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Post by njhoya78 on May 5, 2016 13:37:59 GMT -5
Saw those...was looking for unbiased sources. Any article I can find about LJ Peak's recruitment with mention of a Hoyas assistant talks about Hardy, but I can't find similar articles mentioning Broadus. The way I see it, we just lost our best recruiter (at least from the last 3 years) to Josh Pastner and a second tier ACC program. I hope we replace him with somebody good. Not to sound too snarky, but isn't that akin to being the tallest midget? |
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Post by LCPolo18 on May 5, 2016 13:40:36 GMT -5
Saw those...was looking for unbiased sources. Any article I can find about LJ Peak's recruitment with mention of a Hoyas assistant talks about Hardy, but I can't find similar articles mentioning Broadus. The way I see it, we just lost our best recruiter (at least from the last 3 years) to Josh Pastner and a second tier ACC program. I hope we replace him with somebody good. Honestly I trust sources like yaboynyp and blueandgray (http://hoyatalk2.proboards.com/post/687611) more than a news outlet that covers Georgetown a couple times a year and probably doesn't have any inside sources. Plus, the fact that Georgetown was in on Peak in 2011 two years before Hardy came to Georgetown indicates that he had prior contact and a relationship with another assistant. In the recruiting thread dense also mentioned "Broadus supposedly put mad work in on this one so all props to him." I'm sure the Hardy connection helped, but I don't think that Hardy was necessarily the lead recruiter or the closer in this instance. |
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Post by hoyaboya on May 5, 2016 13:47:48 GMT -5
Saw those...was looking for unbiased sources. Any article I can find about LJ Peak's recruitment with mention of a Hoyas assistant talks about Hardy, but I can't find similar articles mentioning Broadus. The way I see it, we just lost our best recruiter (at least from the last 3 years) to Josh Pastner and a second tier ACC program. I hope we replace him with somebody good. Recruiting hasn't been this team's problem. The Hoyas have had the highest ranked recruits (or at worst second) among all the teams in the New Big East during Hardy's tenure. The problem has been developing/using that talent effectively and Xs/Os, IMO. |
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Post by kchoya on May 5, 2016 13:51:48 GMT -5
Saw those...was looking for unbiased sources. Any article I can find about LJ Peak's recruitment mentions Hardy, but I can't find similar articles mentioning Broadus. The way I see it, we just lost our best recruiter (at least from the last 3 years) to Josh Pastner and a second tier ACC program. I hope we replace him with somebody good. No offense but thats a ludicrous statement... Be quiet. Hoyaboya is trying to see how many asinine posts he can make in one day. He's on a roll. |
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Post by hoyaboya on May 5, 2016 13:58:16 GMT -5
Saw those...was looking for unbiased sources. Any article I can find about LJ Peak's recruitment mentions Hardy, but I can't find similar articles mentioning Broadus. The way I see it, we just lost our best recruiter (at least from the last 3 years) to Josh Pastner and a second tier ACC program. I hope we replace him with somebody good. No offense but thats a ludicrous statement... Which part is ludicrous? If there's evidence that there was another assistant on the staff over the last 3 years that brought in higher rated talent than Hardy, I'd love to see it. |
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on May 5, 2016 13:59:40 GMT -5
JT3 has got to rely on more than Broadus if he hopes to keep asst coaches around for very long.. I would put in a call to Mike Morrell from Texas, who was just taken off the road by Smart.. He knows he area from being at VCU, he's reported to be a good recruiter and I'm sure he's well versed on Smart's pressing style of play.. I'm sure it's a lock now that PE Jr will get a spot, I'm all for it.. I like that idea alot Etomic. He's supposedly responsible for the majority of their class. Taking him off the road was puzzling. As long it wasn't a preventative move by Shaka (violations, personal, etc) you would think he'd be motivated to make a change. This is a good opportunity IMHO, everyone's been clamoring for a culture change, and we knew III's time isn't up here yet, so new blood may go a long way to seeing positive change. Hopefully he makes a home run hire. |
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Post by prhoya on May 5, 2016 14:06:35 GMT -5
Is Esh available? (ducks!)
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Post by TBird41 on May 5, 2016 14:19:42 GMT -5
Also, per one of the comments above, why is Broadus locked in as the highest paid assistant? What other program besides Georgetown would touch him with a 10-foot pole, given his tenure at Binghamton? Do we even know Broadus is "locked in" as the highest paid assistant? And, do the other assistants make significantly less? I really have no idea. The benefit to having Broadus is that he has a history at Georgetown and JT3, he's obviously a very solid recruiter, and there is basically very low flight risk because of the problems he encountered at Binghamton. I don't see why anybody would view any of that as a problem? What world do we live in where college basketball programs would choose not to hire Broadus because of past scandals if they thought he would help them win? |
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Post by MCIGuy on May 5, 2016 14:25:11 GMT -5
Pretty much.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 14:45:14 GMT -5
Yeah put me squarely down in the recruiting IS "part" of the problem side... How many of those highly ranked players have a G in front of their name coming in?? We haven't recruited a top 100 guard in 4 years. LJ was a slashing forward in HS..
Also when 1 asst is responsible for 9 of your 13 players on the current roster that's not the balance you need...
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 14:48:19 GMT -5
No offense but thats a ludicrous statement... Which part is ludicrous? If there's evidence that there was another assistant on the staff over the last 3 years that brought in higher rated talent than Hardy, I'd love to see it. Broadus currently responsible for 9 players on the roster by my count.... |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 14:52:15 GMT -5
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Post by trillesthoya on May 5, 2016 14:53:49 GMT -5
this is cool and all but how does this effect our recruitment of chris lykes
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Post by MCIGuy on May 5, 2016 14:57:16 GMT -5
Yeah put me down squarely down in the recruiting IS "part" of the problem side... How many of those highly ranked players have a G in front of their name coming in?? We haven't recruited a top 100 guard in 4 years. LJ he was a slashing forward in HS.. . To be honest we haven't bought in many Gs period regardless of ranking during that span. Another problem for sure. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 15:16:09 GMT -5
Yeah put me down squarely down in the recruiting IS "part" of the problem side... How many of those highly ranked players have a G in front of their name coming in?? We haven't recruited a top 100 guard in 4 years. LJ he was a slashing forward in HS.. . To be honest we haven't bought in many Gs period regardless of ranking during that span. Another problem for sure. 3.... Consider the fact Kaleb Johnson was a PF his Junior year in HS now he's a backup 2 guard in a HM conference... Our roster coming into college 9 Forwards 3 Guards 2 Centers Of the 3 guards, 2 3 stars and a Juco. That's not exactly getting it done at a HM, recruiting positions 3-5 are this programs wheel house obviously.. IMO you could make a strong case for bringing in a strong recruiter, a X's and O's guy, or a developmental coach. Hard to find all 3 in 1 guy. Will be very telling to see what direction they go in. The 18 and 19 recruiting classes are huge for the program so hopefully they hit a homerun |
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Post by prhoya on May 5, 2016 15:18:04 GMT -5
this is cool and all but how does this effect our recruitment of chris lykes /ducks Is Hoyas4Ever available to join as assistant coach in charge of the Chris Lykes recruitment?? |
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Post by GUMBA on May 5, 2016 16:54:11 GMT -5
What is JYD doing these days? He had a cup of coffee at Findlay Prep. Maybe he could help on the recruiting side. Or what about Jonathan Wallace? He might be able to help with guards and Xs and Os...
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Post by kchoya on May 5, 2016 17:29:53 GMT -5
What is JYD doing these days? He had a cup of coffee at Findlay Prep. Maybe he could help on the recruiting side. Or what about Jonathan Wallace? He might be able to help with guards and Xs and Os... Serious question: why do so many people think that [insert former GU player] can join the program and simply "help on the recruiting side." Look at the assistants that are considered to be great recruiters. Almost none of them are big name players returning to their alma maters. Coaches are good recruiters because they put in the time, hit the streets, develop relationships, and can sell the program. To me, it's the same as assuming a former star player will make a good head coach. |
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Post by blueandgray on May 5, 2016 18:06:43 GMT -5
How much of a loss do we think this is? I think Hardy was the one who pulled in Peak and White right after he got here, so he's responsible for bringing in our best player at the moment. Broadus brought in Peak I believe, Hardy brought in Govan but personally I think it's a major opportunity more than a major loss.. Hardy only brought in 1 guy...paul white. That's it. |
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Post by blueandgray on May 5, 2016 18:13:26 GMT -5
Chicago Tribune stated that Hardy played a role in bringing Peak to Georgetown in this profile where Hardy was mentioned as a potential head coaching option for DePaul... "Hardy, 35, helped recruit Paul White and LJ Peak to Georgetown" www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-depaul-coaching-candidates-spt-0316-20150315-story.htmlNBCSports thought so as well... "Hardy has already made a major splash under John Thompson III’s staff at Georgetown by continuing to harvest players from the fertile recruiting ground of Chicago and helping the Hoyas land the (former) Whitney Young duo of L.J. Peak and Paul White." collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/tag/tavaras-hardy/To imply that Hardy wasn't a factor in LJ being a Hoya is disingenous and reeks of sour grapes, IMO. You're wrong my friend. Hardy had nothing to do with LJ. Do you think that Hardy's people may have had something to do with these articles being written. Hardy has every interest in making himself look important....so he is taking credit where he can. I have first hand knowledge of these recruitments ...this is not guess work. Further, it's important to note that Hardy's departure was not a surprise to jt3. There was always a bit of a fit issue in my opinion. |
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