damnhoya
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Post by damnhoya on Dec 4, 2010 19:12:50 GMT -5
Yes damnhoya....markel hit a 3 in the charleston classic. Thanks B&G. (As long as he doesn't take 3s from beyond NBA range - I believe it was against Mizzou where he took a ridiculously long 3 pointer - they will eventually start falling. He's got the mechanics.)
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Post by DanMcQ on Dec 4, 2010 19:55:07 GMT -5
Just back in Boston after taking my 11 yr-old to the game. A couple quick observations:
1. The press turned a defensive tractor pull into a more uptempo game and basically took USU out of the game.
2. Henry Sims continues to impress. This post-game interchange from the Post article says a lot:
3. 12 points, 11 rebounds (4 offensive), 4 assists, 2 TOs and 3 blocks out of the center position works for me. You?
4. The play where Hollis broke the USU player's ankles at the top of the circle then got a layup was fantastic.
5. Chris Wright sick looked pretty well.
6. The team does not lose much when Vee and Markel sub in - and in many ways, it gains defensive intensity.
7. I did not expect 8-0 looking at this schedule. Great job by the team, from the coaches on down, so far this year.
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Post by DanMcQ on Dec 4, 2010 20:06:17 GMT -5
OK, two more thoughts:
1. I love the schedule Coach has put together: pretty much ALL of these games have involved teams whose styles are likely to be encountered should the Hoyas make the NCAA tournament. They are also a number of different styles.
2. The refs today were great at taking both teams out of rhythm, repeatedly calling fouls that would not be fouls in the Big East and were generally 'fouls' that had no effect on the play. They were at least even towards both teams. This was exactly the kind of officiating teams encounter randomly in the postseason. The Hoyas adjusted, USU did not (of course the Hoyas have a deeper team, but that's another discussion).
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dreamhoya
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Post by dreamhoya on Dec 4, 2010 20:18:37 GMT -5
henry is a bit of a comedian too
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Post by putinnat on Dec 4, 2010 20:45:25 GMT -5
The game was a whistle-fest. What struck me was that last year, you would have seen a lot of looks, head shakes and pleading to the refs that the BS fouls weren't fouls (Greg was the master of this, but Chris was guilty of this too). This year's team actually took advantage of the way the game was called and made it our first half offense (17-19 from the stripe, more points from the line than the field). We keep winning in different ways with different people making key contributions...which bodes well for Temple and the rest of the year.
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Post by blueandgray on Dec 4, 2010 21:08:39 GMT -5
Can't remember the last time we only had 10 turnovers in a game.
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Post by vamosalaplaya on Dec 4, 2010 22:15:20 GMT -5
Great win for Georgetown.
Really homer reffing. "Foul" on Freeman in the first half when he drove - replay showed no contact at all. A couple on Wright as well. The worst reffed game in favor of the Hoyas I have ever seen.
But great win.
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Post by calhoya on Dec 4, 2010 22:51:08 GMT -5
I would like to see Henry, Nate and Jerelle be even more offensive minded around the basket. I noticed that USU never sagged back whenever the ball went in to Henry nate or Jerelle, preferring to keep their zone extended to prevent the kick out. Understandable defense, but if the bigs--other than Julian-- become more of an offensive threat, this will stop.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Dec 5, 2010 0:24:48 GMT -5
Can't remember the last time we only had 10 turnovers in a game. I thought USU was supposed to force a lot of turnovers and not turn the ball over much.
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Post by lichoya68 on Dec 5, 2010 0:36:31 GMT -5
dan good to see you AND your daughter and also agree with all your points oh henry IS much more confidant and thats exactly what he needed to do to become more meanier now YUP GO HOYAS OH HENRY... nice center position number and the third head arrives on dec 12th cant wait go hoyas beat temple ;D ;D
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Post by lichoya68 on Dec 5, 2010 0:41:51 GMT -5
vamosa repectivfully disagree with the homer ref thingy did you see near the end when jerrelle got his clock cleaned and was thrown about five feet cross the floor.. alot of bad calls both ways for sure not the best reffing any body know where they were from??? ps boy did utah state know how to act and take a dive happened a couple of times OSCARS shoulda been given out.. their coach claimed the refs called alot of touch fouls he thought theyd never call in the big east..i thought they were inconsistant some touch fouls sometimes hammered adn no foul but thats just one mans opinion... anyway key thing the hoyas adapted to the refs AND the outside pressure to defend the three by FIRST going inside when overplayed and SECOND.. BY pressing to up the tempo and spark the two point field goals.. the ability to adapt to the situation is the mark of a very good team just saying ..go hoyas beat temple ;D ;D
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Post by RDF on Dec 5, 2010 3:30:09 GMT -5
Loved the press--and it's how you can create momentum and force tempo--Hoyas utilized perfectly.
Very impressed with Utah State's halfcourt defense and offensive sets--they are a very well coached team and good team---this is exactly type of team you see down the line in NCAA's and on neutral court--where underdog gets fans behind them, etc....so it's best to play them. I will say--if Hoyas face them again--I'd pressure them from opening tip--not so much for their weakness as much as I see it as a strength for Georgetown.
Great minutes from bench--and thought Julian and Hollis played strong in limited minutes. Henry and Nate were outstanding (Nate's corner 3 aside--someone leave a door open? LOL)
Loved the growth--in finding a way to win without the hot shooting/open looks from deep (again credit Utah State's defense) and for the talk of the "homer" officiating--I thought Hoyas got some calls-but there were 2 ten second violations clearly ignored that ended up in Utah State getting 5/6 pts in 1st Half--and that was difference in not having a 10pt halftime lead. How this is missed with shot clock in plain site--reminds me of the NFL and how they give an extra second with play clock.
Great job, time to get better, and ready for Temple on Thursday!
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Post by DanMcQ on Dec 5, 2010 4:03:49 GMT -5
but there were 2 ten second violations clearly ignored that ended up in Utah State getting 5/6 pts in 1st Half--and that was difference in not having a 10pt halftime lead. How this is missed with shot clock in plain site-- Trust me: this did not go unnoticed in section 112.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Dec 5, 2010 8:01:18 GMT -5
Many more calls went our way when we ran the press yesterday. No complaints here. A lot of contact on contested passes with no calls. It really turned the tide of the game.
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Post by SirSaxa on Dec 5, 2010 8:34:54 GMT -5
Weren't most of you surprised at HOW effective our press was? It didn't look bad on TV, but neither did it look like the intimidating, All-out pressing of Pops day. Was it how well our guys did? Or how poorly Utah St handled it... REALLY poorly! Not criticizing our guys. They have been executing the press/trap pretty well early in the season -- after almost NEVER using it during the previous JT3 seasons at GU. And I am sure they will get even better as the season unfolds. It just seemed surprisingly easy to turn over U State. And I absolutely LOVE that Chris asked to keep it going and JT3 said "OK". Quote It was at his [Wright's] behest that Georgetown kept up the full-court pressure during a stretch in which his team forced 12 turnovers in 13 minutes.
"For us to be good, we all have input," said Thompson, letting the world know that his system isn't quite as autocratic as perceived from the outside. "It's not like I'm one of these coaches where I'm going to say, 'This is what we're going to do.' When we come to timeouts ... 'What do you see? What do you think?' They have an understanding of how we do things. And there's certain things that they see on the court that you may not see on the sidelines." scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=303380046
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Post by joey0403p on Dec 5, 2010 9:24:10 GMT -5
the 10 second calls were pretty bad. I believe ref's count those 10 seconds themselves though - and if they were on a slow count? that is how it would be missed.
no excuse - just saying that is how it happened.
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Post by seaweed on Dec 5, 2010 9:31:22 GMT -5
Sir -
The quote immediately following that is priceless - Pops asks "How often do you take advice from underclassmen" and III said "very seldom"
On a separate note, the baseline drive where Freak goes alll the way to the reverse layup is sick-tastic, no idea how he got the ball all the way around but it is nice-ilicious.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Dec 5, 2010 10:10:58 GMT -5
Just checked out the video recap on ESPN and no luck is seeing that incredible shot Chris Wright put in the second half with his back to the basket. Too bad. The defense looked great today. Henry keeps on improving and gaining confidence. Good to see Vee continuing to get some run as well. I really like the balance on this team. 16 points from the bench today. Jason and Austin each held under 10 but the teams still wins by 17 points. For those who did not see that play, check the video sub-board highlights put together by rusty98um. Chris' play starts about the 2 min mark. USU highlights
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Post by dwigt on Dec 5, 2010 10:38:43 GMT -5
Aggie fan here.
Just thought I'd say it is nice that there are some fans here that have respect for our program. The Aggies have never really been that good with the press and the Hoyas took advantage of it well. I would love to see this game happen again and would love to see the refs let the teams play.
If only you would come to our place next year.
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Post by prhoya on Dec 5, 2010 10:51:38 GMT -5
It would be awesome to go over there. Both teams would be in transition without its senior leadership. It would have to make sense with the preparation JT3 wants that group to have before the BE season. One of the obstacles I see could be our schedule next year includes the Maui Invitational. Check out the ridiculous set of teams playing next year: www.mauiinvitational.com/Story.asp?story_id=114
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