DoctorHoya
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Post by DoctorHoya on Jan 31, 2013 11:17:57 GMT -5
If someone points her to this board, you may have some explaining to do! Haha I joke with her about that all the time. I'm a lucky guy
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Jan 31, 2013 11:21:54 GMT -5
If getting to the game is a priority, you do it. Sadly, mostof the students dont view it as a priority. Their loss, though the team suffers as well.
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hoyatables
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Post by hoyatables on Jan 31, 2013 11:22:48 GMT -5
I don't know how you couldn't get excited about this team. With the exception of the bad loss to Pitt, it has really been a great season. Ugly, but we are still winning. They should erect a giant Jumbotron on Healy Lawn and play Bowen's reverse tip on a loop.
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DoctorHoya
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Post by DoctorHoya on Jan 31, 2013 11:27:50 GMT -5
I don't know how you couldn't get excited about this team. With the exception of the bad loss to Pitt, it has really been a great season. Ugly, but we are still winning. They should erect a giant Jumbotron on Healy Lawn and play Bowen's reverse tip on a loop. If it continues through march then ticket sales will increase NEXT year... I'd be curious to see how many student tickets they actually sold this year
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Jack
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Post by Jack on Jan 31, 2013 11:35:47 GMT -5
I don't buy the "inconsistent results" argument at all. I was an undergrad during the Esherick years, for crying out loud, and we had much larger turnouts. I'm afraid this reflects an unfortunate trend in the type of student a Georgetown - one who would rather spend a Wednesday night at Lau than drunk at a basketball game... Similar sentiments have been expressed on this board practically from its inception, with the possible exception of the heady days of 2006-2008. Georgetown's student body has not changed much in that time. This team is certainly worth supporting, but it has not had the type of inciting incident that moves the casual (non)fan student to keep coming back (the best example being Duke 2006). Beating Louisville in a taught game with a large crowd could have been that moment, but probably lost some of its luster when the Cardinals lost their prior 2 as well. I hope for a good crowd Saturday, and a solid crowd on 2/11 for Marquette, but there really isn't a game on the schedule that can fire up the masses until the Cuse game (and even that may be during break?). It's great to have the opportunity to bid them farewell at the end of the season, but it doesn't exactly help build momentum for the student section.
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nychoya3
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Post by nychoya3 on Jan 31, 2013 11:39:03 GMT -5
Yes, I know that more fans come when the team is better. But the team is GOOD. And we have been good. If we're basically saying, "don't expect the fans to come unless we're going to the final four every year," well, that's just sad.
I do think a lot of it is competition though. The students were numerous and loud against Louisville.
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DoctorHoya
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Post by DoctorHoya on Jan 31, 2013 11:43:19 GMT -5
I don't buy the "inconsistent results" argument at all. I was an undergrad during the Esherick years, for crying out loud, and we had much larger turnouts. I'm afraid this reflects an unfortunate trend in the type of student a Georgetown - one who would rather spend a Wednesday night at Lau than drunk at a basketball game... Similar sentiments have been expressed on this board practically from its inception, with the possible exception of the heady days of 2006-2008. Georgetown's student body has not changed much in that time. This team is certainly worth supporting, but it has not had the type of inciting incident that moves the casual (non)fan student to keep coming back (the best example being Duke 2006). Beating Louisville in a taught game with a large crowd could have been that moment, but probably lost some of its luster when the Cardinals lost their prior 2 as well. I hope for a good crowd Saturday, and a solid crowd on 2/11 for Marquette, but there really isn't a game on the schedule that can fire up the masses until the Cuse game (and even that may be during break?). It's great to have the opportunity to bid them farewell at the end of the season, but it doesn't exactly help build momentum for the student section. Funny thing about the 2006 duke game... It was my senior year of high school and I was deciding between duke and gtown. Chose gtown over duke because of it
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Jan 31, 2013 11:44:38 GMT -5
You people (read: Doctor Hoya) make me sick. It's a joke. I don't care if you don't think we haven't been good (which is complete crap so I won't even bother going into that), but the fact remains this is the ONE big time sport (meaning nationally relevant sport on TV etc etc) that Georgetown has. There's no football (sorry DFW don't kill me). Why the heck wouldn't the students want to go to the games? Even if they're that uneducated about the team, why does this even matter? These are social events to an uneducated fan. I really don't understand it at all.
This is the most frustrating thing ever. This program is a CONSISTENT TOP 25 NATIONAL PROGRAM....and students could care less
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Jan 31, 2013 11:55:35 GMT -5
Actually they COULDN'T care less...
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DoctorHoya
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Post by DoctorHoya on Jan 31, 2013 11:58:19 GMT -5
You people (read: Doctor Hoya) make me sick. It's a joke. I don't care if you don't think we haven't been good (which is complete crap so I won't even bother going into that), but the fact remains this is the ONE big time sport (meaning nationally relevant sport on TV etc etc) that Georgetown has. There's no football (sorry DFW don't kill me). Why the heck wouldn't the students want to go to the games? Even if they're that uneducated about the team, why does this even matter? These are social events to an uneducated fan. I really don't understand it at all. This is the most frustrating thing ever. This program is a CONSISTENT TOP 25 NATIONAL PROGRAM....and students could care less Look, I love our program and think its great. I donate to the team and go to as many games as possible. I was simply saying that to the CASUAL fan, they have a hard time getting excited for a year that pumps them up during the year and let's them down in the tournaments. It is extremely frustrating and I completely agree with you. And yes, I understand that it is the ONE big sport on campus. Buuuut most Georgetown students work their asses off and would probably rather sit and watch at home than make the commute. Even at the end of last nights game when the refs were calling a ton of fouls, one of the things students kept screaming was "quit calling the fouls, I have to get home to do work..." It sucks and idk what to do about it. Hopefully the athletics dept has something up their sleeves or the team has great success this year and can convert some of the students
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Jan 31, 2013 11:59:14 GMT -5
Actually they COULDN'T care less... GAH! ;D LET ME RANT WITH BAD GRAMMAR IF I WANT
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Jan 31, 2013 12:03:05 GMT -5
Sorry. Drives me crazy. Admittedly a short drive
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Jan 31, 2013 12:03:08 GMT -5
You people (read: Doctor Hoya) make me sick. It's a joke. I don't care if you don't think we haven't been good (which is complete crap so I won't even bother going into that), but the fact remains this is the ONE big time sport (meaning nationally relevant sport on TV etc etc) that Georgetown has. There's no football (sorry DFW don't kill me). Why the heck wouldn't the students want to go to the games? Even if they're that uneducated about the team, why does this even matter? These are social events to an uneducated fan. I really don't understand it at all. This is the most frustrating thing ever. This program is a CONSISTENT TOP 25 NATIONAL PROGRAM....and students could care less Look, I love our program and think its great. I donate to the team and go to as many games as possible. I was simply saying that to the CASUAL fan, they have a hard time getting excited for a year that pumps them up during the year and let's them down in the tournaments. It is extremely frustrating and I completely agree with you. And yes, I understand that it is the ONE big sport on campus. Buuuut most Georgetown students work their asses off and would probably rather sit and watch at home than make the commute. Even at the end of last nights game when the refs were calling a ton of fouls, one of the things students kept screaming was "quit calling the fouls, I have to get home to do work..." It sucks and idk what to do about it. Hopefully the athletics dept has something up their sleeves or the team has great success this year and can convert some of the students Fair point. They do need to make it easier to get to games. I'm not expecting big turnouts for weekday Seton Hall games, but weekends have been just as bad. It's a frustrating topic for me as I mentioned and I'm sure alot here who live and breathe for the team so it's alot harder to look at it objectively. It has to be the commute mixed with just general apathy from the student body. Something needs to change though.
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DoctorHoya
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Post by DoctorHoya on Jan 31, 2013 12:04:56 GMT -5
Look, I love our program and think its great. I donate to the team and go to as many games as possible. I was simply saying that to the CASUAL fan, they have a hard time getting excited for a year that pumps them up during the year and let's them down in the tournaments. It is extremely frustrating and I completely agree with you. And yes, I understand that it is the ONE big sport on campus. Buuuut most Georgetown students work their asses off and would probably rather sit and watch at home than make the commute. Even at the end of last nights game when the refs were calling a ton of fouls, one of the things students kept screaming was "quit calling the fouls, I have to get home to do work..." It sucks and idk what to do about it. Hopefully the athletics dept has something up their sleeves or the team has great success this year and can convert some of the students Fair point. They do need to make it easier to get to games. I'm not expecting big turnouts for weekday Seton Hall games, but weekends have been just as bad. It's a frustrating topic for me as I mentioned and I'm sure alot here who live and breathe for the team so it's alot harder to look at it objectively. It has to be the commute mixed with just general apathy from the student body. Something needs to change though. Exactly! You think it was easy for me to accept that getting to last nights game 30 minutes early secured me a seat in the second row of the students section?
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SDHoya
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Post by SDHoya on Jan 31, 2013 12:07:19 GMT -5
You people (read: Doctor Hoya) make me sick. It's a joke. I don't care if you don't think we haven't been good (which is complete crap so I won't even bother going into that), but the fact remains this is the ONE big time sport (meaning nationally relevant sport on TV etc etc) that Georgetown has. There's no football (sorry DFW don't kill me). Why the heck wouldn't the students want to go to the games? Even if they're that uneducated about the team, why does this even matter? These are social events to an uneducated fan. I really don't understand it at all. This is the most frustrating thing ever. This program is a CONSISTENT TOP 25 NATIONAL PROGRAM....and students could care less This is exactly right, and again, I do think a lot of this falls on the athletic department and Hoya Blue's shoulders. This should not be a difficult product to sell, but plain and simple, it must be sold. For die hards, you don't need to do much to get them out. But for the casual student fans, this has to be seen as THE social event on campus, just like a football game is THE social event at an SEC school. Hoya Blue needs to do a better job of convincing students that the Verizon Center, even on a Wednesday night, is the place to be and where all your friends are going to be. All college students work hard, but all college students play hard too. So, I don't buy that logic either. Hoya Blue and the athletic department need to be creative in figuring out how to get students back out there to fill the stands for every game. There are ways to do it that are short of a Final Four. So get on it!
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Post by boxout05 on Jan 31, 2013 12:12:36 GMT -5
Last night's attendance was pathetic, despicable, and inexcusable. Another $0.02, it seems either basketball is no longer viewed as part of the Gtown identity/experience or students view the school as a means to an end (go to class, get grades, get job, move on) rather than a larger part of their identity. Beating Louisville in a taught game with a large crowd could have been that moment, but probably lost some of its luster when the Cardinals lost their prior 2 as well. I don't think that's the kind of thing that moves casual fans because, by definition, they aren't paying attention to that level of detail.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Jan 31, 2013 12:15:51 GMT -5
A friend who was at the game last night sent me a text reporting that only about 1/3 of the Georgetown pep band bothered to show up for the game. Is there some rational explanation for this?
If over half the band isn't showing up for Big East games, that's pretty embarrassing for both GU and the band's student leadership.
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Jack
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Post by Jack on Jan 31, 2013 12:23:04 GMT -5
Beating Louisville in a taught game with a large crowd could have been that moment, but probably lost some of its luster when the Cardinals lost their prior 2 as well. I don't think that's the kind of thing that moves casual fans because, by definition, they aren't paying attention to that level of detail. They pay attention to beating the Number 1 team in the country, which is what Louisville would have been had they won those two games.
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boxout05
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Post by boxout05 on Jan 31, 2013 12:27:16 GMT -5
Ook. Got what you're saying and very true.
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Post by rchoya on Jan 31, 2013 12:30:40 GMT -5
Last night's attendance was pathetic, despicable, and inexcusable. Another $0.02, it seems either basketball is no longer viewed as part of the Gtown identity/experience or students view the school as a means to an end (go to class, get grades, get job, move on) rather than a larger part of their identity. Couldn't you argue that is the same mentality basketball players take? Wasn't Georgetown a means to a lucrative end for the likes of Monroe? Basketball is a fun and important part of the Georgetown community, but the students aren't going to Georgetown to train to be super fans. Not hard to see other priorities getting in the way of watching a 30-point blow out of a team that was 2-5 in conference play
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