Transfers

[IDenj]

Apr 21, 2019 0:15:49 GMT -5 blueandgray said:

Allen is a very good facilitator. can score if he needs to but had 7 assts against Duke and can run a team. Tells me that Ewing isn’t entirely comportable with Mac running point when Akinjo gets a breather.

Could it mean coach knows something about a current player that isn’t public knowledge?

[Elvado]

Or he sees a chance to bring in a veteran quality player to help with team that has a chance to make some noise.

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[hoyazeke]

Apr 21, 2019 0:09:44 GMT -5 blueandgray said:

Apr 20, 2019 21:41:39 GMT -5 Bigs"R"Us said:

Agree on Cole not coming. We also had Sloan on campus. Just seems like a lot of activity on the PG spot for next year ahead of Anthony’s announcement just days away.

Unless we were outright told by Anthony that he was going to be a Hoya....you have an obligation to the program to bring in kids who are potential targets. This way you don’t get caught with your pants down should Cole go elsewhere. It’s the responsible thing to do.

Good point B&G. That is one of my few issues with 3. He seemed to put all of his eggs in one or two low probability baskets. Hopefully all this means is Pat doesn't know what Cole's plans are. If we get a commitment before tomorrow then we are out of the running but until then I'm holding to Pat preparing for the wrong answer from Cole.....🤞🏾🙏🏾😇

[madgesiq92]

Apr 21, 2019 0:15:49 GMT -5 blueandgray said:

Allen is a very good facilitator. can score if he needs to but had 7 assts against Duke and can run a team. Tells me that Ewing isn’t entirely comportable with Mac running point when Akinjo gets a breather.

If the idea is that he fills a need and keeps a scholarship open, I Understand, but this would be his 3rd school in 3 years and seems like stopgap recruiting vs program building.

[Bigs"R"Us]

Transfers, JUCOs and fifth years are the reality of rounding out rosters these days. We need to get used to it and take full advantage.

[SirSaxa]

Apr 22, 2019 6:03:09 GMT -5 madgesiq92 said:

If the idea is that he fills a need and keeps a scholarship open, I Understand, but this would be his 3rd school in 3 years and seems like stopgap recruiting vs program building.

Actually, he spent 3 years at UCF, following his freshman year at Drexel.
Pretty easy to see why a young man would take that opportunity for a big step up, and he sat out a year to do so.
GU would be his second team in 4 years (and 3rd in 5 years)

Now that he has completed his college degree, he has one last opportunity to join a high level D1 program and play a key role.
I don't begrudge him that.

As for Coach building our program, seems like a smart idea on Patrick's part to add a key piece - who already has experience and has proven himself on the court.  At this point, GU is not a top destination for the very best recruits. Nonetheless, Coach has managed to identify serious talent and persuade them to sign on. Last year's frosh are the foundation around which he is building the current team. If he does not have all the talented depth he would like, he is going to get it one way or another.

Malinowski played an important role and provided depth this season.
Now, Ewing is adding Alexander who has two years of eligibility remaining.
If Allen chooses to spend his final year of eligibility at GU, and is willing to be a key role player at a rising program in his hometown? Outstanding!

Sure, Coach might prefer getting top flight freshmen recruits every year. But until that starts happening, he has been building a winning roster.
Yurtseven is likely to be a terrific addition to the team... even if only for a year.
Alexander and Allen could be among the top 6 or 7 rotation guys.
Pat is finding ballers wherever and whenever he can. Seems like a really smart strategy to me.

[hoyasaxa2003]

I can't find his exact birth date, but if he was DeMatha 2015, that'd have to mean he was at least 22-23 next year, so a good mature player.

The guy is efficient offensively, shot just over 40% from three, and has decent size (6'3), though a bit thin, for a guard. Especially for a one-year player, I think he'd be a great addition if there's nobody like Anthony who would otherwise take the slot.

[SirSaxa]

Personally? Did not expect Cole Anthony after that interview he gave talking about how other teams have more talent than GU, but he "really really loves Coach Ewing". He expressed so much love for Coach... it was like that "vote of confidence" from management that lets you know the HC or GM is not long for his job.

Meanwhile, the guy i'd really like to see us get a commitment from Is Terrell Allen. Hope he, team and staff enjoyed his visit yesterday. Maybe we'll get word today?

[calhoya]

Cole Anthony is an exceptional talent but I am struggling to see the need for another pure PG. Akinjo is the PG. McClung in many ways is as good as Akinjo, particularly in the lane, and certainly a very capable backup PG. Mosley improved his handle significantly last year. Blair improved some as well, though still a work in progress. One scholarship left and a team that is definitely in need of outside shooting and in my mind a big SG. What am I missing that shows a need for another PG?

[s4hoyas]

I thought I read somewhere that he was visiting from 4/22 to 4/24...can anyone provide info on the games of Allen and Sloan...
both appear to be point/lead guards, with Allen a little taller at 6'3...Sloan appears from what I've read to be a very high assist guy
who can also score as needed (don't know about his 3 pt shooting)...Allen seems to have a relatively mature game...distributor with a pretty good 3 pt game...
for those in the know, who's the better prospect/player and overall fit? I'm still very interested in the 6'5 SG from Italy (Frederico M.) because he can handle the ball and is a prolific 3 pt shooter at 6'5, something I think we need...as far as I know is expected to visit in May...

[wponds]

Apr 23, 2019 8:45:32 GMT -5 SirSaxa said:

Personally? Did not expect Cole Anthony after that interview he gave talking about how other teams have more talent than GU, but he "really really loves Coach Ewing". He expressed so much love for Coach... it was like that "vote of confidence" from management that lets you know the HC or GM is not long for his job.

Meanwhile, the guy i'd really like to see us get a commitment from Is Terrell Allen. Hope he, team and staff enjoyed his visit yesterday. Maybe we'll get word today?

Agreed. Would really like to have Allen. One year commitment, veteran who can handle, pass, and defend (and a decent shooter). Can come of the bench and do the little things for us in the back court

[bostonfan]

Apr 23, 2019 8:58:51 GMT -5 calhoya said:

Cole Anthony is an exceptional talent but I am struggling to see the need for another pure PG. Akinjo is the PG. McClung in many ways is as good as Akinjo, particularly in the lane, and certainly a very capable backup PG. Mosley improved his handle significantly last year. Blair improved some as well, though still a work in progress. One scholarship left and a team that is definitely in need of outside shooting and in my mind a big SG. What am I missing that shows a need for another PG?

I don't think the team needs another pure, pass first, point guard, as much as it needs a capable backcourt player who can handle the ball and make 3's. In a perfect world that player would be 6'4" - 6'6", but not a lot of  quality guys out there that fit that bill that are available. For a few years the team did not have enough players who had a strong enough handle to bring the ball up against pressure and it cost them games, so if the staff feels it needs another strong ball handler to help Akinjo when he needs a break or has foul trouble I am Ok with that as long as  the player can make shots if left open. The team wants to play fast so having more high level ball handlers who are comfortable making good decisions in transition is important.

[jwp91]

I think you take the best player guard/wing you can find knowing that you could use some outside shooting, some back-up PG minutes, some length and some defense.

[Bigs"R"Us]

Allen seems to possess the qualities we are looking for- ability to run an offensive and hit from deep at a respectable clip.

[LCPolo18]

Nice to see that he knows how to play defense with a 7 footer behind him.

[hoyainla]

Apr 23, 2019 8:58:51 GMT -5 calhoya said:

Cole Anthony is an exceptional talent but I am struggling to see the need for another pure PG. Akinjo is the PG. McClung in many ways is as good as Akinjo, particularly in the lane, and certainly a very capable backup PG. Mosley improved his handle significantly last year. Blair improved some as well, though still a work in progress. One scholarship left and a team that is definitely in need of outside shooting and in my mind a big SG. What am I missing that shows a need for another PG?

Agreed but what big SG transfer is going to come here knowing that Pat will likely not give them time over Mac. Nobody is going to want to transfer in to play 10-15 minutes a game. That is likely why they left their previous spot.

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Apr 23, 2019 12:51:32 GMT -5 hoyainla said:

Apr 23, 2019 8:58:51 GMT -5 calhoya said:

Cole Anthony is an exceptional talent but I am struggling to see the need for another pure PG. Akinjo is the PG. McClung in many ways is as good as Akinjo, particularly in the lane, and certainly a very capable backup PG. Mosley improved his handle significantly last year. Blair improved some as well, though still a work in progress. One scholarship left and a team that is definitely in need of outside shooting and in my mind a big SG. What am I missing that shows a need for another PG?

Agreed but what big SG transfer is going to come here knowing that Pat will likely not give them time over Mac. Nobody is going to want to transfer in to play 10-15 minutes a game. That is likely why they left their previous spot.

Galen just showed up to presumably battle for the SF spot, and Jamorko played just a shade less than Mac did overall and in conference -- and has 2 years left.

Why would every transfer now be chicken at the SG spot?

Or is it just that you wanted to write about Mac and his minutes?

[hoyainla]

Apr 23, 2019 13:03:02 GMT -5 @nychoya94 said:

Apr 23, 2019 12:51:32 GMT -5 hoyainla said:

Agreed but what big SG transfer is going to come here knowing that Pat will likely not give them time over Mac. Nobody is going to want to transfer in to play 10-15 minutes a game. That is likely why they left their previous spot.

Galen just showed up to presumably battle for the SF spot, and Jamorko played just a shade less than Mac did overall and in conference -- and has 2 years left.

Why would every transfer now be chicken at the SG spot?

Or is it just that you wanted to write about Mac and his minutes?

Jamorko got benched and afterward played about 20 MPG and isnt the fan favorite that Mac is. We don't really seem to be in on any big immediate SG talent so that should be a hint as well. Galen isn't a big SF talent as well.

Did you just want to call me out because I typed Mac?

[GIGAFAN99]

Apr 23, 2019 13:59:29 GMT -5 hoyainla said:

Apr 23, 2019 13:03:02 GMT -5 @nychoya94 said:

Galen just showed up to presumably battle for the SF spot, and Jamorko played just a shade less than Mac did overall and in conference -- and has 2 years left.

Why would every transfer now be chicken at the SG spot?

Or is it just that you wanted to write about Mac and his minutes?

Jamorko got benched and afterward played about 20 MPG and isnt the fan favorite that Mac is. We don't really seem to be in on any big immediate SG talent so that should be a hint as well. Galen isn't a big SF talent as well.

Did you just want to call me out because I typed Mac?

Ok so who? Who are the available big SG transfers we are scaring away by "giving" the leading freshman scorer in the Big East 26 minutes?

We know low/mid major transfers including grad transfers and top 20 JuCos dont count by your own standards. So who are these big, highly-ranked, high major SGs available that are clearly better than Mac historically? Lets start there before even considering whether they are chicken or not.