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Post by guru on Dec 9, 2010 23:09:47 GMT -5
The "points in the paint" stat for temple are really going to surprise people. Five of Temple's last seven points came from the line, from a forward averaging 31% this year. He went 5-6. Saw that horrible percentage, but I wonder how big that sample was? His stroke looked really smooth down the stretch. Those were swishes, not rattlers. |
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Post by 02hoya on Dec 9, 2010 23:09:48 GMT -5
Really glad Ochefu caught this game in person, if he did indeed make it there tonight...
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Post by GUMBA on Dec 9, 2010 23:09:58 GMT -5
Hard to believe the Hoyas out rebounded Temple 29 to 21. I felt like our bigs were abused down low and on the glass. And we only shot 31% from behind the arc. Admittedly there were not a ton of open looks out there.
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Post by lichoya68 on Dec 9, 2010 23:10:00 GMT -5
dan wright about vee for sure
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Post by kghoya on Dec 9, 2010 23:10:38 GMT -5
Just like Mazzula in the BET final, a pathetic FT shooter went 5 for 6. While our 85% shooter missed one late.
Well they weren't going to go undefeated but this game didn't have to be the one.
Why wasn't Sanford on Moore more often? Why was Benimon ever on him?
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Post by lichoya68 on Dec 9, 2010 23:11:15 GMT -5
pss and temple plays and played great d for sure nite nite tommarrow is another day go hoyas  |
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Post by CTHoya08 on Dec 9, 2010 23:11:42 GMT -5
eventually running into 'hot teams' and guys who have 'career games' stops being a coincidence. this team has the choice of being an elite team or have another year with (less severe) highs and lows and it really all falls on the defense. It really says something about Julian's play tonight that he got stripped by a guy who was sitting on the ground. I don't care what his stat line looks like, Julian could have been the difference-maker in this game. Instead, he missed a layup, got blocked a few times, and dropped a handful of passes. Agree. It was nice to see him make all his foul shots, but he did not have a good game, on the balance. |
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Post by guru on Dec 9, 2010 23:11:47 GMT -5
eventually running into 'hot teams' and guys who have 'career games' stops being a coincidence. this team has the choice of being an elite team or have another year with (less severe) highs and lows and it really all falls on the defense. It really says something about Julian's play tonight that he got stripped by a guy who was sitting on the ground. I don't care what his stat line looks like, Julian could have been the difference-maker in this game. Instead, he missed a layup, got blocked a few times, and dropped a handful of passes. No one was good, but JV was singularly awful this game. Redeemed himself a bit down the stretch, but for most of the game he was essentially playing for Temple. |
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Post by 757hoyafan on Dec 9, 2010 23:12:36 GMT -5
Damn! Oh well. We will take it out on the next team that we face.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Dec 9, 2010 23:12:52 GMT -5
Of all the mistakes of the night, JTIII had the biggest by not calling a timeout before our last possession.
This was a terrible performance on so many levels.
Temple was a very worthy opponent.
Our interior defense was HORRID!!!!
Based on this performance, it is tough to think our big guys are going to hold up against Syracuse, Pitt, UConn, and other teams with decent big guys.
Man, Julian made up for a little bit with a couple made buckets at the end and some key free throws, but boy he was pretty bad. And Sims seemed out of sorts. Benimon was brutal defensively.
I can't dwell on this any longer. What a frickin' disaster.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Dec 9, 2010 23:13:02 GMT -5
Defense in the second half was much better. Vaughn, despite the comments on this board, played well in the second half. Our offense was not sharp tonight. Credit Temple. Temple came in shooting 63% from the line, but shot 89% tonight. Stuff happens.
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Post by hoyabinx on Dec 9, 2010 23:13:10 GMT -5
eventually running into 'hot teams' and guys who have 'career games' stops being a coincidence. this team has the choice of being an elite team or have another year with (less severe) highs and lows and it really all falls on the defense. It really says something about Julian's play tonight that he got stripped by a guy who was sitting on the ground. I don't care what his stat line looks like, Julian could have been the difference-maker in this game. Instead, he missed a layup, got blocked a few times, and dropped a handful of passes. Well, I disagree on that strip. He got hammered on his arms, I thought. He had some soft plays in the first half, but I think really turned it around there in the second half. I'll take his performance in the first 7 games as indicative of what to expect over the last two. He still throws it down from close more than Monroe did, which I love. (Monroe used to miss bunnies all the time, which Vaughn did tonight once or twice). |
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Post by wahoohoya on Dec 9, 2010 23:13:53 GMT -5
Best defensive possession was the stop on Moore late - right before he stole it from Julian when lying on his back. Just a head scratcher of a performance - they have seemed absolutely inept on offense this year and you let a guy go off for 30. Our guys are going to have off nights on offense, but absolutely no excuse for playing such soft defense all game. Intensity should be a given. We should have learned this lesson last year. And JTIII absolutely should have called his last time out - the team clearly looked out of sorts before Hollis got the ball and made that awful decision.
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Post by Filo on Dec 9, 2010 23:13:55 GMT -5
How many times did JV get stuffed in that first half?
How often was CW completely out of control driving under the hoop?
How many lazy or stupid passes can AF make in a game?
I could go on, but I will just say that was one terrible effort all around. No real positives other than the fact that we played a really terrible game and still almost beat a decent team.
Hope it was just a bad day, but I am starting to get concerned about the defense (or lack thereof) - Temple is not a good offensive team at all, and the Hoyas just couldn't get stops. In fact, I Temple blew a number of easy shots tonight.
Oh, and yes, Vee needs to get more time.
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Post by DanMcQ on Dec 9, 2010 23:15:00 GMT -5
JV is a very solid player... he just needs to know his limits. When he caught the ball and went right up he scored. Handling the ball, on the other hand, lead to problems. He was money on the free throw line which shows he's put a lot of work into it.
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Post by RDF on Dec 9, 2010 23:15:16 GMT -5
Got to hand it to Ramone Moore with 30 points and a steal lying on his back. The guy had the game of his life. And with all the history between the two coaches it is no wonder Temple plays such solid defense on the Hoyas. Fran knows Thompson and his offense probably better than any other coach. Well Thompson should know Dunphy's defense too--and honestly this game was lost at the other end of the court, Georgetown's halfcourt defense royally SUCKED. It was awful. No rotations, not helping teammates, not diving on court for loose balls, and not working to board as a team--too much standing and watching while Temple played. Templed deserved to win--(the storming of the court aside--that was disgraceful--especially when you consider what the group of Hoyas are trying to do--they haven't done anything--they are trying to get to that level). Temple played harder/tougher and Georgetown played an entire 1st Half soft--on both ends, and made silly/young mistakes with veteran guards. Part of being a lead guard--getting the ball to the right people and understanding game/clock--why the hurry? If you are going to hurry and pass the ball to the immediate open man 2 of past 3 games--and not understand you have a potential Conference Player of Year alongside you--it's going to end up negative each time. Hoyas got a break last week-but they paid price this week. Only thing I take away as a positive--they continued to fight hard and found a way to get a chance to win in a game they had no business being in. |
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Dec 9, 2010 23:15:41 GMT -5
I like that we didn't call a timeout on the last play. Don't let Temple's defense get set up and trust your guys to make a play. Austin was wide open and Julian was wide open. Hollis just didn't make the right play.
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Post by NCHoya on Dec 9, 2010 23:15:53 GMT -5
We brought our C+ game to their A game in their house and actually could have still won the game if Hollis sees JV for the dunk. It is a long season, physical teams that have a coach that knows how to play JT3 are always going to give us problems, especially on the road. I thought we could have stole that one, and I hope this at least convinces JT3 to revise final possession play-calling, no more Hollis in that spot. Even though you got a set you liked in that final play, Hollis is just not ready to make the "right" play. Let your stars shine JT3.
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Post by mfk24 on Dec 9, 2010 23:17:14 GMT -5
Let's not forget that if not for two poor performances in their early season tourney, they'd be ranked so I don't think it will be a bad loss for us. At the end of the day, its almost better to lose this game and hope the sting of it helps them get better as a team, than to win it and move on.
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Post by WVHoyasfan on Dec 9, 2010 23:17:15 GMT -5
WOW that game had UGLY written all over it on Gtowns side.They did'nt run their offense at all! No back cuts to the rim,dribbling right into double and tripple teams,shooting off balanced shots.The defense exspecially in the paint was non exsistant.Temple is a good team but they can't shoot at all from outside.Gtown let them go in the paint and make layup after layup.Bottom line is Gtown did'nt show up and deserved that lost b/c they was out of sink the whole game.
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