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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Mar 9, 2012 21:38:47 GMT -5
I agree. I think it is more just about discussion fodder since we dont really have much else to talk about now ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Speaking of which, go N.J.I.T! They are in the final of the Great West. They are dancing!
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 9, 2012 21:41:55 GMT -5
I thought the Great West had no automatic bid?
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Post by tigerhoya3 on Mar 9, 2012 22:31:26 GMT -5
I thought the Great West had no automatic bid? You're correct. The Great West Conference doesn't get an automatic bid to NCAA Tournament. It's tournament champion gets an automatic bid to the College Insider Tournament (CIT)
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Post by JohnnyJones on Mar 10, 2012 2:29:55 GMT -5
Put together, we are only 9-8 vs the top100. Isn't another way to look at that 9-8 that we have nothing close to a bad loss.
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Mar 10, 2012 6:42:07 GMT -5
That 9-8 has no impact on bad losses. What says we have no bad losses is that we have a zero on the line on games against rpi over 100. That 13-0 is the reason why we were still in the discussion with a team like Michigan who has 12 top 100 wins but also two losses to teams just over 100 in the rpi. I think if Minnesota didn't choke that we would have moved ahead of Michigan on the S curve.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Mar 10, 2012 11:10:55 GMT -5
In a grander scheme today we're also rooting for:
Kentucky over Florida Duke over Florida St Missouri over Baylor Ohio St over Michigan Michigan St over Wisconsin New Mexico over San Diego St
Basically we want any team that's currently projected as a 3,4,5, or 6 to lose to reduce the chance of them jumping us on the 3 line. I think we're pretty secure there, but the sooner the above teams lose the better.
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Post by harlemhoya on Mar 10, 2012 11:19:37 GMT -5
Andy Glockner and Jery Palm, who are better than Lunardi have us on the 4 line.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Mar 10, 2012 11:45:24 GMT -5
Palm has wisconsin ahead of us. Glockener has Indiana ahead of us.
Here's the comparison:
Georgetown 22-8 RPI: 13 SOS: 13 KenPom: 14 Sagarin: 13 Vs. top 25 RPI: 4-3 Vs. top 50 RPI: 7-5 Vs. 50-100 RPI: 2-3 Vs. 100+ RPI: 13-0 Road Record: 5-5 Neutral Record: 2-2 Last 10: 6-4 Loss BE quarter Finals
Wisconsin 24-8 RPI: 20 SOS: 21 KenPom: 6 Sagarin: 8 Vs. top 25 RPI: 4-6 Vs. top 50 RPI: 6-6 Vs. 50-100 RPI: 5-0 Vs. 100+ RPI: 13-2 Road Record:7-4 Neutral Record: 3-0 Last 10: 7-3 Loss B10 Semifinals?
Indiana25-8 RPI: 14 SOS: 23 Kenpom: 11 Sagarin: 9 Vs. Top 25 RPI: 4-5 Vs. top 50 RPI: 8-5 Vs. 50-100 RPI: 3-1 Vs. 100+ RPI: 14-2 Road Record: 5-6 Neutral Record: 2-1 Last 10: 8-2 Loss B10 Quarter Finals
All pretty even Need wisconsin to lose today. If they win then they will likely take our 3 seed. If they lose it's a coin flip between the 3 teams. I think Georgetown has the edge with no bad losses vs. 2 each by the B10 teams.
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Post by westendhoya on Mar 10, 2012 12:12:46 GMT -5
Man I never imagine how big those 2x Memphis wins would end up being
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Post by williambraskyiii on Mar 10, 2012 12:46:30 GMT -5
Man I never imagine how big those 2x Memphis wins would end up being Memphis has really turned it around after their midseason shake-up (right around the time of our second victory over them). When the Memphis guys play with focus they can be a very dangerous team because they are loaded with talent. They are just taking apart a pretty good Marshall team right now in the CONFUSA championship.
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Mar 10, 2012 12:55:19 GMT -5
Some of it might come down to whether or not Michigan State wins the Big Ten title. They could conceivably snag that 4th 1 seed with the early loss by Kansas. The teams we are closest to in S ranking are Big Ten teams. I actually wouldn't mind being the 4 seed in Michigan State's bracket. At this point it's all about matchups anyways.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Mar 10, 2012 12:57:48 GMT -5
I could see GU-Harvard first round matchup...Harvard is probably a 13ish seed, no? Committee likes to create matchups with built-in storylines and former Princeton coach against the Ivy champ could be one.
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Post by KirbyKeger on Mar 10, 2012 13:20:09 GMT -5
I'm betting Harvard could be a 12 or even 11. There was talk that they could even make it at-large. The chances would've been slim obviously, but I have a feeling they'll be better than a 13.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 10, 2012 13:42:40 GMT -5
Wisconsin and Michigan losses I think put us on the 3 line. I just don't see aything in those teams with 9 losses that put them ahead of the Hoyas.
UK, KU, OSU, UNC, Duke, MSU, SU, are locks on the 1-2 lines.
Baylor-Mizzou winner takes the final #2 and the loser gets a #3.
That leaves 3 #3 seeds left. Marquette has one of those. Hoyas and Indiana have the other 2.
Michigan or Wisconsin win and they take a #3 from someone. Lose and they're #4.
Louisville has a very outside chance of sliding in but I really think they're 4/5 depending on tonight.
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Post by GUJook97 on Mar 10, 2012 14:08:28 GMT -5
Some of it might come down to whether or not Michigan State wins the Big Ten title. They could conceivably snag that 4th 1 seed with the early loss by Kansas. The teams we are closest to in S ranking are Big Ten teams. I actually wouldn't mind being the 4 seed in Michigan State's bracket. At this point it's all about matchups anyways. The best result for us is probably for form to hold in the big 10, or at least OSU beating MSU. Is the big 10 really good enough to have two 2 seeds and two 3 seeds? I say no way. All those teams have 6+ losses. Thats why I am somewhat confident we are still in the mix. 3 BE, 3 B12 and 3 B10 teams in the top 12 make sense.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 10, 2012 14:23:43 GMT -5
Some of it might come down to whether or not Michigan State wins the Big Ten title. They could conceivably snag that 4th 1 seed with the early loss by Kansas. The teams we are closest to in S ranking are Big Ten teams. I actually wouldn't mind being the 4 seed in Michigan State's bracket. At this point it's all about matchups anyways. The best result for us is probably for form to hold in the big 10, or at least OSU beating MSU. Is the big 10 really good enough to have two 2 seeds and two 3 seeds? I say no way. All those teams have 6+ losses. Thats why I am somewhat confident we are still in the mix. 3 BE, 3 B12 and 3 B10 teams in the top 12 make sense. Completely agree. And Indiana is more at risk because of this. When you start splitting hairs between all those teams, Indiana is 11-7 in-conference and 1-3 against the other two Big Ten teams fighting for a #3 seed. Also, their best road win is probably NC State. Nice enough but the Hoyas, for not having a great road-neutral record did scalp Alabama, Louisville, and Memphis (n). So I think the Hoosiers drop down before we do.
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Post by GUJook97 on Mar 10, 2012 15:06:26 GMT -5
Kentucky really has to be one of the best teams in a while. It doesn't mean they are a lock to win, but they have to be the biggest favorite in a years,no?
The ACC is required by law to have Duke and UNC play in the final. Wow, that was one of the worst officiated games in a while.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Mar 10, 2012 15:16:10 GMT -5
The ACC is required by law to have Duke and UNC play in the final. Wow, that was one of the worst officiated games in a while. The hilarious part is that Cuse and Pitt voluntarily signed up to go through that crap on an annual basis starting next year. NCSU had that game won by double digits if it had been called anywhere close to fair.
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Post by Eurostar on Mar 10, 2012 15:24:45 GMT -5
Where will the committee put Murray State? They are 30-1.
I think Wisconsin is ahead of Indiana as they are 2-0 against them. So that leaves us vs. Wisconsin. They made it to conf semis and lost to a top 10 team. We made it to the conference quarterfinals and lost to an unranked team. I think they have the edge for the 3 line and we will be the first 4 seed.
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Post by mapei on Mar 10, 2012 15:30:24 GMT -5
NCS threw the ball away with a chance to win. Can't blame that on anyone else. But, if I'm a State fan I still have every right to be angry with the way those last few calls went.
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