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Post by daytonahoya31 on Dec 1, 2010 23:38:31 GMT -5
I wouldn't go with Jerrelle...I would go with Henry because Tai's biggest weakness is finishing over length....He would score pretty easily on Jerrelle
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Dec 1, 2010 23:43:37 GMT -5
Denver is coached by Joe Scott, who was JT3's replacement at Princeton. He is a strict adherent to the system - perhaps even more so than Pete Carril.
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Post by rustyshackleford on Dec 2, 2010 0:06:46 GMT -5
Great recap daytona....sounds like we have to take this game seriously. From your description, perhaps our best bet with Wesley is going with jerrelle. While I love the guy's effort, I can't believe somebody is suggesting we need more Jerrelle.
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Post by rosslynhoya on Dec 2, 2010 0:13:06 GMT -5
Worth reading their fanboards comments on last nights game. Funny how non-Hoyas see that game. Hoyas undisciplined, run and chuck offense, poor defense and bigs that are foul prone. Also wanting to see more of Nate because he is "horrible." That fanboard is hilarious, primarily because it seems like they've only seen the Mizzou game. We're undisciplined on offense, apparently. And we can only create open looks off the dribble. It's like bizzarro world over there. While I'm sure the USU fanbase is as bad as that of Mizzou's internet denizens, I heard a ton of the same ::expletivedeleted:: today from GU grads (they don't deserve the title "fans" anymore) who commented along the lines of "I looked at the box score this morning, we really suck this year and I hear the refs called everything in our favor." UGH.
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Post by RDF on Dec 2, 2010 1:32:32 GMT -5
There are no more trap games--or should I say there should NOT be anymore trap games/letdowns--at least effort wise. This team has to push forward and keep improving and if they think Utah State isn't going to be capable of beating them--they'll get beat. You respect the game by respecting your opponent and by wanting to get better as a team and worrying about yourself/your own team--but always respect opposing teams. If they need any reminder--pop in the Ohio U game--and this team/program is far superior to Ohio U.
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Post by CTHoya08 on Dec 2, 2010 9:00:49 GMT -5
Great recap daytona....sounds like we have to take this game seriously. From your description, perhaps our best bet with Wesley is going with jerrelle. While I love the guy's effort, I can't believe somebody is suggesting we need more Jerrelle. Same.
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Post by aristides on Dec 2, 2010 9:13:39 GMT -5
Jerrelle is a solid role player. There is a reason he gets minutes, and I think it's because he does a lot of things that don't show up in a box score.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Dec 2, 2010 10:34:45 GMT -5
I disagree with that....Jerrelle is a 6-foot-5 power forward who wouldn't start for most of the teams in the CAA.....He can't shoot, he can't dribble, can't really finish inside. He hustles and scraps, but against a 6-8 kid who hustles and scraps what's he going to do? I was so angry that he was on the floor for us at the end of that Missouri game. It seriously almost cost us a win
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Dec 2, 2010 10:41:00 GMT -5
Jerrelle is Sam Jefferson
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Dec 2, 2010 10:42:36 GMT -5
No he isn't....He's not even close to Sam Jefferson....Sam Jefferson could actually play at the Big East level, he just woefully underperformed.....Jerrelle can't play in the Big East...Love his heart and hustle, but he belongs at Delaware, not at Georgetown
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Dec 2, 2010 10:46:40 GMT -5
An impoverished poor man's Sammy Jeff. Sam Jeff gets a bad rap since he was bloodied at Pitt and committed the most egregious foul in Hoya his story.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Dec 2, 2010 10:48:55 GMT -5
No he isn't....He's not even close to Sam Jefferson....Sam Jefferson could actually play at the Big East level, he just woefully underperformed.....Jerrelle can't play in the Big East...Love his heart and hustle, but he belongs at Delaware, not at Georgetown Jerrelle belongs at ODU. undersized scrapper with no discernible offensive skill. He'd fit in perfectly with some of those guys but he wouldn't even start for them. Jerrelle does NOT need more time. He needs spot time when we need fouls. That said, I think he's about where he should be as long as JV, Hollis, Sims and Lubick are first four to see time in the front court. We will see what JTIII does when Moses comes back, but I think it is premature and a bit naive to think that Moses is going to be able to be plugged in immediately for significant minutes. Edit: I didn't read all of daytona's posts on the subject before posting my own, so I see he covered my thoughts for the most part already.
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Post by wildhoya on Dec 2, 2010 10:50:46 GMT -5
on Wesley--saw last 10 minutes against DU--not terribly impressive--we'll see how he does Sat.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Dec 2, 2010 10:51:31 GMT -5
If he block shots, rebounds and takes up space he should be given 3-5 mins a game. JT2 raves about him. There must be something to that. Benny should not play major minutes at this level.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Dec 2, 2010 11:10:15 GMT -5
Last night was easily Tai Wesley's worst game of the season. He had seven points and seven turnovers, entered the second half with one foul and had four by the 15:00 mark. Wesley's his own worst enemy because he picks up the dumbest fouls that I've ever seen, doesn't even get his money's worth.
But when he's on the floor, he's the most skilled big that we will have faced this season. Our guys are going to have a full lunch with him.
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Post by ihoya on Dec 2, 2010 11:56:56 GMT -5
perry macdonald would be another comparison
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 2, 2010 12:00:16 GMT -5
We always struggle with guys like Wesley. Undersized, smart, strong. We do much better against taller guys.
Henry's length may bother him the most, but Sims' 1 on 1 D weakness is strength -- he's not great at keeping people from backing him down yet. When he does keep good position, he's really tough to score on.
I don't have much hope for Wesley getting in foul trouble, either, simply b/c I feel like it'll get called David/Goliath rather than even. But maybe not.
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Post by blueandgray on Dec 2, 2010 12:11:29 GMT -5
Great recap daytona....sounds like we have to take this game seriously. From your description, perhaps our best bet with Wesley is going with jerrelle. While I love the guy's effort, I can't believe somebody is suggesting we need more Jerrelle. Whether jerrelle plays a role in this game or not, he definitely has a role on this team and jt3 seems to agree. IMO, jerrelle is the best perimeter defending big we have (and despite his improved rebounding I don't consider Hollis a big man), he's tougher than sims, and quicker then both nate and Julian. I am not saying he is better than or has more upside than any of these guys, just saying he's another tool we have that can be used in certain situations. Further, I am not saying we need "more" jerrelle...I am saying we continue using him as we have.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Dec 2, 2010 12:13:29 GMT -5
We did NOT just compare Jerrelle to Perry McDonald!!!....I didn't read that
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Post by blueandgray on Dec 2, 2010 12:18:08 GMT -5
We did NOT just compare Jerrelle to Perry McDonald!!!....I didn't read that Agreed. It's almost impossible to compare anyone to Perry. He's one of a kind and a much, much, much, better player than jerrelle. Perry would start on this team over Hollis or possibly over Jason if Austin played the 2.
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