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Post by professorhoya on Sept 7, 2015 13:15:15 GMT -5
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lichoya68
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OK YOUNGINS ARE HERE AND ARE VERY VERY GOOD cant wait GO HOYAS
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Post by lichoya68 on Sept 7, 2015 16:06:49 GMT -5
go to it work hard and stick to it
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drquigley
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Post by drquigley on Sept 7, 2015 19:37:22 GMT -5
I said when we were going through the Whit turmoil that Whit was just a kid who had no desire to go to college but felt he had to in order to achieve his goal of playing in the NBA. I felt then and feel now that he was just a victim of the NBA's failure to set up a legitimate bball minor league where kids like Whit can go after high school, get paid to play, and eventually, if they are good enough, fulfill their dreams of an NBA career. The current system corrupts the colleges who serve as NBA minor league surrogates and does awful things to kids like Whit who have neither the academic ability nor desire to spend a year or two as "student athletes". So good luck to you Whit and I hope you make it in Miami.
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Post by Filo on Sept 8, 2015 9:13:43 GMT -5
I said when we were going through the Whit turmoil that Whit was just a kid who had no desire to go to college but felt he had to in order to achieve his goal of playing in the NBA. I felt then and feel now that he was just a victim of the NBA's failure to set up a legitimate bball minor league where kids like Whit can go after high school, get paid to play, and eventually, if they are good enough, fulfill their dreams of an NBA career. The current system corrupts the colleges who serve as NBA minor league surrogates and does awful things to kids like Whit who have neither the academic ability nor desire to spend a year or two as "student athletes". So good luck to you Whit and I hope you make it in Miami. I understand where you are coming from but I have a hard time seeing why anyone who had no desire to attend college would choose a program like GU. There are plenty of other programs that allow their so-called student athletes to just skate by (the UNC fiasco is just one example). GU did not and does not have that rep, so it is an odd choice for a kid who has no interest in academics. |
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Post by rockhoya on Sept 8, 2015 10:46:04 GMT -5
I said when we were going through the Whit turmoil that Whit was just a kid who had no desire to go to college but felt he had to in order to achieve his goal of playing in the NBA. I felt then and feel now that he was just a victim of the NBA's failure to set up a legitimate bball minor league where kids like Whit can go after high school, get paid to play, and eventually, if they are good enough, fulfill their dreams of an NBA career. The current system corrupts the colleges who serve as NBA minor league surrogates and does awful things to kids like Whit who have neither the academic ability nor desire to spend a year or two as "student athletes". So good luck to you Whit and I hope you make it in Miami. I understand where you are coming from but I have a hard time seeing why anyone who had no desire to attend college would choose a program like GU. There are plenty of other programs that allow their so-called student athletes to just skate by (the UNC fiasco is just one example). GU did not and does not have that rep, so it is an odd choice for a kid who has no interest in academics. Maybe the basketball team was a factor? Just maybe |
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Post by Filo on Sept 8, 2015 11:17:34 GMT -5
I understand where you are coming from but I have a hard time seeing why anyone who had no desire to attend college would choose a program like GU. There are plenty of other programs that allow their so-called student athletes to just skate by (the UNC fiasco is just one example). GU did not and does not have that rep, so it is an odd choice for a kid who has no interest in academics. Maybe the basketball team was a factor? Just maybe You miss my point, probably intentionally so you can post something snide. Well, maybe not intentionally... |
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Post by rockhoya on Sept 8, 2015 11:27:45 GMT -5
Maybe the basketball team was a factor? Just maybe You miss my point, probably intentionally so you can post something snide. Well, maybe not intentionally... You act as if your point was the largest factor in his decision, I was pointing out that it clearly wasn't. He chose GU despite its academic reputation. |
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Post by Filo on Sept 8, 2015 11:51:39 GMT -5
You miss my point, probably intentionally so you can post something snide. Well, maybe not intentionally... You act as if your point was the largest factor in his decision, I was pointing out that it clearly wasn't. He chose GU despite its academic reputation. Ok, Rock. |
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Post by rockhoya on Sept 8, 2015 12:49:45 GMT -5
You act as if your point was the largest factor in his decision, I was pointing out that it clearly wasn't. He chose GU despite its academic reputation. Ok, Rock. Just grow a pair and admit you're wrong instead of posting condescending bull |
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Post by drquigley on Sept 8, 2015 13:34:52 GMT -5
My guess is your are both right. Probably chose GU because of its bball, not academic reputation. GU has a big following among area minority kids and getting a GU bball scholarship is a big deal to them. But when the academic reality set in he crashed and burned. My point is it would be nice if basketball players, like baseball players, had a choice of college or a minor league affiliate of an NBA team.
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Post by kchoya on Sept 8, 2015 13:47:55 GMT -5
I said when we were going through the Whit turmoil that Whit was just a kid who had no desire to go to college but felt he had to in order to achieve his goal of playing in the NBA. I felt then and feel now that he was just a victim of the NBA's failure to set up a legitimate bball minor league where kids like Whit can go after high school, get paid to play, and eventually, if they are good enough, fulfill their dreams of an NBA career. The current system corrupts the colleges who serve as NBA minor league surrogates and does awful things to kids like Whit who have neither the academic ability nor desire to spend a year or two as "student athletes". So good luck to you Whit and I hope you make it in Miami. A victim? Ha! He had a chance at a free education, and now will get paid handsomely, all because he can play basketball. I fail to see how he's a victim. |
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Post by Filo on Sept 8, 2015 14:06:27 GMT -5
Just grow a pair and admit you're wrong instead of posting condescending bull Edited Was going to try a substantive reply, but you are not worth the time and effort, genius. On ignore now. |
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Post by rockhoya on Sept 8, 2015 14:40:03 GMT -5
Just grow a pair and admit you're wrong instead of posting condescending bull Edited Was going to try a substantive reply, but you are not worth the time and effort, genius. On ignore now. Should've done that in the first place since you're clearly so smart and your time is apparently worth so much |
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Post by DanMcQ on Sept 8, 2015 14:42:58 GMT -5
MOD NOTE: Thread locked since we are engaged in a narcissistic slapfight rather than discussing the thread topic. Potentially to be reopened later if there is more news regarding the subject of the thread.
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Post by DanMcQ on May 25, 2020 6:10:59 GMT -5
As promised:
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drquigley
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Post by drquigley on May 25, 2020 12:22:28 GMT -5
The discussion definitely degenerated quickly. But one legit point that should be raised is what is the responsibility of the Coach in such recruiting. Shouldn't the coach have some way to determine if this recruit will really fit at GU as a student/athlete? Talk to high school coach, parents, anybody who really knew the kid before offering the scholarship. Granted if the kid wanted to attend GU badly enough he could probably put up a great front. But I would have thought that JT3, of all people, would have been able to see through that and pass on Whit. When you look at the kids JT3 recruited in that class Whit really stands out as an anomaly.
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Post by HometownHoya on May 25, 2020 12:28:59 GMT -5
The discussion definitely degenerated quickly. But one legit point that should be raised is what is the responsibility of the Coach in such recruiting. Shouldn't the coach have some way to determine if this recruit will really fit at GU as a student/athlete? Talk to high school coach, parents, anybody who really knew the kid before offering the scholarship. Granted if the kid wanted to attend GU badly enough he could probably put up a great front. But I would have thought that JT3, of all people, would have been able to see through that and pass on Whit. When you look at the kids JT3 recruited in that class Whit really stands out as an anomaly. Unfortunately you can only do so much. Also with HS kids, they haven't fully found themselves, maybe they have a hidden character trait that hasn't shown since they've only been focused on bball and haven't had a social life. I think for JT3, Whit was an AI-like character recovery project. On the actual thread tropic, congrats to Greg. I'm sure he has had a hard road and I am glad he has persevered. |
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Post by hoya73 on May 25, 2020 13:37:33 GMT -5
Congrats to Greg, I guess, but...
The article was planted by his agent, so...
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Post by iowa80 on May 25, 2020 14:13:55 GMT -5
Query whether there will be roster openings for guys like Greg if the league tries to resume in Orlando and a bunch of players say "I ain't doing this."
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on May 25, 2020 14:15:03 GMT -5
If Greg were to make the NBA, would he be eligible to have his jersey on the wall?
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