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Post by EtomicB on Oct 30, 2015 10:26:05 GMT -5
Yeah, LJ is not a good comp. Pre-injury he played like Kemp our a young Barkley. Power and athleticism. Post injury he expanded his game. Marcus is more skilled from the outside and less athletic than young Johnson. I think you two are underestimating Derrickson's athleticism. For a 6-8 (in shoes) player, Marcus has elite wingspan 7-1. While there are no measurements back then Barkey had elite wingspan as did Kemp and LJ. On top of that in 2014 he weight 273 lbs and now he is down to 243 lbs. It's likely that he has much more lift and explosiveness not carrying around 40 lbs. Just look at fat Shawn Kemp (6-10 300 lbs) he was half the athlete that he was when he was 6-10 240 lbs. There are clips in his recruiting thread showing Derrickson playing after the weight loss.. He definitely moves around much better but he's still the below the rim player he's always been.. This isn't a knock at all, I love the kids game..
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Post by SFHoya99 on Oct 30, 2015 11:10:02 GMT -5
I think you two are underestimating Derrickson's athleticism. For a 6-8 (in shoes) player, Marcus has elite wingspan 7-1. While there are no measurements back then Barkey had elite wingspan as did Kemp and LJ. On top of that in 2014 he weight 273 lbs and now he is down to 243 lbs. It's likely that he has much more lift and explosiveness not carrying around 40 lbs. Just look at fat Shawn Kemp (6-10 300 lbs) he was half the athlete that he was when he was 6-10 240 lbs. If Derrickson has power and athleticism that is comparable to Kemp, pre-injury LJ and Barkley, I hope that JT3 is recruiting his successor for next year, because he's not going to stick around long. Seriously. With his shot and basketball IQ, he'd be the best player in college basketball this year. Also as importantly to why the comp isn't accurate, is that WHEN LJ had his athleticism, he couldn't shoot or do much from outside. In the 1993-94 he hurt his back. Previous to the injury, he was an interior beast that averaged around 20-10 and shot 25% in the small amount of threes he took. After the injury, he developed a decent three. But he wasn't the same guy athletically, and eventually he became a 5 rpg kind of guy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2015 11:18:59 GMT -5
Keep Marcus away from the Halloween Candy!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2015 11:19:18 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2015 11:21:21 GMT -5
20 nderbilt. (USATSI) Wade Baldwin is set up to succeed at Vanderbilt. (USATSI)
Isaac Copeland, Georgetown
Copeland became a starter for the Hoyas' final 10 games of the season last year, and performed well in the role. He's a 6-foot-9 combo forward on the college level who can shoot well from distance while also getting out in transition and slashing in the halfcourt. It's also worth noting he's a plus defender that John Thompson III can trust in big situations. I'd say that he should be in position to nearly double his scoring average to around 12 points per game this year while providing a bit more of a versatile offensive attack for the Hoyas on the wing.
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Post by prhoya on Oct 31, 2015 12:49:03 GMT -5
I put these 'Film Room' features together this year, I'm sure most have seen it at Casual but thought I'd put them here - just finished the last one on DSR: DSRIsaacPaulTreL.J.Allen, these are spectacular. Any chance you can do one for Hayes? I know it will be short, but it will good to see the video tied to the analysis.
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Post by prhoya on Oct 31, 2015 12:52:27 GMT -5
Marcus is under the radar and will get a chance to surprise Maryland and Wisconsin.
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Post by McBricks on Nov 2, 2015 14:31:17 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 2, 2015 15:29:35 GMT -5
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Post by dense on Nov 2, 2015 15:33:33 GMT -5
I think you focus on who we start against MD as that will be the de facto starting bunch for Radford. Who guards Carter? I am not worried about the other spots as I assume DSR/Sulaimon, Peak/Trimble, Layman/Copeland, Stone/Dodd/Cekovsky V. Hayes (I can't see Govan starting that one but who knows) and then White/Derrickson v. Carter. I think that Carter match-up is the one real mismatch regardless of who we put out there. Hayes also has to limit fouls and move his feet. In that Wisconsin game, I think we have a lot more options & combos. Copeland should be able to check Hayes and Peak v. Koenig. I'd think you'd put White on Layman and Copeland on Carter. I think Paul is a way better post defender than Ike. Both arent great but Paul is better. Layman is basically the same player Ike is in terms of the breadth of their game. Ike is just a better shooter. I'm not as concerned about Carter as most are. He is talented yes but he tends to fall in love with showing his shooting range. He did that at GT. Jack random 3's
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2015 12:31:55 GMT -5
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Post by Cambridge on Nov 3, 2015 15:43:17 GMT -5
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 3, 2015 16:22:28 GMT -5
www.coxhub.com/articles/10-nba-prospects-to-watch-in-the-big-east?utm_campaign=Big%20East%20Basketball&utm_content=23909387&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter4.Isaac Copeland, 6'9", 200 lbs, SO, PF, Georgetown
He might not yet be ready to be a star in the Big East, but his long-term upside is among the best in the conference. His combination of size, athleticism and agility makes him a prototypical three-man at the next level or maybe even a stretch four. His perimeter shooting has continued to develop since high school (check out the video below from the 2014 NPSI tournament) and he's also a good ball-handler within the flow of the offense (not necessarily a creator) and passer. He lacks ideal length and needs to continue to evolve defensively, but has all the tools to make it to the next level with continued development.9.Jessie Govan, 6'10", 270 lbs, FR, Georgetown
It remains to be seen exactly what Govan's contributions will be immediately as a freshmen, but long term he has tools that can definitely translate to a higher level with continued work and development. He's a true center who can score with his back to the basket and should eventually be able to command double teams on the block. His productivity has always come in correlation to his upside and if he can get his body and conditioning right on a full time basis, his long-term potential should follow in line, as should his mobility and ability to step-away from the basket defensively.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2015 20:54:56 GMT -5
www.coxhub.com/articles/10-nba-prospects-to-watch-in-the-big-east?utm_campaign=Big%20East%20Basketball&utm_content=23909387&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter4.Isaac Copeland, 6'9", 200 lbs, SO, PF, Georgetown
He might not yet be ready to be a star in the Big East, but his long-term upside is among the best in the conference. His combination of size, athleticism and agility makes him a prototypical three-man at the next level or maybe even a stretch four. His perimeter shooting has continued to develop since high school (check out the video below from the 2014 NPSI tournament) and he's also a good ball-handler within the flow of the offense (not necessarily a creator) and passer. He lacks ideal length and needs to continue to evolve defensively, but has all the tools to make it to the next level with continued development.9.Jessie Govan, 6'10", 270 lbs, FR, Georgetown
It remains to be seen exactly what Govan's contributions will be immediately as a freshmen, but long term he has tools that can definitely translate to a higher level with continued work and development. He's a true center who can score with his back to the basket and should eventually be able to command double teams on the block. His productivity has always come in correlation to his upside and if he can get his body and conditioning right on a full time basis, his long-term potential should follow in line, as should his mobility and ability to step-away from the basket defensively. OT a bit but they have Blueiit at 7... Maybe it's just me but I don't see NBA prospect at all regarding him
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 3, 2015 21:14:27 GMT -5
Jessie's probably too low at 6'10".
That said, it's nice to see a bit more NBA talent in the BE. It's been dicey the last couple of years.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2015 23:07:58 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2015 23:10:48 GMT -5
athlonsports.com/magazines/georgetown-hoyas-2015-16-basketball-team-preview-and-predictionFrontcourt Georgetown loses both of its post starters from last season in Mikael Hopkins and Joshua Smith, but the Hoyas will be deeper, more talented and more versatile. Freshman center Jessie Govan has everyone in the program excited. He wasn’t a five-star recruit in high school, but he could be poised to make as big an immediate impact as any freshman in the Big East. Govan was one of the best back-to-the-basket scorers in the 2015 class. Sophomore Isaac Copeland should be on every list of national breakout players. The 6'9" forward came on strong in the second half of the season, scoring in double figures in nine of the team’s final 17 games — including 14 points in the NCAA Tournament against Utah. He’s long and athletic and can make shots from the perimeter. He has an NBA future. Sophomore forward Paul White was essentially the opposite of Copeland; White hit double figures in seven of his first 16 games but did it just once the rest of the season. He’s another versatile forward who can score around the rim, but he is capable of stepping out and knocking down 3-pointers (37.7 percent). Thompson III has plenty of depth to use in the frontcourt. Four-star freshman Marcus Derrickson is extremely skilled and will fit in perfectly with the Georgetown offense due to his ability to pass and knock down face-up jumpers - See more at: athlonsports.com/magazines/georgetown-hoyas-2015-16-basketball-team-preview-and-prediction#sthash.FnWqIQfB.dpuf
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2015 23:12:08 GMT -5
www.todaysu.com/big-east-today/georgetown-hoyas/for-georgetowns-dvauntes-smith-rivera-its-about-unfinished-business/Rich Graessle/Icon Sportswire On March 31 of this past year, Georgetown guard D’Vauntes Smith-Rivera thought he had enough of the college life, as he decided to put him name in the NBA draft. Then roughly a week later, he decided he had made a mistake and wisely rescinded his name from NBA draft consideration. That was probably a good thing to do. Considering he was likely a fringe second-round prospect, Smith-Rivera probably made the best decision in his young life, as he still had some things to prove. He said he came back to Georgetown to complete some unfinished business. And he’s happy to be back at Georgetown. “Definitely,” Smith-Rivera said when asked if this season was about unfinished business while at Big East media day. “I want to win a Big East title in my last year. There was a lot of things I felt were un-accomplished over the past couple of years. You want to get better.” Smith-Rivera, a 6’3”, 215-pound senior combo guard from Indianapolis, Indiana, is one of the more accomplished players in the Big East. Last season he was named to the all-Big East first team after averaging 16.3 points, 4.2 rebounds and 3.2 assists per game while shooting .387 percent from three-point range. Smith-Rivera is as deadly with the ball in his hands penetrating as he is connecting from long distance. For his career, Smith-Rivera has scored 1.386 points, marking him the 45th Georgetown player to surpass the 1,000-point plateau. He now ranks 18th all-time on Georgetown scoring list. And with another year to work with, he’ll ascend that list. “We got a lot of young but mature guys,” said Smith-Rivera. “At this point sophomores are considered upperclassmen. They know how to conduct themselves and they work really hard.”
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Nov 4, 2015 0:34:52 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 11:49:29 GMT -5
www.csnmidatlantic.com/ncaa/center-attention-hoyas-freshman-opens-possibilitiesInterview and article: "Jessie allows us -- There has been a large part, both offensively and defensively, things we haven't been able to focus on, take advantage of," Thompson said during a recent interview with CSNmidatlantic.com "Not to say Jessie as a freshman is what Jessie is going to be when he leaves, but he's skilled and yet he's physical. He can go on the block and be very effective just with his sheer size, physicality and skill level," Thompson said. "He can also do the things you want to do at the mid-post and the high-post. "He's able to help four guys and himself, not just help himself or need four guys to help him. That will make things a lot easier for everyone."
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