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Post by hoyatables on Jan 31, 2013 17:33:53 GMT -5
BigDog. I do agree that more needs to be done to make each game an event. I just think that making the game experience appeal to students starts with the students themselves.
And you'll laugh at me saying this, but also agree that the band needs some help. Starting with the return of the Hey song at the under 4 timeout. We also need more dance teams. Even if they are ballroom dance teams. Students will show up for their friends.
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Post by strummer8526 on Jan 31, 2013 17:49:39 GMT -5
BigDog. I do agree that more needs to be done to make each game an event. I just think that making the game experience appeal to students starts with the students themselves. And you'll laugh at me saying this, but also agree that the band needs some help. Starting with the return of the Hey song at the under 4 timeout. We also need more dance teams. Even if they are ballroom dance teams. Students will show up for their friends. It looks like the band has shrunk. Do we not have enough people? I know they're not required to show up to games, but man...watching the conductor play the drums last night was pretty sad.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Jan 31, 2013 19:14:21 GMT -5
During my interviews with HS students, I make them take an oath that they will attend all the Hoya bball games as possible. If they don't, I give them a one (out of nine) on the interview report. JK!!! ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) (although I have an interview tonight; maybe I will try to talk it up ;D)
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Post by lichoya68 on Jan 31, 2013 20:38:16 GMT -5
sad turnout for the halll NOPE they show up for the johnnies who arer AHEAD of us in the standings BIG GAME if we wanna be on the national stage. only important now for pr and seeing the hoyas on tv and in the paper in top twenty five but CRITICAL FOR standings and being at least in the top eight which me must to move forward. go hoyas \ ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png)
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Post by Locker on Jan 31, 2013 20:56:12 GMT -5
We also need more dance teams. Even if they are ballroom dance teams. Fire on the mountain, run boys, run. The devil's in the house of the risin' sun.
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Post by mapei on Jan 31, 2013 21:46:25 GMT -5
We also need more dance teams. Even if they are ballroom dance teams. Fire on the mountain, run boys, run. The devil's in the house of the risin' sun.Ooooooh, bitter memory on that one. On the whole, this is one of the most depressing threads ever. If even the band doesn't show up . . . Do the team members attend the same classes and live in the same dorms as everyone else? I'm wondering if the students know them. I agree with the poster above that people are more likely to show for their friends, or at least people they identify with as fellow students. I suppose our players may take a reduced class load in season and make up for it in the summer, but surely that reduction isn't total - except maybe for Greg . . . (Joke!) ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by LizziebethHoya on Jan 31, 2013 22:16:11 GMT -5
Can we please stop these threads? It's the same year after year after year. I wouldn't even be surprised if some of you copied and pasted your posts from previous years.
Calling students lazy, and laying out each and every one of their transportation options to Verizon is useless. The athletic department needs to make it AS EASY AS POSSIBLE for students to get to these low-demand games. Don't even make them think. A bus directly from campus to the Verizon Center is the only answer.
But let us not forget that even in the "glory days" of 06-08, we struggled to get students there for these kinds of games. So what else can we do? Marketing on campus from Hoya Blue and the Athletic Department. The hype needs to start on day 1 of orientation and then continue from there. I remember coming to campus early to table in front of each frosh dorm and sell season tickets. Be in their faces about it early and often (added bonus for hyping it in front of their parents). Get the RAs on board. Get other student groups on board. This isn't anything particularly difficult.
So let's say we get the students there. How do we keep them there? A top-10 team helps. However, while our team has been consistently good, but it hasn't been consistently great since the Final Four era. So you make the in-game experience fun. Right now, the Stonewalls do 10x more cheering than the students. They just stand there silent. Sometimes, however, they clap. The band/music has to pump them up. I know some alums object to R&R Pt. 2 but MAN THAT GOT ME PUMPED UP ON SATURDAY. The student sections were singing and screaming and it created such a fun in-game atmosphere. We need THAT.
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Post by Just Cos on Jan 31, 2013 22:19:20 GMT -5
We should stop all repeat threads and only talk about...
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Post by Big Dog on Feb 1, 2013 12:17:14 GMT -5
Who has the responsibility for running these games from a promotion/event management standpoint?
By the way, I never go to pro games. Is the atmosphere at Verizon Center EVER electric? It is kind of a staid building. Too much lighting, too big, etc.
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Post by SDHoya on Feb 1, 2013 12:27:13 GMT -5
Who has the responsibility for running these games from a promotion/event management standpoint? By the way, I never go to pro games. Is the atmosphere at Verizon Center EVER electric? It is kind of a staid building. Too much lighting, too big, etc. You've clearly never been to a Capitals game (well not this season, but much of the last 5 years). The problem ain't the building, the problem is filling it with rabid fans.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Feb 1, 2013 12:50:33 GMT -5
I would never travel an hour each way on a weeknight to see us play Seton Hall. So all of these "it's only an hour" people must be superfans.
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Post by Big Dog on Feb 1, 2013 13:02:14 GMT -5
Who has the responsibility for running these games from a promotion/event management standpoint? By the way, I never go to pro games. Is the atmosphere at Verizon Center EVER electric? It is kind of a staid building. Too much lighting, too big, etc. You've clearly never been to a Capitals game (well not this season, but much of the last 5 years). The problem ain't the building, the problem is filling it with rabid fans. I've been to a Caps game. In 2002. Needless to say the place wasn't filled. But obviously I've been to 2006 Duke and 2010 Duke so I know how it can be.
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Post by Buckets on Feb 1, 2013 13:24:11 GMT -5
Can we please stop these threads? It's the same year after year after year. I wouldn't even be surprised if some of you copied and pasted your posts from previous years. ... So let's say we get the students there. How do we keep them there? A top-10 team helps. However, while our team has been consistently good, but it hasn't been consistently great since the Final Four era. So you make the in-game experience fun. Right now, the Stonewalls do 10x more cheering than the students. They just stand there silent. Sometimes, however, they clap. The band/music has to pump them up. I know some alums object to R&R Pt. 2 but MAN THAT GOT ME PUMPED UP ON SATURDAY. The student sections were singing and screaming and it created such a fun in-game atmosphere. We need THAT. Since this is effectively a rehash, I think one area that's actually changed drastically in recent years and will continue to change is television. I watched Wednesday's game from my iPad while I made dinner and drank a beer that cost two dollars. I don't live in the area and wasn't going anyway, but a few years ago, the choice was between going to the game and watching them play or not watching them play at all. Now, you can watch the game regardless; the question is whether it's worth an additional 1.5-2 hours transportation to physically be there (and other things like whether $15 of beer is better as two at the stadium or splitting a case in your room). The game itself is going to be worth it for marquee teams, but there has to be something else for games against teams like Seton Hall.
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 1, 2013 13:43:37 GMT -5
Since this is effectively a rehash, I think one area that's actually changed drastically in recent years and will continue to change is television. I watched Wednesday's game from my iPad while I made dinner and drank a beer that cost two dollars. I don't live in the area and wasn't going anyway, but a few years ago, the choice was between going to the game and watching them play or not watching them play at all. Now, you can watch the game regardless; the question is whether it's worth an additional 1.5-2 hours transportation to physically be there (and other things like whether $15 of beer is better as two at the stadium or splitting a case in your room). The game itself is going to be worth it for marquee teams, but there has to be something else for games against teams like Seton Hall. Two dollar beer? Living the high life, eh? I'm with you on the iPad - great picture while we cooked dinner a bit west of you.
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Post by Big Dog on Feb 1, 2013 18:00:07 GMT -5
One would think that there would be enough DC professionals working downtown who are Gtown alums to fill the arena. I've never been a season ticket holder--is there any kind of VIP pregame "courtside club" or similar set-up where the haves can mingle before the game? One of the ways to turn something into an event is to build a community--a network--of people who always go to the games to see and be seen as they much as they go for the hoops.
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Post by hoyatables on Feb 1, 2013 19:05:31 GMT -5
Again I agree with BigDog. There are informal connections, to be sure, but adding a social component always helps. That game against Seton Hall is actually a good opportunity to talk about business, life, and other things.
That's also my point about students. Going to games isn't just about basketball. It's also about socializing -- it always has been. Crappy games always became a good excuse to catch up / come up with bad ideas / flirt with girls and so on. It also is a non-alcohol based social opportunity , which is a nice change of pace. (Yes, there are many who drink, but the event doesn't revolve around drinking. But the only people who can make that aspect of it work are the students themselves. THey have to come up with how to make it fun -- any sort of top-down imposed mandatory "fun" won't fly. (This doesn't preclude GU from funding the fun -- of course they should.)
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Post by jgalt on Feb 1, 2013 19:18:24 GMT -5
Uh, you are all over thinking this. Its all about the perception of the casual student fan regarding how well the team is playing.
In 06-07 the team was always perceived as playing well (even when they lost a few, they were still thought of as good). The same in 07-08. But in 08-09 when the perception was that they were in a transition year, support was very tenuous, and going to the NIT didn't help for the next season.
The opponent of course helps. During the snow storm in 2010 when we had to walk a dozens of blocks in the snow, there were a lot of students there. Thats because gtown was playing Nova who was perceived as a quality opponent (it also helped that there was nothing else to do).
If this team can win in the NCAAs that will help quite a bit next season.
(There is also a whole lot of analysis you can do about how the entire perception of the sport has shifted and focuses solely on March, to the detriment of the regular season.)
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Post by reformation on Feb 2, 2013 0:10:32 GMT -5
Play Seton Hall, Providence, Depaul at McDonough--it will be a a great experience that the students will remember.
There's probably not a lot we can do to make the students turn out for midweek games vs these teams consistently at verizon . I feel bad for the team and it looks bad for the univ, but short of a dramatic upgrade in these teams stature, I'm not sure there's a lot we can really do.
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Post by jgalt on Feb 2, 2013 1:16:09 GMT -5
It should also be pointed out that many schools who are thought of as having packed stadiums every game in reality do not. Duke may sell out every game, but that doesnt mean every seat has a person in it every game. Same with UNC. Hell, even when they were decent, UMD wouldnt fill up Comcast for every game. If you werent an alum would you have even thought of going to that seton hall game? if so why? and why are you lying about that? ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by Elvado on Feb 2, 2013 6:24:07 GMT -5
We are not talking about sell outs here. If reports are accurate, fewer than 100 students attended that game. If true, and with all due respect to those who went, our student fan base is a joke and we afe not a "Basketball" school.
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