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Post by lancasterhoyafan on Dec 5, 2010 11:16:12 GMT -5
Anybody concerned that Caprio and Dougherty saw court time and Bowen didn't? Based on his tweets, he doesn't seem very happy lately. I thought there were a few moments yesterday that he could have been worked into the offense. Am I reading into this too much?
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Post by bigelephant on Dec 5, 2010 11:30:20 GMT -5
Saw the game but watched the DVR last night also. I am so happy that III is using the press and traps this year. It paid off big-time yesterday. I'm also glad we are getting every one in to gain experience. Bowen? Maybe he's on the coach's s' list for whatever reason Henry steppin up big time - keep it up! Nate and Jerrelle making good contributions also. As far as three's at this point, I would prefer Nate work on a soft hook inside and a turn around jumper. I still think the surprise of the BE will be the play of our big men. Shout out to Julian too. How about our rebounding trhis year? Last 2 years it was take the 3 and head for the hills - now Henry, Nate, Jerrelle and Jules are really scrapping for the O bound
I remember a year ago March when we signed Bennimon and Sanford - some on the board went nuts over the fact we were not getting AA's - but people are wanting them to get more PT. Go Hoyas - Beat Temple!!!!!!!!!
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Post by RDF on Dec 5, 2010 11:43:22 GMT -5
Aggie fan here. Just thought I'd say it is nice that there are some fans here that have respect for our program. The Aggies have never really been that good with the press and the Hoyas took advantage of it well. I would love to see this game happen again and would love to see the refs let the teams play. If only you would come to our place next year. Good game Dwigt. Don't know any Hoya fan who didn't' have great amount of respect for your coach/program/team coming into the game. Wish you luck rest of season--and really believe that Hoyas will play at your place in future. Georgetown is a program that isn't afraid to play on road or go places other "big" schools don't go, so don't be surprised to see them down the road and hope it happens. Fully expect to see Utah State in NCAA's when March comes around and good luck rest of season.
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Post by RDF on Dec 5, 2010 11:45:15 GMT -5
Anybody concerned that Caprio and Dougherty saw court time and Bowen didn't? Based on his tweets, he doesn't seem very happy lately. I thought there were a few moments yesterday that he could have been worked into the offense. Am I reading into this too much? Bowen's got to be patient---and out of all the players who have played this year--he's seemed the most "anxious" and FR like. He'll get there--just be patient, develop, and plenty of playing time awaits---it's more important to be developing on a good team/winning games, and then when your times comes-you are prepared to help.
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Post by kchoya on Dec 5, 2010 11:47:36 GMT -5
Anybody concerned that Caprio and Dougherty saw court time and Bowen didn't? Based on his tweets, he doesn't seem very happy lately. I thought there were a few moments yesterday that he could have been worked into the offense. Am I reading into this too much? Maybe he's sick or injured? Could be lots of reasons.
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Post by DanMcQ on Dec 5, 2010 11:57:07 GMT -5
Tough to read what a player is thinking through tweets. I can think of a couple instances last year where rumors got started based on misinterpretation of tweets and facebook status posts by a couple of players.
RDF is on the right track. VS did not see the court much last year but made the most of when he did and clearly has been working hard. It's translating into a vital team role this year. Best example: Henry Sims. The same will happen for Bowen if he sticks with it - and there's no reason to think he isn't / won't.
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Post by prhoya on Dec 5, 2010 12:26:33 GMT -5
Yes, Bowen needs to be patient. His length and athleticism will fit perfectly when we go on full-court press. Listen to your upperclassmen.
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Post by lancasterhoyafan on Dec 5, 2010 13:09:19 GMT -5
Tough to read what a player is thinking through tweets. I can think of a couple instances last year where rumors got started based on misinterpretation of tweets and facebook status posts by a couple of players. RDF is on the right track. VS did not see the court much last year but made the most of when he did and clearly has been working hard. It's translating into a vital team role this year. Best example: Henry Sims. The same will happen for Bowen if he sticks with it - and there's no reason to think he isn't / won't. Great points Dan and RDF. Thanks for your input.
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Post by lichoya68 on Dec 5, 2010 15:48:07 GMT -5
I THINK that bowen reminds me of hollis AND henry last year yup needs to be patient and get into things keep calm trust coach im sure as hollis and henry he will be just fine go hoyas and remember john wooden BE QUICK BUT DONT HURRY
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Dec 5, 2010 17:54:02 GMT -5
Great win for Georgetown. Really homer reffing. "Foul" on Freeman in the first half when he drove - replay showed no contact at all. A couple on Wright as well. The worst reffed game in favor of the Hoyas I have ever seen. But great win. Yes, I had trouble justifying that foul. It looked suspicious in real time; on the replay, the USU player seemed to have his arms at his side trying to avoid the foul. But I guess we will take it. These things seem to even out over a year.
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Post by hoya81 on Dec 5, 2010 18:35:35 GMT -5
Refs were comically bad yesterday. Two 10 second violations uncalled, and a lot of guys in the lane for closer to 3 minutes than 3 seconds. So many phantom fouls I lost track. Some on us, but many more on them. I forget which one of them gave the sign for a walk when i think he meant to signal a timeout. That crew shouldn't be allowed to ref CYO ball.
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Post by lichoya68 on Dec 5, 2010 20:59:57 GMT -5
jerrelle got clocked cleaned near the end and was thrown like five or ten feet across the floor NOT a great reffed game for sure but the hoyas adapted to how they were calling it go hoyas way to ADAPT thats the name of the game eg also when we were stuck in slow mo by there d and couldnt get threes as the OVERPLAYED we then pressed and uptempoed AND went around them with our speed and made them play with the overplaying nuf said we can play ALOT of different ways for sure THATS SWEET VERY SWEET .. NO SUGAR BUT VERY SWEET. GO HOYAS ;D ;D ;D
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Post by prhoya on Dec 6, 2010 0:00:45 GMT -5
I rewatched the game tonight, esp. looking for our 3FGAs. Only one 3 (Chris at 5:29 of 1st half) was pressured and at the end of the shot clock. The rest of the 3s were taken with more than :20 seconds left of the shot clock because the shooters were open (good passing and shot selection).
Yes, USU was playing with an extended zone. But, IMO, we had an off-night from 3 because the players were still recovering physically from the MU game. As someone mentioned above, we had plenty of other open looks, but the players passed and went for the higher percentage shots, which were available because the zone was extended. Pretty smart.
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Post by GUJook97 on Dec 6, 2010 9:34:10 GMT -5
Really? i dont agree with that. We were off on our 3s because USU played very good perimeter defense. I cant remember more than a handful of times when we had a 1 second open look at a 3. That was a very good test for us, and Temple will use the same blueprint. Personally, I think the only reason we ran away with the game, to be fair, is because the officiating was garbage. They had like 20 game fouls by 4 minutes into the 2nd half. We would have won, but we wouldnt have won by 17.
I think Temple is the toughest OOC we will play this season for a few reasons - it's a true road game, they are very good on D, and they are a good team in general. Pomeroy only has us as a 1 point favorite. This may also be their best chance left to knock off a very highly ranked team.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Dec 6, 2010 10:00:01 GMT -5
Memphis GUJook? I don't think they are going to be as good, but they are ranked higher and it is a road game.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Dec 6, 2010 10:34:19 GMT -5
Both will be tough, nasty battles. If we play smart and keep focus, both will be Hoya W's.
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Post by GUJook97 on Dec 6, 2010 10:46:21 GMT -5
Memphis GUJook? I don't think they are going to be as good, but they are ranked higher and it is a road game. I think Temple is a tougher match up. I am glad we played USU before that game, though.
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Post by prhoya on Dec 6, 2010 13:22:55 GMT -5
Really? i dont agree with that. We were off on our 3s because USU played very good perimeter defense. I cant remember more than a handful of times when we had a 1 second open look at a 3. That was a very good test for us, and Temple will use the same blueprint. Personally, I think the only reason we ran away with the game, to be fair, is because the officiating was garbage. They had like 20 game fouls by 4 minutes into the 2nd half. We would have won, but we wouldnt have won by 17. Really. I agree with you that USU played very good perimeter defense, but that’s not the reason we just took 9 shots and missed 7. There were various opportunities where the shot was not taken, going instead for an easier shot. One-second open looks are gifts for good shooters. JT3’s general rule for 3’s is good shot selection: if you’re open, then shoot it. The exceptions to this rule depend on the game situation. For example, some shots will have to be hurried while trying to get as good a shot as possible (i.e., down by a few with not much time left or the game getting out of reach; end of shot clock; etc…) or the team will eat the shot clock (ahead by a lot in the second half). This is the breakdown of the 3’s: 1st half 16:12 - CW found in corner all alone with :11 left of shot clock. Missed. 5:29 - CW forced shot at end of shot clock. Missed. 3:16 - AF found by CW with space and two guys closing in. :26 left. Missed. 2nd half 18:18 - Set play with JV passing to JC and setting a screen; JC shoots behind JV with plenty of time; :21 left. Missed. No legs. 18:06 - Same play but with Hollis getting the pass and shooting. First made 3-pointer of game; :27 left. 14:24 - AF gets the screen from JB and shoots; extended arm by USU player coming; :24 left. Missed. 8:21 - Nate alone in corner with #22 jumping out to block, but far from Nate; air-balls. :20 left. Missed. 4:43 - JC finds CW for set-shot, with the small guard jumping out to block. Second 3-pointer made. :31 left. 0:35 - Markel sets his feet and shoots with space with #35 jumping out to block, but far from Markel; :31 left. Only one 3 (Chris at 5:29 of 1st half) was hurried and with a player in his face. The rest of the 3s were taken with plenty of seconds left of the shot clock. What does that say? Good shot selection because the shooters were open. I will not address being down by a lot of points with the game getting out of reach because that was not the situation against USU. As you can see, three of the shots (only 1 made) were taken as part of an often-used designed play: a big (in this case JB or JV) standing one or two feet inside the arc passes to, and sets a screen for, a shooter who is behind the big and one-or two feet behind the arc for an immediate shot. It worked for Hollis. Clark just used arms, no legs. The USU players tried getting around the screens, but were not close to disrupting the shots. The rest of the shots were open looks and the USU players looking like we did last year when leaving a 3-point shooter open: the player lunging at the shooter to try to disrupt, but not even getting a hand to the face because of the space between the players. As for the officiating as responsible for the win, that is subjective. IMO, it was pretty garbage for both sides.
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Post by TBird41 on Dec 6, 2010 13:36:28 GMT -5
As you can see, three of the shots (only 1 made) were taken as part of an often-used designed play: a big (in this case JB or JV) standing one or two feet inside the arc passes to, and sets a screen for, a shooter who is behind the big and one-or two feet behind the arc for an immediate shot. It worked for Hollis. Clark just used arms, no legs. The USU players tried getting around the screens, but were not close to disrupting the shots. Thanks for the analysis. Can I say that I love that designed play? Because I do.
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Post by prhoya on Dec 6, 2010 13:51:10 GMT -5
No problem. BTW, that was lunch.
I'm sure it has a number, but that play should have a name. May I suggest the "J. Wallace"?
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