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Post by btb (Account Inactive) on Jan 20, 2011 11:49:25 GMT -5
Interesting reading the Seton Hall board and seeing all the praise for JTIII and how calm and collected he had us down the stretch. Hoyas have a lot areas they need to work on: Transition D: This was our main problem. Turnovers: This lead to our main problem. Out of bounds plays: on both ends: On offense we only attempted to score off of out of bounds 2 x the first time chris hit a wide open 3 the second time starks got his shot blocked at the rim. We need to try and score more often rather than just try to get the ball in. On defense on out of bounds play just needs work in general. Defense in general: Obviously needs work, especially stopping penetration. Ironically i thought we did better in the second half denying penetration by theodore in the half court we just didn't get to set up our half court D most of the time and when we forced Seton Hall into going 2's they hit anyway. That being said there was plenty we improved on in this game: 1) Our end of game decision making was better than st. John's and WV. The execution down the stretch was huge and extremely positive. 2) our ball movement against the zone was fantastic and resulted in lots of open looks that we actually connected on at a decent rate. 3) Austin took over the game down the stretch of the first half and the second half. 4) Julian was decisive in the post just like everyone wanted. 5) Hollis had an extremely good game providing a balanced attack. 6) Chris did a good job getting the ball to players in position to score: 6 assists. 7) Nate did a great job setting up players on the back door. 8) the guys battled and did not fold. We've got a whole week to work on our deficiencies. Lots of basketball left to be played. I'm glad you mentioned this, other teams give the Hoyas more props than or fans do...SMH |
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Post by btb (Account Inactive) on Jan 20, 2011 11:51:02 GMT -5
Interesting reading the Seton Hall board and seeing all the praise for JTIII and how calm and collected he had us down the stretch. Hoyas have a lot areas they need to work on: Transition D: This was our main problem. Turnovers: This lead to our main problem. Out of bounds plays: on both ends: On offense we only attempted to score off of out of bounds 2 x the first time chris hit a wide open 3 the second time starks got his shot blocked at the rim. We need to try and score more often rather than just try to get the ball in. On defense on out of bounds play just needs work in general. Defense in general: Obviously needs work, especially stopping penetration. Ironically i thought we did better in the second half denying penetration by theodore in the half court we just didn't get to set up our half court D most of the time and when we forced Seton Hall into going 2's they hit anyway. That being said there was plenty we improved on in this game: 1) Our end of game decision making was better than st. John's and WV. The execution down the stretch was huge and extremely positive. 2) our ball movement against the zone was fantastic and resulted in lots of open looks that we actually connected on at a decent rate. 3) Austin took over the game down the stretch of the first half and the second half. 4) Julian was decisive in the post just like everyone wanted. 5) Hollis had an extremely good game providing a balanced attack. 6) Chris did a good job getting the ball to players in position to score: 6 assists. 7) Nate did a great job setting up players on the back door. 8) the guys battled and did not fold. We've got a whole week to work on our deficiencies. Lots of basketball left to be played. Even if we were undefeated there would still things/deficiencies to work on, but not as many! |
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Post by RDF on Jan 20, 2011 13:16:46 GMT -5
Again--where was anything basketball related in your post? I'm talking specific basketball strategy/discussion that whether you like it or not--is applying what I'm seeing to the actual game being played. Now it might sound harsh--but when posters like you disappear when times go bad because you don't want to read/see negative stuff (I fully understand/support this for people who just want to have fun with it) you miss out the positive things being said. Had several people disagree with me last week for starting a thread/saying that I thought the team showed signs of turning things around in last 9 minutes of Pitt game and showed positive sign.
SH game was too much like DePaul game. Fools gold. You keep playing ball like that--you'll be sitting at home watching NCAA tournament and pondering whether you'll be going to Hewittville or Greenbergville for the NIT 2nd Round game.
I realize your son passed and sorry for your loss. However, I also know/realize most people on any site have personal issues/losses and how we deal is an individual thing. Some posters here have personal health issues that are life threatening but that doesn't mean you can't discuss basketball in a manner that is not always "yay for the kids".
I love Big East basketball--always have. It's not going to make the team better to make excuses for losses. This league has some bad teams--Hoyas have played 3 of them and are 3-0 with 1 good performance (Rutgers) and 2 types of games that lead to losses--which are the facts--as you like to say you state. Facts are--the fans who have had/shared/written concerns have proven to be correct and many of their suggestions have proven to be right as well--we all watch the games being played. Now how we see it/choose to view the game is our own choice--agree with you 100%.
As for my posting style--it's not changed since I've been a member here. We have to be who we are--and for some that means you'll hate me and always hate me--and that's cool with me because I'm not posting to get friends, or pats on back. I post what I see when I talk recruiting, team's performance, III's strengths/weaknesses, and anything else. I've been wrong/will admit when I am. Thing is--if you want to fire little shots at me constantly--you'll get return fire-and if you didn't know that--now you do. I'm a fan/always been a Hoya fan and saying this team's defense sucks and pointing out why/what needs to improve being seen as "not being a fan"--well that is a joke.
This is a messageboard for basketball discussion. Good/Bad, disagreements, but as long as we're talking basketball and not personal stuff, it's free to be talked about. I don't hate anyone on this site who posts--I'll get into heated arguments with them about things but I don't hate them--but I do hate any mentality that doesn't want to address reality/problems within the program. Many of us support the team financially through donations, buying tickets, etc...and want to see improvement. Improvement isn't about winning National Titles every year, making Final Fours, etc....it's seeing players improve throughout the season/career. Teams should be getting better at weakpoints over the course of a season and what disturbs me right now-the same weaknesses a lot of these guys have as players isn't any better 3 years later. Why? What is going on? Facilities are talked about--but what does that have to do with not playing good defense/team defense? What about applying a strategy that hasnt' worked with personnel on team is improvement?
Student Athletes are learning to be adults--and with their exposure/level they are at comes critical analysis. As any coach will tell you--when people stop criticizing/asking for more from a player--they are done. Nobody is calling these guys names or saying they are incapable. They are saying they aren't any better and want to know why? How do things improve? You have your way--which is to support the team "harder". Great. How's that worked the past 3 years? My way is to talk openly and bring up specific basketball talk that most of the board can understand/see and if you have different view--I'm more then open to hearing it and will support something that is a great point of view--admit mine is wrong. Just want to see things get better--and no I don't bet on any sporting event-unless it's a pool for NCAA Tournament--which I'd say almost everyone here does.
Just tired of this new attitude where fans aren't fans because they don't see the "great" in everything. If the team plays great--they'll get called great. If they play hard and lose--I commend them. If they stink-they stink. Just going to call it as I see it and think III is addressing a lot of his deficiencies in recruiting/future but as for the current team, I think he's done a D level coaching job in Big East play to this point and want to see him/team improve.
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Post by btb (Account Inactive) on Jan 20, 2011 13:29:19 GMT -5
Again--where was anything basketball related in your post? I'm talking specific basketball strategy/discussion that whether you like it or not--is applying what I'm seeing to the actual game being played. Now it might sound harsh--but when posters like you disappear when times go bad because you don't want to read/see negative stuff (I fully understand/support this for people who just want to have fun with it) you miss out the positive things being said. Had several people disagree with me last week for starting a thread/saying that I thought the team showed signs of turning things around in last 9 minutes of Pitt game and showed positive sign. SH game was too much like DePaul game. Fools gold. You keep playing ball like that--you'll be sitting at home watching NCAA tournament and pondering whether you'll be going to Hewittville or Greenbergville for the NIT 2nd Round game. I realize your son passed and sorry for your loss. However, I also know/realize most people on any site have personal issues/losses and how we deal is an individual thing. Some posters here have personal health issues that are life threatening but that doesn't mean you can't discuss basketball in a manner that is not always "yay for the kids". I love Big East basketball--always have. It's not going to make the team better to make excuses for losses. This league has some bad teams--Hoyas have played 3 of them and are 3-0 with 1 good performance (Rutgers) and 2 types of games that lead to losses--which are the facts--as you like to say you state. Facts are--the fans who have had/shared/written concerns have proven to be correct and many of their suggestions have proven to be right as well--we all watch the games being played. Now how we see it/choose to view the game is our own choice--agree with you 100%. As for my posting style--it's not changed since I've been a member here. We have to be who we are--and for some that means you'll hate me and always hate me--and that's cool with me because I'm not posting to get friends, or pats on back. I post what I see when I talk recruiting, team's performance, III's strengths/weaknesses, and anything else. I've been wrong/will admit when I am. Thing is--if you want to fire little shots at me constantly--you'll get return fire-and if you didn't know that--now you do. I'm a fan/always been a Hoya fan and saying this team's defense sucks and pointing out why/what needs to improve being seen as "not being a fan"--well that is a joke. This is a messageboard for basketball discussion. Good/Bad, disagreements, but as long as we're talking basketball and not personal stuff, it's free to be talked about. I don't hate anyone on this site who posts--I'll get into heated arguments with them about things but I don't hate them--but I do hate any mentality that doesn't want to address reality/problems within the program. Many of us support the team financially through donations, buying tickets, etc...and want to see improvement. Improvement isn't about winning National Titles every year, making Final Fours, etc....it's seeing players improve throughout the season/career. Teams should be getting better at weakpoints over the course of a season and what disturbs me right now-the same weaknesses a lot of these guys have as players isn't any better 3 years later. Why? What is going on? Facilities are talked about--but what does that have to do with not playing good defense/team defense? What about applying a strategy that hasnt' worked with personnel on team is improvement? Student Athletes are learning to be adults--and with their exposure/level they are at comes critical analysis. As any coach will tell you--when people stop criticizing/asking for more from a player--they are done. Nobody is calling these guys names or saying they are incapable. They are saying they aren't any better and want to know why? How do things improve? You have your way--which is to support the team "harder". Great. How's that worked the past 3 years? My way is to talk openly and bring up specific basketball talk that most of the board can understand/see and if you have different view--I'm more then open to hearing it and will support something that is a great point of view--admit mine is wrong. Just want to see things get better--and no I don't bet on any sporting event-unless it's a pool for NCAA Tournament--which I'd say almost everyone here does. Just tired of this new attitude where fans aren't fans because they don't see the "great" in everything. If the team plays great--they'll get called great. If they play hard and lose--I commend them. If they stink-they stink. Just going to call it as I see it and think III is addressing a lot of his deficiencies in recruiting/future but as for the current team, I think he's done a D level coaching job in Big East play to this point and want to see him/team improve. "I realize your son passed and sorry for your loss. However, I also know/realize most people on any site have personal issues/losses and how we deal is an individual thing. Some posters here have personal health issues that are life threatening but that doesn't mean you can't discuss basketball in a manner that is not always "yay for the kids". " I not speaking on behalf of anyone I'm talking about me, I'm not talking anyone else having health or the above, you're really Editeding me off, I can't say what I want to say, so I'm going to leave it at that. I have discuss basketball and life through basketball, but you obviously not a TRUE HOYA FAN, and if you don't like what I just said, I hope you'll get over it, you don't have to be sorry for my son's loss and then come and say what you said because obviously you don't care, and I don't want you to care and have any sympathy. I was simply trying to tell you you were wrong saying I wasn't a part of the team or being affiliated with the team. I know my team and I am a Hoya, so I don't have to explain or say anything anymore to you because your just a like a disgruntled employee at a job angry, sad, mad, discouraged mostly all the below. I'll pray for you and the problem you seem to have. What were you saying during the nonconference wins? Was our coach such a bad coach then, was the team such a bad team or was it as soon as we lost a game you just geeked out into a negative Hulk...well anyway sad to say Hoya Saxa? or what dude, #ABIGJOKE LOL! |
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jan 20, 2011 13:32:09 GMT -5
RDF, I believe you've said that there's nothing you can't learn from loss that you can't learn from a win. I think this is a great example. Clearly by his quotes JTIII sees that defense needs to improve and will be a focus of this week. We got the win, but also got a clear message sent to everyone. And most importantly we now have a week to work on it. Win-Win-Win!
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Post by btb (Account Inactive) on Jan 20, 2011 13:40:57 GMT -5
This dude RDF is a very assuming and thinking out of the box...I think we all are watching these games, but some...I realize that some criticize constructively positively, some criticize unconstructively, nobody is putting anyting under the carpet, but you still have to ENCOURAGE our team...you can talk about this and that being wrong, and what we need to do and on and on, but the FACT that still remains we need to ENCOURAGE the Hoyas...now folks read words and turn those words into their OWN meanings and assume, welllllllllllllllllllll, that's a whole different ballgame there, lol...there's just no need in saying anything to them but God Bless...Also our conference is rated the #1 conference in the land, any given night from TOP to BOTTOM any of these teams can beat you, NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY!!!....This is the BIG EAST understand it, let it sink in. Yes, we are making mistakes, can they be corrected, yessss, so sit back and relax and appreciate it's basketball season because if it was summer we be complaining, "man, I wish the season would get here.", lol...well it's here and some folks still ain't satisfied #whatamiserablelifeonemayhave idk...As we have kids of our own, we watching them stumbe and fall but pick them back, some do it differently and that's fine as long as it's constructive and it works and it's for the betterment of them or whatever it may be...
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Post by btb (Account Inactive) on Jan 20, 2011 13:47:24 GMT -5
RDF says:
Just tired of this new attitude where fans aren't fans because they don't see the "great" in everything. If the team plays great--they'll get called great. If they play hard and lose--I commend them. If they stink-they stink. Just going to call it as I see it and think III is addressing a lot of his deficiencies in recruiting/future but as for the current team, I think he's done a D level coaching job in Big East play to this point and want to see him/team improve
WOW, AND HUH? ASSUMING? YESSSSSSSS NEW ATTITUDE? LOL WOW #MEMEMEMEMEMEDUDEIIIIIIMEMEME Do you own this board or something, oh I guess nothing matters to anyone but you?? I'm just asking not ASSUMING haha
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Post by RDF on Jan 20, 2011 13:47:46 GMT -5
Again--where was anything basketball related in your post? I'm talking specific basketball strategy/discussion that whether you like it or not--is applying what I'm seeing to the actual game being played. Now it might sound harsh--but when posters like you disappear when times go bad because you don't want to read/see negative stuff (I fully understand/support this for people who just want to have fun with it) you miss out the positive things being said. Had several people disagree with me last week for starting a thread/saying that I thought the team showed signs of turning things around in last 9 minutes of Pitt game and showed positive sign. SH game was too much like DePaul game. Fools gold. You keep playing ball like that--you'll be sitting at home watching NCAA tournament and pondering whether you'll be going to Hewittville or Greenbergville for the NIT 2nd Round game. I realize your son passed and sorry for your loss. However, I also know/realize most people on any site have personal issues/losses and how we deal is an individual thing. Some posters here have personal health issues that are life threatening but that doesn't mean you can't discuss basketball in a manner that is not always "yay for the kids". I love Big East basketball--always have. It's not going to make the team better to make excuses for losses. This league has some bad teams--Hoyas have played 3 of them and are 3-0 with 1 good performance (Rutgers) and 2 types of games that lead to losses--which are the facts--as you like to say you state. Facts are--the fans who have had/shared/written concerns have proven to be correct and many of their suggestions have proven to be right as well--we all watch the games being played. Now how we see it/choose to view the game is our own choice--agree with you 100%. As for my posting style--it's not changed since I've been a member here. We have to be who we are--and for some that means you'll hate me and always hate me--and that's cool with me because I'm not posting to get friends, or pats on back. I post what I see when I talk recruiting, team's performance, III's strengths/weaknesses, and anything else. I've been wrong/will admit when I am. Thing is--if you want to fire little shots at me constantly--you'll get return fire-and if you didn't know that--now you do. I'm a fan/always been a Hoya fan and saying this team's defense sucks and pointing out why/what needs to improve being seen as "not being a fan"--well that is a joke. This is a messageboard for basketball discussion. Good/Bad, disagreements, but as long as we're talking basketball and not personal stuff, it's free to be talked about. I don't hate anyone on this site who posts--I'll get into heated arguments with them about things but I don't hate them--but I do hate any mentality that doesn't want to address reality/problems within the program. Many of us support the team financially through donations, buying tickets, etc...and want to see improvement. Improvement isn't about winning National Titles every year, making Final Fours, etc....it's seeing players improve throughout the season/career. Teams should be getting better at weakpoints over the course of a season and what disturbs me right now-the same weaknesses a lot of these guys have as players isn't any better 3 years later. Why? What is going on? Facilities are talked about--but what does that have to do with not playing good defense/team defense? What about applying a strategy that hasnt' worked with personnel on team is improvement? Student Athletes are learning to be adults--and with their exposure/level they are at comes critical analysis. As any coach will tell you--when people stop criticizing/asking for more from a player--they are done. Nobody is calling these guys names or saying they are incapable. They are saying they aren't any better and want to know why? How do things improve? You have your way--which is to support the team "harder". Great. How's that worked the past 3 years? My way is to talk openly and bring up specific basketball talk that most of the board can understand/see and if you have different view--I'm more then open to hearing it and will support something that is a great point of view--admit mine is wrong. Just want to see things get better--and no I don't bet on any sporting event-unless it's a pool for NCAA Tournament--which I'd say almost everyone here does. Just tired of this new attitude where fans aren't fans because they don't see the "great" in everything. If the team plays great--they'll get called great. If they play hard and lose--I commend them. If they stink-they stink. Just going to call it as I see it and think III is addressing a lot of his deficiencies in recruiting/future but as for the current team, I think he's done a D level coaching job in Big East play to this point and want to see him/team improve. "I realize your son passed and sorry for your loss. However, I also know/realize most people on any site have personal issues/losses and how we deal is an individual thing. Some posters here have personal health issues that are life threatening but that doesn't mean you can't discuss basketball in a manner that is not always "yay for the kids". " I not speaking on behalf of anyone I'm talking about me, I'm not talking anyone else having health or the above, you're really Editeding me off, I can't say what I want to say, so I'm going to leave it at that. I have discuss basketball and life through basketball, but you obviously not a TRUE HOYA FAN, and if you don't like what I just said, I hope you'll get over it, you don't have to be sorry for my son's loss and then come and say what you said because obviously you don't care, and I don't want you to care and have any sympathy. I was simply trying to tell you you were wrong saying I wasn't a part of the team or being affiliated with the team. I know my team and I am a Hoya, so I don't have to explain or say anything anymore to you because your just a like a disgruntled employee at a job angry, sad, mad, discouraged mostly all the below. I'll pray for you and the problem you seem to have. What were you saying during the nonconference wins? Was our coach such a bad coach then, was the team such a bad team or was it as soon as we lost a game you just geeked out into a negative Hulk...well anyway sad to say Hoya Saxa? or what dude, #ABIGJOKE LOL! Non conference/conference are 2 different examples. III coached/handled the team differently. If you want to look how he coached against Temple--that is how most of the conference play has gone--he didn't utilize his press as much, he didn't utilize his bench as much, and didn't adjust to what Temple was doing. My comments all season have been this is a very good offensive team and a poor defensive team--even in victory. That is being a fan too. As for your son-I'm sorry for anyone's personal loss. I just see you posting this everywhere and think you need to realize other people have loss too--we all deal differently. You seem to cope by writing about it in several threads/on every Hoya affiliated site. If that makes you feel better--fine. You applied it to how your perspective on the team/life in general has changed. Great. I'm just saying not everyone is like you--but that doesn't mean we don't share similar problems. Doesn't make us less of a fan. So basically I'm not a fan because I don't agree with you or how you see things? Got it. You do you and I'll stay the same. You're angry because.......  ? Not getting this one--but I don't get a lot of what you say so nothing changed. |
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Post by btb (Account Inactive) on Jan 20, 2011 14:07:49 GMT -5
"I realize your son passed and sorry for your loss. However, I also know/realize most people on any site have personal issues/losses and how we deal is an individual thing. Some posters here have personal health issues that are life threatening but that doesn't mean you can't discuss basketball in a manner that is not always "yay for the kids". " I not speaking on behalf of anyone I'm talking about me, I'm not talking anyone else having health or the above, you're really Editeding me off, I can't say what I want to say, so I'm going to leave it at that. I have discuss basketball and life through basketball, but you obviously not a TRUE HOYA FAN, and if you don't like what I just said, I hope you'll get over it, you don't have to be sorry for my son's loss and then come and say what you said because obviously you don't care, and I don't want you to care and have any sympathy. I was simply trying to tell you you were wrong saying I wasn't a part of the team or being affiliated with the team. I know my team and I am a Hoya, so I don't have to explain or say anything anymore to you because your just a like a disgruntled employee at a job angry, sad, mad, discouraged mostly all the below. I'll pray for you and the problem you seem to have. What were you saying during the nonconference wins? Was our coach such a bad coach then, was the team such a bad team or was it as soon as we lost a game you just geeked out into a negative Hulk...well anyway sad to say Hoya Saxa? or what dude, #ABIGJOKE LOL! Non conference/conference are 2 different examples. III coached/handled the team differently. If you want to look how he coached against Temple--that is how most of the conference play has gone--he didn't utilize his press as much, he didn't utilize his bench as much, and didn't adjust to what Temple was doing. My comments all season have been this is a very good offensive team and a poor defensive team--even in victory. That is being a fan too. As for your son-I'm sorry for anyone's personal loss. I just see you posting this everywhere and think you need to realize other people have loss too--we all deal differently. You seem to cope by writing about it in several threads/on every Hoya affiliated site. If that makes you feel better--fine. You applied it to how your perspective on the team/life in general has changed. Great. I'm just saying not everyone is like you--but that doesn't mean we don't share similar problems. Doesn't make us less of a fan. So basically I'm not a fan because I don't agree with you or how you see things? Got it. You do you and I'll stay the same. You're angry because....... ? Not getting this one--but I don't get a lot of what you say so nothing changed. For the SECOND time, although I don't have to tell you anything, I posted my article for the fact that you said I was not a member of the team or affiliated with Georgetown. Well, guess what I fooled you, so this makes you look like what....I won't say it, I think you already know, I could tell in your writing who you are, lol...as far as my son leave it alone man, leave it alone. I didn't post for anyone to feel sorry for me or because we all have our own health issues or our family members have issues. I DO NOT NEED YOU TO TELL ME TO "REALIZE" anything about anyone's else's family, okay? Got it??? That's so disrespectful, I'm glad I really and truly don't know you...Thank God!  You can only feel less of a fan talking like you do and being disrespectful especially with folks you don't even know over a darn computer #sad! When or wherever I post my story is my business and not your business. Got It? Hope so? If you don't like it, keep to yourself! If you're jealous, please keep it to yourself? And stop assuming why one does what they do!!! I think you need to ask more questions than assume. As coach and staff say's I'm the #1 Gtown fan and that's how it is whether you like it or not slim. It is what it is, I just try to spread my love everywhere, but it's just a couple like you that always has a problem with someone saying or doing something good and just because you think what you need to do is better. That's what you call self-centered!  Like I said YOU GOT ME AND IT ALL MIXED UP SLIM! I'M NOT THE ONE! PEACE! |
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Post by tashoya on Jan 20, 2011 14:15:09 GMT -5
I guess we should get rid of every message board, analyst, sports radio show and that uber-hurtful not top ten that espn has the stones to broadcast. It's just so sad. And DePaul fans should just enjoy the ride.
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Post by bmartin on Jan 20, 2011 14:44:43 GMT -5
Our press is not that good. Like all our defenses it works for a few possessions and then the opponent figures out how to beat it. We change defenses because we are not great at any of them but we can steal a few possessions before the opponent adjusts.
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Post by alleninxis on Jan 20, 2011 15:07:59 GMT -5
Austin makes way too many lazy passes/odd decisions inbounding the ball. I really don't understand why he's still maintained that responsibility. Maintained? I thought Clark or Wright had been our designated inbounder for most of the non-conference schedule. I rather dislike using Chris for the task, not because he's bad at the pass but because I'd rather see the ball back in his hands ASAP (unless it's a designed play for one of the others to catch and release). I'm not talking about taking out the ball after a made basket and facing pressure. I mean under our own hoop on offense. |
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Post by HometownHoya on Jan 20, 2011 15:11:56 GMT -5
Gosh I hate the meltdowns by our fan base. Honestly Everyone should just stick to the chat room. The in game commentary is so reactionary and just looks stupid when you go back and read it. My post was reactionary too and it also looks kinda stupid looking back at it. I rewatched the game this evening. On the whole when we set our man to man defense we did a good job forcing contested shots or getting stops. We jsut didn't get a chance to set our defense due to our offense. Seton Hall did hit a lot of 2 point jumpers that were fading away. I mean how about Theodore's shot that hit the rim the back board the rim and in. Basically our problem was our transition D and turning the ball over. We still have a lot of work to do on the Defensive end. No our defense was not good having watched the game again, but it wouldn't have looked nearly that bad if it wasn't for our turnovers and all the run outs seton Hall got. limiting those chances are more on the offense than the defense in my opinion. Seton Hall is not a terrible team they're 8-11 because their best player has been out most of the year. I wouldn't be surprised if they werer 13-6 or at least 12-5 if he hadn't gone out against alabama. This same team was 9-9 last year in the big east and not far from the NCAAs. if hazell had been healthy all year that's probably where they'd be right now too. Oh and JTIII called 2 time outs during that 19-2 run people! are you guys serious how can people bitch about him not calling a timeout when he called two of them! Watch the game! I seriously cannot manage to be as negative as you guys are. I don't know where you guys find this wellspring of negative feelings inside yourselves. Maybe i'm just young and naive and the world hasn't crushed me yet. But jeez reading the in game comments just makes me feel bad for all of you that you all seemingly can't take joy in anything. enjoy being miserable. Me and glide will have fun supporting the team and always expecting the best. Maybe I'm naive and wrong and this team sucks, but I bet i'll be having a heck of a lot more fun always expecting the best from them rather than assuming the worst. You wouldn't have wanted to be in the chatroom it was BAAAAD...amusingly so though, so it helped through that bad stretch. On D, it seemed to be that most of our breakdowns were on transistion (as you said) but keep in mind that is how Seton Hall likes getting their points. Another reason why our D kept breaking down was that we kept going Zone (which was not so good in its own right) then switching to man HALF WAY THROUGH THE SHOT CLOCK! Thats just absurd, it just leads to confusion and shots like that wide open 3 that Hall had at the end that LUCKILY bounced out (but hey, sometimes the ball bounces your way). I forgot where it was posted but someone linked an excerpt from the Hall-Cuse game recap where they made a similar such run, caused a high number of TOs, and gave Cuse a run for their money. Seton Hall is a good team and is a fighting part of a very deep Big East. Stay optimistic, my friend |
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Jan 20, 2011 15:13:29 GMT -5
Non conference/conference are 2 different examples. III coached/handled the team differently. If you want to look how he coached against Temple--that is how most of the conference play has gone--he didn't utilize his press as much, he didn't utilize his bench as much, and didn't adjust to what Temple was doing. My comments all season have been this is a very good offensive team and a poor defensive team--even in victory. That is being a fan too. As for your son-I'm sorry for anyone's personal loss. I just see you posting this everywhere and think you need to realize other people have loss too--we all deal differently. You seem to cope by writing about it in several threads/on every Hoya affiliated site. If that makes you feel better--fine. You applied it to how your perspective on the team/life in general has changed. Great. I'm just saying not everyone is like you--but that doesn't mean we don't share similar problems. Doesn't make us less of a fan. So basically I'm not a fan because I don't agree with you or how you see things? Got it. You do you and I'll stay the same. You're angry because....... ? Not getting this one--but I don't get a lot of what you say so nothing changed. For the SECOND time, although I don't have to tell you anything, I posted my article for the fact that you said I was not a member of the team or affiliated with Georgetown. Well, guess what I fooled you, so this makes you look like what....I won't say it, I think you already know, I could tell in your writing who you are, lol...as far as my son leave it alone man, leave it alone. I didn't post for anyone to feel sorry for me or because we all have our own health issues or our family members have issues. I DO NOT NEED YOU TO TELL ME TO "REALIZE" anything about anyone's else's family, okay? Got it??? That's so disrespectful, I'm glad I really and truly don't know you...Thank God! You can only feel less of a fan talking like you do and being disrespectful especially with folks you don't even know over a darn computer #sad! When or wherever I post my story is my business and not your business. Got It? Hope so? If you don't like it, keep to yourself! If you're jealous, please keep it to yourself? And stop assuming why one does what they do!!! I think you need to ask more questions than assume. As coach and staff say's I'm the #1 Gtown fan and that's how it is whether you like it or not slim. It is what it is, I just try to spread my love everywhere, but it's just a couple like you that always has a problem with someone saying or doing something good and just because you think what you need to do is better. That's what you call self-centered! Like I said YOU GOT ME AND IT ALL MIXED UP SLIM! I'M NOT THE ONE! PEACE! BTB, you ok? What has you so upset? Realize that sometimes when you write something the tone of what is being said doesn't come across-but I really am concerned about some of the things you type. If you understand what I was saying--then why are you so upset? The intent/tone wasn't to attack you--I think you have yet to talk basketball--you throw out claims like "Mosesssss hass handss......." or "Bowen is the best all around player on team-believe that--it'll be true...."--but what is that doing to help this year's team if they sit/watch? Since you are so close to the team-why don't the coaches listen to your take on these guys and play them more? As for being the #1 Hoya fan--great for you. Cool that coaches acknowledge you and happy you got that "title". I don't know how being a fan makes you part of the team, but if that makes you happy--good for you. If you are a member of the team--get your ass in the gym and play better defense!  |
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Post by RDF on Jan 20, 2011 15:16:45 GMT -5
Maintained? I thought Clark or Wright had been our designated inbounder for most of the non-conference schedule. I rather dislike using Chris for the task, not because he's bad at the pass but because I'd rather see the ball back in his hands ASAP (unless it's a designed play for one of the others to catch and release). I'm not talking about taking out the ball after a made basket and facing pressure. I mean under our own hoop on offense. What's the matter Alleninxis, you don't care for the 3 turnovers/1 to 2 timeouts lost that result in adjustment being throwing ball into backcourt? Benimon's layup attempts are more successful--so that's all that I will say about the inbounds plays/designs. |
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Post by guru on Jan 20, 2011 15:22:10 GMT -5
For the SECOND time, although I don't have to tell you anything, I posted my article for the fact that you said I was not a member of the team or affiliated with Georgetown. Well, guess what I fooled you, so this makes you look like what....I won't say it, I think you already know, I could tell in your writing who you are, lol...as far as my son leave it alone man, leave it alone. I didn't post for anyone to feel sorry for me or because we all have our own health issues or our family members have issues. I DO NOT NEED YOU TO TELL ME TO "REALIZE" anything about anyone's else's family, okay? Got it??? That's so disrespectful, I'm glad I really and truly don't know you...Thank God! You can only feel less of a fan talking like you do and being disrespectful especially with folks you don't even know over a darn computer #sad! When or wherever I post my story is my business and not your business. Got It? Hope so? If you don't like it, keep to yourself! If you're jealous, please keep it to yourself? And stop assuming why one does what they do!!! I think you need to ask more questions than assume. As coach and staff say's I'm the #1 Gtown fan and that's how it is whether you like it or not slim. It is what it is, I just try to spread my love everywhere, but it's just a couple like you that always has a problem with someone saying or doing something good and just because you think what you need to do is better. That's what you call self-centered! Like I said YOU GOT ME AND IT ALL MIXED UP SLIM! I'M NOT THE ONE! PEACE! BTB, you ok? What has you so upset? Realize that sometimes when you write something the tone of what is being said doesn't come across-but I really am concerned about some of the things you type. If you understand what I was saying--then why are you so upset? The intent/tone wasn't to attack you--I think you have yet to talk basketball--you throw out claims like "Mosesssss hass handss......." or "Bowen is the best all around player on team-believe that--it'll be true...."--but what is that doing to help this year's team if they sit/watch? Since you are so close to the team-why don't the coaches listen to your take on these guys and play them more? As for being the #1 Hoya fan--great for you. Cool that coaches acknowledge you and happy you got that "title". I don't know how being a fan makes you part of the team, but if that makes you happy--good for you. If you are a member of the team--get your ass in the gym and play better defense! This back and forth is worthy of the Algonquin Roundtable. Yep, it's gonna be a loooooong week off. |
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Post by prhoya on Jan 20, 2011 15:32:58 GMT -5
Since you are so close to the team-why don't the coaches listen to your take on these guys and play them more? Also, how about asking who the next recruit is? ;D |
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Post by hoopsmccan on Jan 20, 2011 16:42:49 GMT -5
my favorite part is bmartin’s post. in the midst of pages of nonsense slapfighting, he hops on to make an actual comment as if this was a normal, rationale dialogue.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Jan 20, 2011 19:42:44 GMT -5
Will someone step in and tell the children to stop fighting? Put them in timeout.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Jan 20, 2011 20:31:08 GMT -5
I am thoroughly amused mixed with mildly concerned with a dash of uncomfortableness.
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? Not getting this one--but I don't get a lot of what you say so nothing changed. 
Like I said YOU GOT ME AND IT ALL MIXED UP SLIM! I'M NOT THE ONE! PEACE!
