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Post by Boz on Mar 14, 2012 8:34:13 GMT -5
Is the game going to be TV'ed in the DC area? I think its on TruTV regardless of geographical region. If you don't get that, it's on your computer. I think my favorite part of all of these Georgetown-hating (or Belmont-loving, I suppose) analyses is that they're all based on guys reading computer stats, as though that mattered in any way shape or form. If I read one upset pick that actually pointed out our real weaknesses (cough-FTshooting-cough) that they have observed in games, as opposed to some random percentage numbers that they picked out of a spreadsheet, I might give it more serious consideration. Isn't it the job of most of these people to, you know, actually watch games? Contrast that with the majority of the guys who are picking Georgetown to win, who usually are pointing out the specific play of certain players (e.g. - Henry, Otto) who they have watched play. Plus, I think Doris Burke picked us to win based on Markel Starks. (Had to throw that one in for RDF there ;D ). Hey, anything can happen on Friday, but I think it's about time we throw out the obsession with computer stats. That's for baseball geeks. |
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Post by McBricks on Mar 14, 2012 8:49:06 GMT -5
Aside from the "not built for comebacks" comment, the "overseeded" comment based on ESPN's made-up BPI, and the stupidity of over/under-appreciation (which means what?), there's nothing really wrong with that analysis in general. A 70/30 chance of us winning? That seems pretty reasonable. And our turnovers issues and their 3 pt proficiency are potential problems. We need to own the boards, play calm and smart. We should win, but Belmont is a good team and it's not like an "upset" would be an historic event. Shouldn't we be pretty pleased with a 70% chance of winning? I am. Though in McBrick's head, I am putting the odds at 100%. No doubt. ;D |
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Post by GUJook97 on Mar 14, 2012 8:59:02 GMT -5
IMO, we have the most favorable matchup we could have gotten for the reasons dense mentioned. If we cant beat Belmont, I would be extremely disappointed. They dont press well. They dont cause a lot of turnovers and make us play transition. They dont have guys that will push Henry off the block. They dont have guards like Iona, Ohio and VCU who run the floor and penetrate. They have spot up 3 point shooters that make tons of open 3s. Even though they didnt pull it out, Iona gave me nightmares about how a team would beat us. And, I have watched Ohio play this year. I think they would have been a tough matchup because of Cooper.
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Post by biggmanu on Mar 14, 2012 8:59:49 GMT -5
I'm thinking a 3-2 matchup zone extended out with our bigger line up in. The second Markel gets burned he's out of the game for Jabril/Greg. I think our 2-3 zone has been solid with Henry in the middle being loud, however I don't think we can drop down to a 2-3 unless the lead is comfortable and we're just trying to slow the pace
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Post by tjm62 on Mar 14, 2012 9:14:22 GMT -5
I hope we don't get bogged down worrying about the 3, Belmont has shot pretty well inside the arc too.
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Post by kchoya on Mar 14, 2012 9:17:14 GMT -5
I'm thinking a 3-2 matchup zone extended out with our bigger line up in. The second Markel gets burned he's out of the game for Jabril/Greg. I think our 2-3 zone has been solid with Henry in the middle being loud, however I don't think we can drop down to a 2-3 unless the lead is comfortable and we're just trying to slow the pace Have we played an actual 3-2 matchup zone at any point this year? Do think it's wise to try something completely new in the tournament? |
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Post by bmartin on Mar 14, 2012 9:32:06 GMT -5
My biggest concern is that Henry stay out of foul trouble. They have some senior centers who appear to have low-post moves/fakes that could draw fouls that might not be called in the Big East.
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Post by crashdavis on Mar 14, 2012 9:52:37 GMT -5
I'm thinking a 3-2 matchup zone extended out with our bigger line up in. The second Markel gets burned he's out of the game for Jabril/Greg. I think our 2-3 zone has been solid with Henry in the middle being loud, however I don't think we can drop down to a 2-3 unless the lead is comfortable and we're just trying to slow the pace Have we played an actual 3-2 matchup zone at any point this year? Do think it's wise to try something completely new in the tournament? I've watched every game and don't recall any use of the 3-2. The only zone used has been a 2-3, although just like skinning a cat, there have been multiple ways it's been done. There's been situations where the Hoyas have packed it in to clog penetration, others where they have spread it out to cover the perimeter, other times where they've matched up out of it, and few timed when they've even trapped out of it. Now I do think this group is smart enough and communicates well enough to try a 3-2. But because of those same characteristics I think they could be just as effective with the 2-3. |
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Post by chep3 on Mar 14, 2012 11:11:24 GMT -5
I dunno, it's kind of tomato tomato in my opinion. In the Pitt game, we flared out the wings far enough to the elbow extended that it at times looked like a 3-2. I think we shift laterally in the zone a lot because our length prevents a ton of skip passes, so when we are aggressive on the perimeter, the 2-3 matchup can look a lot like a 3-2 matchup would. Just play defense like we did against Nova and ND and call it a day.
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Post by NCHoya on Mar 14, 2012 11:15:06 GMT -5
I second that last sentence chep, just play defense like those last two home games and the outcome will take care of itself. Belmont should not beat these Hoyas. Plain and simple, there are no excuses for a loss outside of the usual crazy possibilities that the Hoyas cannot control.
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Post by calhoya on Mar 14, 2012 11:33:48 GMT -5
Key remains the middle. When Henry plays poorly the Hoyas struggle. When he plays well, they are in every game --even when Hollis and Jason are off. Need a contribution from Nate and Markel in this game. The advantage the Hoays have may be with Otto's quickness on the inside and Greg's defense on the outside.
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Post by gtowndynasty on Mar 14, 2012 12:09:25 GMT -5
Key is to take the elements of JTIII and Refs out of the game. Our players are just better than theirs. We should beat them. Dont overcoach it. If they press us, and they WILL, beat the press to score layups/dunks. Dont beat it and pull it back out and run "stuff". That rewards them. The only way to stop a team from pressing you is to beat the pressure and score in transition. Otherwise, they will do it all game and we do not handle pressure well. Put our foot on their neck and defend. Limit turnovers and make them score against our D as it is set up, not our transition D, which is not that good.
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Post by kchoya on Mar 14, 2012 12:13:13 GMT -5
Key is to take the elements of JTIII and Refs out of the game. Our players are just better than theirs. We should beat them. Dont overcoach it. If they press us, and they WILL, beat the press to score layups/dunks. Dont beat it and pull it back out and run "stuff". That rewards them. The only way to stop a team from pressing you is to beat the pressure and score in transition. Otherwise, they will do it all game and we do not handle pressure well. Put our foot on their neck and defend. Limit turnovers and make them score against our D as it is set up, not our transition D, which is not that good. Take JT3 out of the game? |
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Post by TC on Mar 14, 2012 12:30:39 GMT -5
JT3 racking up a quick 2 technicals is clearly the key to the game.
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Post by kchoya on Mar 14, 2012 12:31:20 GMT -5
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Post by superan on Mar 14, 2012 12:31:50 GMT -5
When was the last time JTIII got a technical?
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Post by Boz on Mar 14, 2012 12:34:47 GMT -5
When was the last time JTIII got a technical? When he cussed out John Cahill in Cameron Indoor. But as soon as the ref turned around, he shrugged his shoulders and pointed surreptitiously at Greg Monroe. What? Too soon? |
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Post by Dhall on Mar 14, 2012 12:48:44 GMT -5
Our facilities appear to be better than their facilities, so I'm not worried. |
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Post by gtowndynasty on Mar 14, 2012 13:00:45 GMT -5
Key is to take the elements of JTIII and Refs out of the game. Our players are just better than theirs. We should beat them. Dont overcoach it. If they press us, and they WILL, beat the press to score layups/dunks. Dont beat it and pull it back out and run "stuff". That rewards them. The only way to stop a team from pressing you is to beat the pressure and score in transition. Otherwise, they will do it all game and we do not handle pressure well. Put our foot on their neck and defend. Limit turnovers and make them score against our D as it is set up, not our transition D, which is not that good. Take JT3 out of the game? Yes, as in making the game one where there is little coaching adjustment needed. Our horses vs. theirs and we bash them. Novel concept for you im sure, LD. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 14, 2012 13:39:30 GMT -5
Take JT3 out of the game? Yes, as in making the game one where there is little coaching adjustment needed. Our horses vs. theirs and we bash them. Novel concept for you im sure, LD. Those posters who have criticized JTIII have rarely, if ever, complained about OVERcoaching, so I think we're good for Friday. ;D |
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