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Jul 8, 2010 20:10:38 GMT -5
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Jul 8, 2010 20:40:10 GMT -5
Post by ScreamingHoya on Jul 8, 2010 20:40:10 GMT -5
And he's off to Miami. This was the biggest joke I can imagine. Two days ago, I couldn't care less about Lebron. In fact, if he's playing against Boston or LA or anyone aside from Oklahoma City or Washington, I'm rooting for him just because he's leading an underdog team.
48 hours later, he is the biggest piece of trash I can imagine. Tonight is nothing more than a solid hour of complete self-aggrandizement. Who are his pr people? Don't they know that making this announcement in this way makes 100% of the people outside of Miami, including his now former city of Cleveland hate him? Kobe has just moved out of the number 1 slot for my least favorite current player.
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Jul 8, 2010 20:45:16 GMT -5
Post by dense on Jul 8, 2010 20:45:16 GMT -5
That Special just made Lebron the most hated player in the NBA for sure,lol...wtf was he thinking
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Jul 8, 2010 20:49:46 GMT -5
Post by hoyarooter on Jul 8, 2010 20:49:46 GMT -5
And he's off to Miami. This was the biggest joke I can imagine. Two days ago, I couldn't care less about Lebron. In fact, if he's playing against Boston or LA or anyone aside from Oklahoma City or Washington, I'm rooting for him just because he's leading an underdog team. 48 hours later, he is the biggest piece of trash I can imagine. Tonight is nothing more than a solid hour of complete self-aggrandizement. Who are his pr people? Don't they know that making this announcement in this way makes 100% of the people outside of Miami, including his now former city of Cleveland hate him? Kobe has just moved out of the number 1 slot for my least favorite current player. Kobe! Kobe! Kobe! ;D
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Jul 8, 2010 21:15:22 GMT -5
Post by HoyaOnBothSides on Jul 8, 2010 21:15:22 GMT -5
Can't believe what the NBA has become. Would Michael Jordan go running with tail between his legs to join Isiah Thomas in 1991?
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Jul 8, 2010 21:44:59 GMT -5
Post by RBHoya on Jul 8, 2010 21:44:59 GMT -5
And he's off to Miami. This was the biggest joke I can imagine. Two days ago, I couldn't care less about Lebron. In fact, if he's playing against Boston or LA or anyone aside from Oklahoma City or Washington, I'm rooting for him just because he's leading an underdog team. 48 hours later, he is the biggest piece of trash I can imagine. Tonight is nothing more than a solid hour of complete self-aggrandizement. Who are his pr people? Don't they know that making this announcement in this way makes 100% of the people outside of Miami, including his now former city of Cleveland hate him? Kobe has just moved out of the number 1 slot for my least favorite current player. His pr people are his high school buddies, a bunch of college dropouts. I don't think they know what they're doing. I think they thought this whole summer and the media circus would help his "global icon" image that they've said they're shooting for. Instead it has turned a lot of people against him. They thought this 1 hour special would be great publicity to build the lebron brand. I think it's definitely backlashing. Pretty much anybody other than Heat fans are rooting against him after all this, and the fact that he's not going somewhere where it's clearly his team just makes him look like he's riding coattails. I think "his team"-- that is, his buddies and management team, not the Heat--are over their heads and are probably insulated/not in touch with how most of America is going to view all this.
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Jul 8, 2010 21:49:11 GMT -5
Post by strummer8526 on Jul 8, 2010 21:49:11 GMT -5
What are the odds that ESPN turns the backlash into a story, milks that for a few days, and then gets a 10 minute SportsCenter interview w/ Lebron apologizing for the terrible image he's created through all this?
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Jul 8, 2010 21:57:38 GMT -5
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Jul 8, 2010 22:04:39 GMT -5
Post by RusskyHoya on Jul 8, 2010 22:04:39 GMT -5
And he's off to Miami. This was the biggest joke I can imagine. Two days ago, I couldn't care less about Lebron. In fact, if he's playing against Boston or LA or anyone aside from Oklahoma City or Washington, I'm rooting for him just because he's leading an underdog team. 48 hours later, he is the biggest piece of trash I can imagine. Tonight is nothing more than a solid hour of complete self-aggrandizement. Who are his pr people? Don't they know that making this announcement in this way makes 100% of the people outside of Miami, including his now former city of Cleveland hate him? Kobe has just moved out of the number 1 slot for my least favorite current player. Call it the John Calipari school of self-promotion.
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Jul 8, 2010 22:43:29 GMT -5
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Jul 8, 2010 22:43:55 GMT -5
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Jul 8, 2010 23:50:15 GMT -5
Post by sleepyjackson21 on Jul 8, 2010 23:50:15 GMT -5
Lebron has his spectacle and Kevin Durant announces his extension by quietly posting on twitter and says I feel blessed. Go Thunder!
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Jul 9, 2010 8:27:15 GMT -5
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Jul 9, 2010 8:30:05 GMT -5
Post by theexorcist on Jul 9, 2010 8:30:05 GMT -5
I switched between the special while finishing up a game of BioShock. My favorite was ten minutes in, when ESPN's crack research department put up pictures of LeBron in different team jerseys.
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Jul 9, 2010 9:05:38 GMT -5
Post by GIGAFAN99 on Jul 9, 2010 9:05:38 GMT -5
The problem this presents for the Knicks is David Stern has spoken and he has said "F you, your ownership, and your front office."
Stern controls everything in this league and once again the chips fall on the side of Pat Riley. Clearly Stern has had it with trying to make the Knicks a contender because they'll find a way to screw it up. Riley will not.
The finals are set. Miami-LA and finally Lebron vs Kobe for der Kommissar.
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Jul 9, 2010 9:38:06 GMT -5
Post by thebin on Jul 9, 2010 9:38:06 GMT -5
I think the backlash against James is getting a bit over-heated but he could have cut a lot of this off at the pass by doing it in two parts- saying "thank you and goodbye" to Cleveland in one step, and then ANOTHER DAY annoucing where he was going. I don't for a second believe he hadn't written Cleveland off days if not weeks ago. Then he could have had his spectacle (And the charity their money) without making it look like he just publically humiliated his homely date to go home with the hot prom queen.
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Jul 9, 2010 10:42:39 GMT -5
Post by AustinHoya03 on Jul 9, 2010 10:42:39 GMT -5
If Gilbert really believes everything he's saying, why the heck did he want LeBron James to stay in Cleveland as a Cavalier so badly? Oh yeah, money.
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Jul 9, 2010 12:27:06 GMT -5
Post by RDF on Jul 9, 2010 12:27:06 GMT -5
I like Lebron as a player-always have. I also agree with Gilbert regarding his performance in Game 5--it was disgusting. Thing is--I think Lebron is smart to leave Cavs--but think Bulls would've been better choice but understand the Jordan pressure--which would've been insane "Michael won 6....you ONLY won 5...." so Heat makes sense with Wade.
My only anger has come from this mystical world where Chris Bosh is seen as a "superstar"? He's one of the more overrated players in league if you place that label on him. In is role in Miami he's going to be good--because he'll be a piece-not a "star". His money will be paying him like one though and it could prevent Heat from getting key pieces to win-because Wade/Lebron need room to drive/slash and no low post player is going to get touches they'll want--so you'll get journeyman goons and I've got a better low post game then that gelding Bosh.
What will be interesting--seeing them face off against Celtics/Bulls and teams with an intensity and lack of fear--it's going to be weird and almost NWO like in the response from fans in league--I mean even I as a guy who dislikes KG --is thinking--I might be pulling for Geezers in Beantown due to the STAGED/PHONY drama these guys created. If it was natural and they all decided to play together--fine--but this was a full out BS fest which each guy lied and video taped segments to act like they are important. Screw them and screw that!
Give me the Salamander or give me death! Go Celts, Bulls, Magic, etc......
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Jul 9, 2010 12:34:01 GMT -5
Post by theexorcist on Jul 9, 2010 12:34:01 GMT -5
For background - sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/100708What gets me, aside from the public thumbing of Cleveland, is how this is such a wimpy decision. Let's review: Clippers - Challenge of going up against Kobe every night in the city. Make the playoffs three straight years and they retire your number. Win the division and you're on the Top Five players. Minus - the owner is foolish, cheap, and evil. Bulls - Third-largest metro area in the country, people are insane about sports. Win and you're famous. Minus - you'll almost never be Jordan. Cavaliers - Win a championship there and he can run for mayor and win 94% of the vote. Win more than one and "LeBron" becomes the most popular name in Cleveland by a wide margin - the closest thing we have ever seen to owning a town and being a living god, "Hoosiers" come to life. Even if he doesn't win anything, he's still wildly popular. Minus - weak supporting cast. Knicks - Win and the capital of the world makes you the most popular athlete - it's not too hard to become the best Knick of all time if he wins at least one championship. Lots of projections had him making a billion dollars. Minus - weak roster, insane expectations. Nets - Crazy-rish owner essentially rebooting a franchise whose best player left for the 76ers (Dr. J), and whose two second-best (Kidd and Petrovic) were good but not great. He could essentially build his team here. Minus - second team in the city. In all of the above cases, LeBron is by far the headliner - even with the Bulls, he's the focus rather than Rose. Only with the Heat is he a beta. Miami's fans care less - Marino, arguably a far better player than Montana, got much less publicity. Miami also seems a strange place to build an empire - it's not an entertainment capital like LA, it's not a business capital like New York. Miami winning the championship a few years ago was a forgettable series. I know that this is LeBron's decision, but it's (and I've stole this analogy from someone else and forget whom) like being a college professor in physics, and having a prize student who has the potential to do great things, and see them willingly choose a boring middle management job where they send out TPS reports all day.
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Jul 9, 2010 12:43:33 GMT -5
Post by the_way on Jul 9, 2010 12:43:33 GMT -5
Lebron made the best decision basket-ball wise.
He realizes he can't win a Championship as the alpha-dog, the man of a team.
If he did, he would have went to Chicago.
Going to Miami, Lebron can now be the player he was destined to be...the upgraded version of Scottie Pippen.
Lebron is not like Magic Johnson. He is a bulkier version of Pippen, imo. He can pass, run the floor with great athleticism and finish on the fastbreak, help facilitate but not run an offense, and do all the little things to help the alpha-dog on his team shine brightest.
Lebron can do this with Wade. Wade is the man in Miami. Quite frankly, I think Wade is just as good as Kobe. Matter of fact, if Wade doesn't hurt his ribs against the Pistons, he may have 2 rings and not 1 already.
with Lebron on board, Wade can really take off.
Now do they go to the Finals next year? NO.
Teams are won with great players AND great role players AND defense.
Thats what the Celitics were these past 3 years. They and the 3 stars in KG, Allen, and Pierce. But they also had the emerging Rondo, good supportive role players too. And that team made committment to defense across the board that was impressive. They were a special group and a great blend of players.
I'm not sure the Heat can work up a squad comparable to that in a few months.
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