OOC and BE Schedule Thread **UPDATED**

[Cambridge]

Carlos on the other site is hinting that there is one other big name to be added. No details yet, but jeez, this is getting brutal.

[Deleted]

I heard it was Latvian Select.

[doublehoya]

Fort Hood -- we are curently trying to nail down a home and home with them.

[CAHoya07]

With three non-conference games left to add, they had better be all home games. Right now, because Duke seems to be in January, our only home non-conference game before winter break seems to be the Fairfield game. Especially considering juniors like me who may be abroad in the spring, give us some home games in the fall, I really don't care against who. We're traveling a lot in the fall, which is great, but please, give us some home games too.

Lovin' our schedule right now. Just lovin' it.

[AustinHoya03]

gphoya said:

And no, I did not forget Texas, I just don't really care about Texas.

According to the online GU alumni directory, there are 570 GU alumni in Houston, 383 in Dallas, 292 in Austin, and 218 in San Antonio.

There are 417 alums in Boston, 205 in Cambridge, 27 in Medford, 67 in Somerville.

That adds up to 1463 alums for the I-35/45/10 triangle, and 716 for the Boston area (although I'm probably forgetting some suburb where a lot of GU grads reside -- I don't know Boston that well).

There are over 1000 alumni in Chicago, and over 1000 in NYC.

Is the athletic department trying to cater to these groups? I doubt it. Why would we play a game in El Paso, 600 miles from the next-closest city, San Antonio? It's more likely that GU is trying to boost its national image and recruiting base. We're probably playing four games in the Midwest because it is the beating heart of college basketball (outside of N Carolina).

If the athletic department IS trying to cater to its alumni base, perhaps the difference among these groups in terms of basketball attendance is that folks from the Midwest and Southwest aren't scared of driving, and folks from New England fret over having to travel 160 miles to Fairfield. Additionally, whenever a game is scheduled in these areas, alumni are appreciative and want to see the team, whereas alumni in New England think they have a right to at least 2 games scheduled on their front porch every year.

[Jack]

For Boston, you can add 145 in Brookline, 125 in Newton, 142 in Wellesley, 88 in Needham, and 38 in Brighton, and those are just the first 5 I thought to search. All 5 would fit comfortably within the city limits of Houston, I reckon. Playing in Texas is fine, but playing in Boston every now and again seems pretty darn important. Your point about being willing to drive longer distances is well taken, but it does not make Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio part of the same Metro area for the purposes of counting alumni.

[StPetersburgHoya (Inactive)]

cahoya07 said:

With three non-conference games left to add, they had better be all home games. Right now, because Duke seems to be in January, our only home non-conference game before winter break seems to be the Fairfield game. Especially considering juniors like me who may be abroad in the spring, give us some home games in the fall, I really don't care against who. We're traveling a lot in the fall, which is great, but please, give us some home games too.

Lovin' our schedule right now. Just lovin' it.

Are you going abroad to Russia? Why would you abandon the team like that? Geez ...

[StPetersburgHoya (Inactive)]

Btw, there are a good number of Hoya Alumni in Oklahoma City and Tulsa who will travel to this game ... alumni with last names like Lauinger and Keating ...

[AustinHoya03]

jack said:

For Boston, you can add 145 in Brookline, 125 in Newton, 142 in Wellesley, 88 in Needham, and 38 in Brighton, and those are just the first 5 I thought to search. All 5 would fit comfortably within the city limits of Houston, I reckon. Playing in Texas is fine, but playing in Boston every now and again seems pretty darn important. Your point about being willing to drive longer distances is well taken, but it does not make Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio part of the same Metro area for the purposes of counting alumni.

Not saying we shouldn't play games in Boston, more pointing out that GU probably doesn't have a policy of appeasing its alumni communities with basketball games. If it did we'd be playing SMU every other year, instead of no teams in Texas, ever, before this year, or at least for as long as I can remember. I agree that playing in Boston is important for the team (recruiting, big TV market, t-shirt sales, etc.). It's also important for the University given that so many GU students come from Boston and its good for GU to have its name circulating in the sports pages of one of the largest Catholic communities in the nation.

As far as counting all those cities as part of the same Metro area, consider that 80,000 people from around the state converge on Austin every weekend in the fall for UT football. Another 80,000 head to College Station.

[FromTheBeginning]

Please don't think of El Paso as a "home area" game for Dallas and Houston. Despite being in the same state, it is over 600 miles from Dallas to El Paso - not exactly driving range. Going to games will require at least two nights in El Paso, fighting it out with Sun Bowl participants and fans for limited hotel space.

[AustinHoya03]

fromthebeginning said:

Please don't think of El Paso as a "home area" game for Dallas and Houston. Despite being in the same state, it is over 600 miles from Dallas to El Paso - not exactly driving range. Going to games will require at least two nights in El Paso, fighting it out with Sun Bowl participants and fans for limited hotel space.

I didn't metion El Paso above for that reason. Houston, San Antonio, Austin, and D/FW are all just an afternoon drive away. El Paso is an all-nighter. To put it into perspective, Monterrey to San Antonio is 1/2 the distance of El Paso to S.A.

Despite the distance, I will be in El Paso, aka New Mexico's largest metropolis, in December.

[sunbowl]

On behalf of the Sun Bowl, I just want to express how excited we are here in El Paso that the Hoyas will be playing in our tournament. This will be the 45th edition of the Sun Bowl and we are nationally recognized within the basketball community as one of the top holiday tournaments in America.

I would like to personally invite you to El Paso and hope you can follow the Hoyas. The host hotel for the tournament is the Radisson and you can reserve rooms at [phone]. The Sun Bowl will have a hospitality suite in the hotel and you are more than welcome to join us. We are always open. Our football game this year will be on December 30th and will feature teams from the Pac 10 and Big 10 if you would like to stay a few extra days.

Go Hoyas!!

[jerseyhoya34]

Thanks very much for your kind words about our program. Also appreciated were the comments in the press about us. We're looking forward to the tournament and happy about the invite.

[StPetersburgHoya (Inactive)]

Thanks very much for the kind words and the hotel contact info. How can we get tickets? Is it best to do through our athletic department, the tournament committee website, or through an independent vendor?

[EasyEd]

Does anyone remember the Hoyas (football team) playing in the Sun Bowl somewhere around 1950/51?

[sunbowl]

Tickets for the Sun Bowl can be purchased at the Sun Bowl Association at [phone]. Ask for Ellen. The whole tournament package is $32 a person and can be bought beginning December 1st. If you call Ellen, she can hold you some good tickets. You may want to reserve a small block. Ask her about that.

[sunbowl]

By the way, the Hoyas did play in the Sun Bowl football game on January 2, 1950 losing to the Miners 33-20.

[GPHoya]

one said:

GP, we can show you some of Chicago's finest watering holes before and/or after the DePaul game (and maybe the Illinois game if they play at United Center) if you want to make the trip out. However, I realize the weather that time of year will not permit any golf, and I know how you feel about taking vacations that don't include golf.

ONE:

After certain itinerant Red Sox fans complete their rampage through the South Side next week, it may take until the winter for you to restock those watering holes. I appreciate the invitation and I will watch the schedule closely and hope that the Hoyas combine a swing on a Saturday/Monday to DePaul and Marquette or Notre Dame.

As the geography of the NBE moves west, a rational schedule that included true concern for academics would gravitate toward the Thursday/Saturday format used by the Pac 10 and have teams travelling in pairs with rare deviations for a single conference TV game on Monday through Wednesday being the exception. It won't happen, but it should if the University Presidents stepped up to the plate.

[DFW HOYA]

austinhoya03 said:

I didn't metion El Paso above for that reason. Houston, San Antonio, Austin, and D/FW are all just an afternoon drive away. El Paso is an all-nighter. To put it into perspective, Monterrey to San Antonio is 1/2 the distance of El Paso to S.A. Despite the distance, I will be in El Paso, aka New Mexico's largest metropolis, in December.

Sometime's it's difficult for East Coast people to understand the distance between some Texas cities.
The driving distance from Dallas to El Paso (710 miles) is that of Washington DC to Atlanta. Taking I-10 out of Houston to El Paso would be comparable driving from Georgetown to Chicago (740 miles). From the top of the state (Dalhart, TX) to the border (Brownsville) will run you 961 miles.

(El Paso in December? Yeah, I'll be there.)

[Deleted]

Is JMU the big game Carlos was hinting at?