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Post by FrazierFanatic on Dec 1, 2010 10:57:24 GMT -5
Okay let's not rest on our laurels, we have enjoyed last night's win enough! Should be a very interesting contrast of styles Saturday, and further proof that this band of Hoyas can play any tempo against any team. We may see Julian and Hollis lead the team this time, you can never tell with these guys - they just seem to do whatever it takes to get a win.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Dec 1, 2010 10:59:31 GMT -5
wait we have more games this season???
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Post by nathanhm on Dec 1, 2010 11:20:54 GMT -5
wait we have more games this season??? Geez I'm not sure I'm emotionally ready for another game.
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Post by skyhoya on Dec 1, 2010 11:21:34 GMT -5
seriously, it's a three guard offense, bigs by committee for the HOYAS, any guard can get hot, any big might have a real good game.
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Post by RDF on Dec 1, 2010 11:35:52 GMT -5
Perfect scheduing too--because this is type of game that last year's team would throw a stinker out there--time to show growth and get after their asses!
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Post by BigmanU on Dec 1, 2010 11:42:20 GMT -5
This should be tough test (Totally different style of play than Missouri). Looks like they played BYU pretty tough.
Their undersized "Bigs" (6'7" each) Jardine 10.4 RPG and Wesley 7.2 RPG get after it on the boards and are efficient scorers.
They only have one 3-Pt threat in Green (13-28) .46.5% clip. The rest of their gaurds can't hit the broad side of a barn.
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Post by coloradohoya on Dec 1, 2010 11:59:26 GMT -5
Utah State plays tonight @ Denver. The game is on TV here locally (FSN Rocky Mountain -- 683 on DirecTV). I'll give everyone my impressions after the game...
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Post by theexorcist on Dec 1, 2010 12:20:39 GMT -5
This should be tough test (Totally different style of play than Missouri). Looks like they played BYU pretty tough. Their undersized "Bigs" (6'7" each) Jardine 10.4 RPG and Wesley 7.2 RPG get after it on the boards and are efficient scorers. They only have one 3-Pt threat in Green (13-28) .46.5% clip. The rest of their gaurds can't hit the broad side of a barn. "Jardine"? I dislike them already.
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Post by BigmanU on Dec 1, 2010 13:20:52 GMT -5
Utah State plays tonight @ Denver. The game is on TV here locally (FSN Rocky Mountain -- 683 on DirecTV). I'll give everyone my impressions after the game... Thanks & also: For those with a Sports package it will also air on FCS Central 9PM ET.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Dec 1, 2010 14:25:18 GMT -5
Going to be a really tough game. let's hope our guys can come down off the high of this game and beat a very tough Utah state team. Luckily the game is at home and should have a really good crowd for it since it's the best OOC home game of the year. Finals should still be a week away.
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Post by swhoya on Dec 1, 2010 15:11:22 GMT -5
I think one of the keys to this game is Starks and Sanford getting more run. It's at about 5000 feet. If Chris has to play that much, the legs aren't going to quite be there at that last 3.
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Post by strummer8526 on Dec 1, 2010 15:13:27 GMT -5
I think one of the keys to this game is Starks and Sanford getting more run. It's at about 5000 feet. If Chris has to play that much, the legs aren't going to quite be there at that last 3. Unless the Verizon Center is being relocated or put on very tall stilts, I'm pretty sure that the game is at sea level.
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Post by prhoya on Dec 1, 2010 15:14:55 GMT -5
It's at The Booth.
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Post by Dhall on Dec 1, 2010 15:27:45 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but I don't see how Utah State is tough at all. Although they've won a lot of games, they've beaten zero teams of consequence this season or last, they play in a 2nd or 3rd tier league, they just squeaked by Northeastern (who they lost to last year) and they have to travel from Utah!
I put them squarely in the same category as Wofford, App State, William and Mary, etc. If we lose, it's embarrassing. I think you need to show some baseline level of respect to your opponent but you also have to be confident that you should beat them by a lot.
Now, reverse undo jinx, no whammies, no whammies ....
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Post by swhoya on Dec 1, 2010 15:45:09 GMT -5
Ok I'm wrong. I thought this was a road game for some reason.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Dec 1, 2010 15:52:59 GMT -5
Ok, Here's Utah State in a nutshell....This has the potential to be a very difficult game for us. Stew Morrill is simply one of the best coaches in the country. He's a master at having his team prepared, he's very good in game as well. Plus, Blaine Taylor, ODU's head coach, coached under Morrill for years, so there's that dynamic as well.
This Utah State team will have a chance to win 30 games this season. The Aggies are far and away the best team in the WAC and have eight seniors. This is supposed to be the year they go to the Big Dance and actually win a game. That's why they took this game, Morrill thinks he has the team to play with us, and I have to say that he's right on that.
Anyway, here is their personnel. Thing is, this is a strength game. Our strength is the fact that we have, IMO, the very best backcourt in the country. USU has two of the better wing defenders in the country in Williams and Newbold. It should be a great test for both schools, because this should be anything but a walk for the Hoyas. And our post defense will be tested. No joke. If Wesley were 6-9 instead of 6-6, we'd be talking about a first round pick.
PG: Brockeith Pane - Is a different kind of point guard from what USU usually has because he plays more of a playground style of ball and is a playmaker instead of a game manager. He's great at getting into the lane off the dribble and can finish over bigs. He's also seen two of the best point guards in the country in BYU's Jimmer Fredette and Weber State's Damian Lilliard. He's a junior college transfer who's shown no fear so far. He clashes with Morrill sometimes over tempo, and he hasn't made perimeter shots. But he's already, IMO, one of the best point guards in the WAC. Him and Chris are built the same. Should be a good matchup there.
SG: Tyler Newbold - This is who Austin should guard because you won't have to pay attention to him. He can't score. He's a four-year starter and a great glue guy. Runs the offense well, does a lot of little things that doesn't show up. He has great form on his jumper. Is sneaky athletic and has great lift when he shoots......it just never goes in...He led the team in three-point percentage as a freshman and it's been downhill from there. He's been in a season long slump and in many ways, he's really hindered his team offensively. But man, can he defend. Newbold is strong, smart, knows exactly where to be at what time to be there. He's a great defender, really harassed Fredette and was the only Aggie to be effective against Lilliard, who's being touted as a first round pick in next year's draft, (NBAdraft.net). That makes him pretty important. But Austin should guard him because then he can save most of his energy for the offensive side of the floor. Jason should guard Pooh Williams......which brings us to.......
SF: Pooh Williams - Another great defender. Was actually the defensive player of the year in the WAC last season, but hasn't arguably been the best defender on his own team....go figure. Williams is much different from Newbold. He's extremely athletic, left handed, good off the dribble. He defends on athleticism and has shut down a lot of people that way. For my money, I think he starts on Freeman, although I think Newbold may be better off there. Pooh will score, likes to drive left, and will punch it if given an alley to the basket. He hasn't shot it well at all from deep this season, but is still much more of a threat than Newbold to put the ball in the basket. I saw him actually take over a few games offensively last season, but he's still like the fourth option in the Aggies offense.
PF: Tai Wesley - This right here is who the Hoyas should be very worried about. Im not sure we have anyone that can guard him. Hollis is too small, Julian too slow, Nate too young. Our best option may actually be Henry because the only weakness Tai has is finishing over real length. But as for his game? He's the best low post scorer we will have seen this season. He has Kevin McHale like moves, can shoot with either hand, is extremely patient in the paint, a great passer out of double teams and has the strength to get where he wants. As I said, if he were three inches taller, we'd be talking about an NBA guy. I think we'll need to double him because USU runs a lot of its offense through him. Although, Tai has a penchant for getting into foul trouble like clockwork. That's the only reason BYU won that game, that plus the officials completely, and I mean completely jobbed the Aggies. Utah State, to me, is a better team than BYU and should've won. Wesley will probably be the WAC player of the year. He's not an NBA guy, but he's a great college basketball player.
C: Brady Jardine - Great athlete, jumps through the roof. That allows him to play much bigger than his size. Has at least 35 inch vertical hops and snatches rebounds above the rim. When you see him, he doesn't look like it. Looks like Opie Cunningham a little bit. But he gets up, he blocks a ton of shots from the weakside, and he cleans up misses. He's actually pretty fun to watch. Was recruited as a small forward, but really developed over time. Has posted two consecutive double-doubles and averages almost 10 rebounds a game.
Off the bench - Brian Green: This is the kind of shooter that you don't leave alone. Lacks size, he's only 5-10. But is a sniper from deep. And he makes them under pressure. Limited off the dribble, strictly catch and shoot, but he plays well off Wesley and gets a lot of open looks anyway.
James Walker - Utah State's most hyped freshman in years. 6-2 point guard, pretty athletic, but also in Morrill's doghouse. May or may not see time here.
Nate Bendall - USU's biggest player at 6-9...and started every game last season...but has been injured and will probably see limited minutes for the rest of the season. Can stroke it from midrange and can rebound when he's right, but his foot may never be 100 percent again.
Utah State plays Denver tonight, who also runs the Princeton, although it's alot different than ours. Defending against the Aggies will be a challenge for our bigs. When it comes to it, we're a better team with better players. But this is the kind of team we'll see in the first or second round. When you think of USU, think Northern Iowa of last season, great mid-major team with tons of senior experience that won't be scared in any atmosphere. That's why this will be a great test for both teams
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Post by Dhall on Dec 1, 2010 16:21:36 GMT -5
Most notable wins/losses of Utah State from 2008-2010:
2008-09 Wins: Utah, Wyoming Losses: BYU, St. Mary's, Marquette (NCAA 1st round)
2009-2010 Wins: BYU, Nevada, Wichita State Losses: Utah, Northeastern, St. Mary's, Texas A&M (NCAA 1st round)
2010-2011 Wins: Utah Losses: BYU
It's amazing how they have not even played anybody from a major conference in several years other than their 1st round NCAA losses. Gottlieb alluded to something about the coach not wanting to agree to the road-game-only deals with major teams until this year, but that sounds a bit like a rationalization to me - if the coach thought they were a good team they should have shown it by going on the road and beating someone, anyone, from a major conference. Or at least play in a tournament at a neutral site with those teams. Weird.
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Post by Bando on Dec 1, 2010 16:25:14 GMT -5
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Dec 1, 2010 16:28:33 GMT -5
Dhall,
You're speaking like a guy who's familiar with East Coast basketball only.
BYU won a game in the tournament last season, and spent most of the year in the top 15. They don't play in the big east, but in college basketball that's a major team.
St. Mary's went to the sweet 16. Maybe you heard of them. They beat Villanova, in our conference, to get there.
Nevada had two NBA draft picks last year alone, one in the first round. I won't tell you who they are, I'll let you do the research. In 2008, they had another first rounder. I'll give you a hint. He starts for the Wizards....in our city.
Stew Morrill has one of the best homecourts in the country, bar none. He didn't want to play anyone without a return game. You go to the SPectrum and you'll see why ZERO major conference teams would want to go to Logan. Nothing positive could come out of it.
He also tried for neutral sites, had St. John's and Rutgers lined up for home and homes, but they each reneged at the last moment.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Dec 1, 2010 16:31:33 GMT -5
Utah State is currently 4-1, with wins against Weber St., Southern Utah, U of Utah, and Northeastern, and a loss @ BYU.
Their D does not force a lot of turnovers, and their O does not grab a lot of boards, which works in our favor. They also do not shoot the 3 very well. On the other hand, they don't commit a lot of turnovers either, and get to the line A LOT.
kenpom currently predicts that we will be their ONLY loss for the rest of the season.
Can't let down the intensity or the focus, Hoyas. After such a physical and emotional OT game on the road, this game has trap written all over it. Rest up and get ready for the Aggies.
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