the walk-on. My other point remains, I believe that we would tell a recruit if we had no scholarships and no walk-on options.
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Post by rockhoya on Jun 17, 2020 12:42:28 GMT -5
Narcissists are so predictable Not that I am, but I’d rather be a narcissist than be wrong and also a narcissist. How about you actually offer accurate takes and take a step out of fantasy land for a second? Maybe stick to what you know? Bring some facts to the discussion? Bigots are too predictable...
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Post by rockhoya on Jun 17, 2020 12:43:28 GMT -5
We continue to have one of the most sports-illiterate fan bases in all of America. Why, among other things, one of our main public facing Hoya accounts would go out of their way to announce to the world (and a recruit/their parents) that GU doesn’t have enough scholarships for them, especially when that said person tweeting clearly has no idea how the actually scholarship situation/conversation is going, is beyond me. It’s so baffling the self-inflicted harm some of us do to this program as “fans“. You think every time a 5 star wants to sign with Kentucky their twitter accounts start posting “hold up, we already have four 5 stars coming in, how would there be room for you??”. Literally no, because it’s the staffs job to worry about scholarships and who they want on their team. To the previous poster who said, “well if the staff would announce to us exactly what’s going on, we wouldn’t have to speculate”. Literally no with your entitlement Karen....the whole world does not revolve around us fans just because we follow the program. I believe the poster also said something along the lines of “nothing we say here on this board has any effect on the events of real life”.....umm even besides all the times it’s pointed out on this board that some member accounts belong to recruits and their family members, we should be one of the first fan bases in the country to understand that what is said amongst the base behind and in front of close doors can really turn things south in a minute. Did you miss that our starting PG quit on the team 7 games into last season in part because he didn’t feel appreciated based on how he and his family perceived the fan bases’ attitude towards them? Or do you just not buy that? I’m pretty sure either I didn’t articulate well or you misread my comments. You don’t think the University should celebrate and announce when players sign? Every other school does this and it’s generally seen as positive. That’s what I meant by the first comment you criticized, that the team should announce when players sign. It’s a long frustration of mine and I might not have been clear enough in my comment. But I still can’t believe you called me an entitled Karen for that. As to the second comment, I didn’t mean to imply that nothing we say here matters. I agree that things we say here do matter to public perception. What I was saying is that what we say here does not have an affect on the matter of whether a player is on scholarship or not. Between this and the admin scolding me for trying to stop a poster from speculating about Pickett, maybe I shouldn’t be posting here any more. Constant clawing back around here...
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Post by rockhoya on Jun 17, 2020 12:46:54 GMT -5
This one makes no sense to me at this point. The Hoyas have allocated all of their scholarships for this upcoming season so I can't see how they fit him on the roster. Even if there is something going on behind the scenes where someone might be leaving for some reason, why would a highly recruited kid like Nembhard even bother listing a school as a finalist if that school does not have room for him at this point. Maybe I am just missing something here. Also, wouldn't most schools have used all of their scholarships for the upcoming year at this point? Do many schools leave open scholarships at a late date like this just in case a player like this becomes available? First, this thread (like several others) is becoming unreadable with all the name-calling and personal sniping. Understand some of these heated debates should be taken offline as the admin suggested on another thread, but for the sake of all posters I would like to see some enforcement of the rules moving forward. Back to Nembhard. Step 1 is he has to commit to us on Monday. If he doesn't do that, then there's no bridge to consider crossing. If he does, the staff will figure out how to deal with it appropriately. I don't think they'd necessarily run off another incoming recruit, but for the returning guys (especially those who showed little to no progress the last year) in my mind are fair game. At this point, we are not good enough to say no to talent in exchange for continuity and avoidance of hurt feelings. I’d rather dead a thread and get it locked up than to keep having a stupid discussion that is baseless and tasteless and does harm to our program and it’s players. The urge to be “right” is not an excuse for impatience, period. Again, it’s nothing personal but our fan base is objectively sports-illiterate. These past few pages are just another example...
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Post by rockhoya on Jun 17, 2020 12:48:33 GMT -5
Between this and the admin scolding me for trying to stop a poster from speculating about Pickett, maybe I shouldn’t be posting here any more. LC -- I haven't followed this latest series of posts so I can't comment on them. However, I have followed your many valuable posts over quite some time. No matter how well-intentioned and informative one's posts may be - and yours are at the top -- there will always be posters who will take shots. If I may add a word of advice, try not to reply. Just stick to what you have been doing so effectively. I am certain this post reflects the view of the majority here: We appreciate your contributions. You are one of our most valuable members whose posts usually feature facts and information. Many thanks. God forbid we’re not part of the majority!! Lol you people around here are funny.
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Post by rockhoya on Jun 17, 2020 12:49:12 GMT -5
I swear I get so depressed when I watch the comments of negativity of these feeds. I have been praying since he arrived back on campus that Patrick would rescue us and bring Georgetown to prominence, as a coach, just like he did when he was a player. I pray the kids he is recruiting do not come on these boards to read the comments of the posters. They absolutely do. I don’t know why it’s even still debatable around here. To think otherwise is incredibly naive.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2020 14:28:20 GMT -5
I swear I get so depressed when I watch the comments of negativity of these feeds. I have been praying since he arrived back on campus that Patrick would rescue us and bring Georgetown to prominence, as a coach, just like he did when he was a player. I pray the kids he is recruiting do not come on these boards to read the comments of the posters. They absolutely do. I don’t know why it’s even still debatable around here. To think otherwise is incredibly naive. Sir, I want to say something else in regards but I am just going to leave it alone.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jun 17, 2020 14:28:51 GMT -5
This one makes no sense to me at this point. The Hoyas have allocated all of their scholarships for this upcoming season so I can't see how they fit him on the roster. Even if there is something going on behind the scenes where someone might be leaving for some reason, why would a highly recruited kid like Nembhard even bother listing a school as a finalist if that school does not have room for him at this point. Maybe I am just missing something here. Also, wouldn't most schools have used all of their scholarships for the upcoming year at this point? Do many schools leave open scholarships at a late date like this just in case a player like this becomes available? First, this thread (like several others) is becoming unreadable with all the name-calling and personal sniping. Understand some of these heated debates should be taken offline as the admin suggested on another thread, but for the sake of all posters I would like to see some enforcement of the rules moving forward. Back to Nembhard. Step 1 is he has to commit to us on Monday. If he doesn't do that, then there's no bridge to consider crossing. If he does, the staff will figure out how to deal with it appropriately. I don't think they'd necessarily run off another incoming recruit, but for the returning guys (especially those who showed little to no progress the last year) in my mind are fair game. At this point, we are not good enough to say no to talent in exchange for continuity and avoidance of hurt feelings. The Coach and the staff know exactly what the situation is. Nobody would be "run off" - in my opinion of course. There is a plan in place if needed.
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Post by mdtd on Jun 17, 2020 14:53:22 GMT -5
Between this and the admin scolding me for trying to stop a poster from speculating about Pickett, maybe I shouldn’t be posting here any more. LC -- I haven't followed this latest series of posts so I can't comment on them. However, I have followed your many valuable posts over quite some time. No matter how well-intentioned and informative one's posts may be - and yours are at the top -- there will always be posters who will take shots. If I may add a word of advice, try not to reply. Just stick to what you have been doing so effectively. I am certain this post reflects the view of the majority here: We appreciate your contributions. You are one of our most valuable members whose posts usually feature facts and information. Many thanks. The google sheet LC has on recruiting is really nice to have and is really valuable. It's an excellent resource and I really have to give him props for keeping that sheet updated as often as he does. His posts on recruiting are always very insightful, and I can say for a fact that he knows much more than me in this department. His posts are very valuable. Nobody should be acting up on him for saying the program needs to be more open with their communications. It makes kids feel more wanted and it's something most other schools do. He's entirely right. Use the fanbase to your advantage, rather than going silent. More open communication is needed. Recruits have cited the social media presence of schools for why they go their, Roach (who's a DMV kid btw) said this as to why (as in it played a role) he went to Duke. The idea that the fans are at fault for the shortcomings of the Hoyas has always been crazy to me.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Jun 17, 2020 15:18:38 GMT -5
I don't think they'd necessarily run off another incoming recruit, but for the returning guys (especially those who showed little to no progress the last year) in my mind are fair game. At this point, we are not good enough to say no to talent in exchange for continuity and avoidance of hurt feelings. After the Great Exodus and with 8 new players, we only have two players who return whose progress (or not) can be measured: Blair and Pickett. I don’t think we can do without their four-year experience working with the staff and both have showed some progress throughout their careers. The other upperclassmen are new to the team. Agree, I am definitely not even remotely insinuating Blair and Pickett would fall into that category. We need them to be here and to improve to be successful next year.
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mdtd
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Post by mdtd on Jun 17, 2020 15:24:03 GMT -5
We continue to have one of the most sports-illiterate fan bases in all of America. You think every time a 5 star wants to sign with Kentucky their twitter accounts start posting “hold up, we already have four 5 stars coming in, how would there be room for you??”. Almost 10,000 followers. This happened before Mac committed (maybe even Kumiga) so yes, these accounts do this.
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LCPolo18
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jun 17, 2020 17:26:00 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jun 17, 2020 18:03:26 GMT -5
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Post by TC on Jun 17, 2020 18:14:41 GMT -5
Crouch now following Yor Anei, a C from Oklahoma State who just entered the portal......
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Post by hoyaboya on Jun 17, 2020 18:52:17 GMT -5
Crouch now following Yor Anei, a C from Oklahoma State who just entered the portal...... Do we really need another center?
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